If your looking for a good read. Malthus' essay on the principles of population as it affect the future improvement of society with remarks on the speculations of Mr. Godwin Mr. Condorcet, and other writers.
lol in short. Malthus' essay on the principles of population.. i just enjoy writing the whole thing.
[url]http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/malthus/malthus.0.html[/url]
there it is.. if you dont want to buy it in book form

Who are you?
Malthus?

excuse me?
oh in reference to my song.. heh

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger;13463168]In other words you need to take a typical middle/high school English class[/QUOTE]
lol american literature

lol reading

Ugh...talk about suck...immediately after finishing my last poem, an idea for another sparked inside my head...but since that first/second day of messin with it I've not touched it...what a joke..

i need to find more time to write. i wrote out an entire plan (free writing) for a poem; metaphors/language/tone, everything. now i just have to write it.

i copied and pasted a crit earlier and only made a few changes. people really should read the guide before they post.

i have a sore heart. ouch.

I've written a lot but it's mostly garbage.

Aigh, informal help not in the form of a thread.

I have no idea where this is going, it may even be finished, I just started this five-minutes ago and let myself fly and made each and every line seven syllables, but I don't know if it's nonsense, or not.

Sifting through broken valleys
Bitterness runs off the tongue
Racing along a dream of
Facing all that ruins the
Same game face that courses through

Veins take up root; cement in
Soil kicks up and leaves this plane
Taking with it innocence
Of broken and scarred body

Hurting the ones who only
Cared for wherever we were
They lie scattered, nearly bare
Making paper planes to throw
Fitting them with pilots sparred

Now we glade across the ice
Like small tambourines dying
A sound so naked to ears
We share same catastrophes

its much about basically nothing... but, the lines dont seem to make sentences at all.. just FRAGments

It's a little bit inconsistent, and it shows you had no theme in the beginning, since you started with a quite complex theme, a complex scenery, which I find to be quite good, and uh then it's kinda hindered and some good snapshots come here and there.

You need focus.

I read it twice and I still don't know what it means.

I hate being an idiot. :upset:

:( You're not an idiot, I don't know what it means either. I just typed.

[quote=Storm In A Teacup]
Sifting through broken valleys
Bitterness runs off the tongue
Racing along a dream of
Facing all that ruins the
Same game face that courses through[/quote]

Nice oral sex scene there.

......it wasnt oral sex im sure...

[QUOTE=SixStringKing;13472391]......it wasnt oral sex im sure...[/QUOTE]

'tis a joke me friend..

I feel like Bukowski tonight.

He's a pretty good guy.

[QUOTE=Storm In A Teacup;13472240]:( You're not an idiot, I don't know what it means either. I just typed.[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly when I read it.

I just had the image of me pooping until I reached the sky.

are you done?

Probably he isn't.

how can you write without a central conceit?

without premise its just a group of epiphets....

its called free writing

no its not

free writing is something else entirely

You've still got a theme for free writing...for example:

Read the roses, and the way the say:
"Let's drown in crimson glory."
Tear the flower, leave the stem
and the bloodied thorns, peircing
Skin and heart in an effort at being romantic.

Slowly, crimson fades to pink, to black.
Slowly, the petals fall to the floor -
And Only the bloodied thorns remain

Has a theme, but it's still pretty much just free verse. (by the way, I wrote this a few weeks ago, but didnt bother to post it because I feel it's kind of substandard and Im still trying to edit it to the correct quality.)

actaully free writing is just writing what comes to mind.. what you put is free verse.. of he wrote that just as it came to mind without really thinking,.. then it is free writing...
i win

Go read some free verse, usually it's about a scene around the poet, or an issue that's close to them, and THEN they just write whatever comes into their head. But meh, maybe you read different free verse, or something obscure like that.

you're actually both kind of wrong.

free verse is a form of structure, nothing to do with free writing. it forgoes classical ideas of structured verse, for example a sonnet having 14 lines of strict iambic pentameter, in favour of a free wheeling approach to lines/verses/general form. it became popular during the early twentieth century, championed by t s eliot, the beat poets and adrienne rich.

free writing is often a means to an end; a method of renewing interest and ideas, though sometimes used for therapeutic purposes. it entails forgoing conscious thought, allowing the pen/your hand to write, without any thought as to what you are writing. the moment you break from this, and start correcting/applying structure or modifying it in any way, you are no longer free-writing.