[QUOTE=Werny]Back in the days of vinyl, there was two kinds of records. There were EPs, which could hold about 30 minutes of material, and LPs, which could hold up to 80. These days, people still use those terms. If a CD is under 30 minutes, it's called an EP, if it's longer (up to 80) it's considered a LP. It's nothing to do with the production, it's just another way of paying homage to the days of vinyl.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for clearing it up. I didnt know why they were given such terms, but i knew what both meant in terms of play length

Thank you for clearing that up Werny.

I totally agree with Rounder about dynamics in metal. Everything is relative in music:"heavy" can only be heavy in relation to something else.

that's a great way of explaining.
I find a lot of doom metal heavier, than supposed 'heavy'metal

No worries fellas.

Meshuggah do OCCASIONALLY use that kind of slow/heavy dynamic. On the last song on Chaosphere, there's about 10 minutes of some kind of really quiet sound (can't remember right now) and then RAAAAAAAGH a friggin psycho scream and bashing of instruments.

I have Blackwater Park, and I love how heavy the acoustics make their music.

I have come to renounce my love for Tool. I can listen to all fo Tools albums and never be bored of them. I start off Everyday with Lateralus, while waiting for the bus. That album is purely indescribable. The band are pure genius'. The way they transition from one riff to another, the transitions between the slow and fast. Everythign that they do i love. You could say that i'm obsessed, and you'd probably be right.

[QUOTE=One Groovin Clown]I have come to renounce my love for Tool. I can listen to all fo Tools albums and never be bored of them. I start off Everyday with Lateralus, while waiting for the bus. That album is purely indescribable. The band are pure genius'. The way they transition from one riff to another, the transitions between the slow and fast. Everythign that they do i love. You could say that i'm obsessed, and you'd probably be right.[/QUOTE]

If listening to them everyday is being obsessed, I would venture to say that everyone here is on the same boat as you. ;)

I don't consider myself complete unless I've listened to Schism, Reflection, Parabola, Lateralus and Ticks & Leeches each day.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]If listening to them everyday is being obsessed, I would venture to say that everyone here is on the same boat as you. ;)[/QUOTE]

I had gone two weeks till today without listening to any. Now im putting a personal greatest hits on my mp3 player.

There's an interesting thought to ponder over, what would go on a greatest hits album so far....

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I had gone two weeks till today without listening to any. Now im putting a personal greatest hits on my mp3 player.

There's an interesting thought to ponder over, what would go on a greatest hits album so far....[/QUOTE]

Correction: Everyone with... iTunes?

Greatest Hits...

Hush
Prison Sex
Sober
Stinkfist
Ænema
Mantra
Schism
Parabol
Parabola

Considering they were the only songs released as singles.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]There's an interesting thought to ponder over, what would go on a greatest hits album so far....[/QUOTE]

Tool has had hits? Haha.

I think releasing a greatest hits is a weird concept for Tool as they're not that kind of band. If their record company(ies) did, then the singles would go on from each release.

[QUOTE=Werny]Greatest Hits...

Hush
Prison Sex
Sober
Stinkfist
Ænema
Mantra
Schism
Parabol
Parabola

Considering they were the only songs released as singles.[/QUOTE]

Careful there. They were released as videos, never singles. To my knowledge, Tool have never released a single (not sure in the States, but in the UK, people still make a fuss over single releases, and its seen to some to be selling out).

However, the number of songs they released to radio is quite large

They've had singles, that's the closest they ever came to that type of concept. But yeah, with the exception of a few songs, all of their songs are Greatest Hits material in my eyes.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Tool has had hits? Haha.

I think releasing a greatest hits is a weird concept for Tool as they're not that kind of band. If their record company(ies) did, then the singles would go on from each release.[/QUOTE]

Im not saying it would ever happen, I cant see the band doing something like that, unless they re recorded every song, and added something new. Its against their mentallity to re release songs. But im saying, as the one full length CD, what would/should be on it?

Here's something else I've been wondering...

Does anyone here have any singles? If so, what is on them?

*EDIT* whoops... guess that question's null and void now.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Careful there. They were released as videos, never singles. To my knowledge, Tool have never released a single (not sure in the States, but in the UK, people still make a fuss over single releases, and its seen to some to be selling out).

However, the number of songs they released to radio is quite large[/QUOTE]

We have a new DJ in Boston who played some Tool songs on the radio that I'd never expect: such as H. and 46 & 2.

This is kind of off topic, but I've heard a lot of Sober lately, even on the lighter alt stations. I'm probably wrong, but I'm thinking that's further proof of a Tool release coming pretty soon ( I know they're in the process, but I'm thinking SOON).

Yea, on our radio station in Tampa, they play a lot of Tool. I hear a lot of H. and 46&2. Also hear Sober, Prison Sex, Aenima, Stinkfist, Schism, and I even think I heard Pu**** before.

I think it'd have to be a "best of" because they've only had about 3 hits.

Hush
Part of Me
Intolerance
Prison Sex
Sober
Flood
Stinkfist
Eulogy
H.
Ænema
Third Eye [live]
The Grudge
Schism
Parabol
Parabola
Lateralus

Thoughts?

There's a radio station in London that I used to be able to pick up in my area, with a DJ who was in love with tool. He made sure in one week, he played the entire tool back catalogue (minus filler and debatable filler/song).

But recently, MTV2 here ahs started playing a lot more Tool videos. We even (finally) got the APC 'Passive' video. however, its probably just coincidence, as i've never known a band to be played more just because unofficially the album is soon. Its when an announcement is made that they go nuts

[QUOTE=Werny]I think it'd have to be a "best of" because they've only had about 3 hits.

Hush
Part of Me
[B]Intolerance[/B]
Prison Sex
Sober
[B]Flood[/B]
Stinkfist
Eulogy
H.
Ænema
Third Eye [live]
The Grudge
Schism
Parabol
Parabola
Lateralus

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Bold are my only debatables. And when I said hits, I didnt mean chart topping really. The term greatest hits is deceiving. I should have said 'Best of...'

I'd have to agree, I think that 4 degrees would have a better chance than Intolerance. And Flood wouldn't have a prayer.

Although Flood and Intolerance weren't popular with the public, fans generally consider them absolutely brilliant, especially Intolerance. I myself don't enjoy Flood (apart from the thundering beginning) but it's from what I've gathered.

Intolerance was bad@ss, no doubt.

Anyone else think that the beginning of Jimmy sounds a lot better when Intermission is played before it? Just because of the light to heavy crescendo?

Yeah, sounds interesting. I guess I just like light to heavy.

4 Degrees wouldn't go on there because it's never talked about amongst fans. Very underrated.

Another question; why are Crawl Away, Swamp Song and Undertow ALWAYS forgotten? I think they're the best songs on Undertow, but no one has ever talked about them!

Crawl Away has an awesome introduction with Adam's opening riff, but after that it just sounds like the rest. The reason why I mention 4* is that it sounds like a type of song that would go on a Greatest Hits album. It's not very complex or hard to follow. I'm not saying it's bad or that it's good to not be complex, but it's just a Greatest Hits type.

[QUOTE=Werny]4 Degrees wouldn't go on there because it's never talked about amongst fans. Very underrated.

Another question; why are Crawl Away, Swamp Song and Undertow ALWAYS forgotten? I think they're the best songs on Undertow, but no one has ever talked about them![/QUOTE]

4 Degrees is one of the most talked about songs in this thread

/thinks back to the days of me and deadohiosky9 learning it

Undertow is a classic off that album. Swamp Song and Crawl Away are good, but they lack the hooks.

I guess 4 Degrees would be on a greatest hits. It's kind of an embodiment of Tool (eastern, about realising mankind's full potential).