[QUOTE=scoot_14]If some of their songs with horrible lyrics were instrumental AND contained an orchestra they would be the ultimate band.[/QUOTE]

Janne [B]IS[/B] the orchestra. In Everytime I Die, it sounds like there is an orchestra playing behind the guitars, but it's Janne.

Janne is truly amazing. He's often overshadowed by Alexi, which is too bad, because he's insanely talented. I'm ashamed to say I've never heard any Warmen. That guy can go from an orchestral feel to very atmospheric to insane soloing at the drop of a hat. Sometimes it's hard to believe it's just one guy with a keyboard.

Yes, I think so too. He is extremely talented. I've been looking for a place to listen to some Warmen, but I couldn't find any. I'm going to keep looking though.

Here is Dimmu Borgir's complete discography of full-length albums with a brief description of each.

[B][I]For All Tid (1994)[/I][/B]

With their debut album, Dimmu played a style of melodic yet true black metal. The music was highly melodic and atmospheric with many memorable moments, while pertaining to an unpolished (and occasionally sloppy) sound common to black metal. Much of the sound is based upon a melodic ambience with the instruments and shrieked vocals used as a heavy support. This decision creates somewhat of a melancholic and depressing brand of black metal. This album brings the bear essentials of the sound they have created their entire career, traces of which are still easily heard in their music even today.

[B][I]Stormblåst (1996)[/I][/B]

The second time around, they seem to have matured as songwriters. The music is in the same vein as their first album but the instrumental work is much cleaner. The songs are more memorable then ever and more elements were incorprated into their music. Still, the music is melodic and atmospheric metal with the same harsh production. This is generally considered their best album, as it features the most refined sound of what they intrended to create, as well as featuring the now-controversial [I]Sorgens Kammer[/I]. Piano was used more often to accent that familar ambience, which made the album slightly more symphonic and melodic and less somber then [I]For All Tid[/I].

[B][I]Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (1997)[/I][/B]

This is where their major change began. For lack of a better description, this album sounds like [I]Stormblåst[/I] raping [I]Dusk & Her Embrace[/I]. The music is as melodic as ever, but is accompanied by many new features. They took advantage of their larger label and used crystal clear production, which truly allows for every aspect of their sound to blend as they intended. The music, while still incredibly melodic, favors synth effects as the main focus creating a very dark and unusual atmosphere. The songs are generally slower and less harsh musically while still achieving a very surreal metal feel. This is probably my favorite Dimmu Borgir album.

[B][I]Spiritual Black Dimensions (1999)[/I][/B]

Furthering the transition of their music, Dimmu Borgir became more extreme then ever. This album has the fastest and heaviest songs they had written up to this point. While the music still possesses the strong synth effects of [I]Enthrone Darkness Triumphant[/I], the drums and guitars are all played with more intensity then in the past. Shagrath adopted a deeper scream which suited the style, while operatic vocals were used throughout the record. The playing was a technical step forward, as all instruments were played using various techniques to come together for a sound more menacing then their other releases.

[B][I]Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia (2001)[/I][/B]

To date, this is the heaviest Dimmu Borgir album, even moreso than [I]Spiritual Black Dimensions[/I]. This album was subject to a rather major line-up change after the last album. Their drummer, guitarist, and bassist were all replaced by members who became fairly well-known for their future work in Dimmu. Nick Barker took over as drummer, Galder (see top 10 most ridiculous black metal pics) as guitarist, and the legendary Vortex as bassist and backing vocalist. As a result, their modern sound finally took form. A 13-piece strings orchestra from Gothenburg was used along with more clean vocals than before, making for virtually a whole new band compared to [I]For All Tid[/I].

[B][I]Death Cult Armageddon (2003)[/I][/B]

Easily the most popular of all Dimmu Borgir albums, the band went to a full-on extreme and symphonic approach with this. Utilizing a complete 48-piece orchestra from Prague, [I]Death Cult Armageddon[/I] sounds almost like a symphony from hell at times. The writing is arguably the most original and memorable since [I]Enthrone Darkness Triumphant[/I]. Riffs are heavy, yet pertaining to a constant melody. The orchestra gives the entire album an epic feel. To top it off, they had Abbath from Immortal to aid with vocal duties. Using every tool available to them, Dimmu truly put out a volitile album after all of their preseverence.

[B][I]Stormblåst 2005 (2005)[/I][/B]

Just as you may have guessed, this is a 2005 remake of the classic [I]Stormblåst[/I]. Many were skeptical about this album. Some of the lyrics were changed, and it was unclear how the newer production would effect a black metal album like this. Fortunately for them, they got it right. This is my favorite album alongside [I]Enthrone[/I]. This new 2005 release is purely symphonic black metal - surely gaining the legendary Hellhammer as a drummer could not lead to a letdown. The album features the old music refined to an incredible atmospheric level with every trait coming in clearly and forcefully. Due to legal reasons, the song [I]Sorgens Kammer[/I] was left off, to be replaced by [I]Sorgens Kammer - Dell II[/I], which replaced a piano piece with a ravaging black metal song. With plenty of new and revamped material, this is basically a brand new experience.

[QUOTE=scoot_14]If some of their songs with horrible lyrics were instrumental AND contained an orchestra they would be the ultimate band.[/QUOTE]
The lyrics are power metal influenced. You either like them or don't.

Also, i'll upload some Warmen sometime.

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Yes, I think so too. He is extremely talented. I've been looking for a place to listen to some Warmen, but I couldn't find any. I'm going to keep looking though.[/QUOTE]
I'll upload some. I have the Beyond Abilities CD.

[url]http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BF4LPGBVJBB02FW9H2P802X4M[/url]

The title track from beyond abilities.

I looked on their website and I think that Janne is as talented as Alexi or even more talented.

Does Janne write all the songs in Warmen? It sounds like Stratovarius with way too many keyboard solos, and I think Alexi certainly surpasses him in songwriting, but as far as technical skill goes they are both pretty good.

Yeah, Alexi is probably more talented overall.

Also, you can't have too many keyboard solos.

[QUOTE=powerchord rock]I agree, Some of their lyrics are really [SIZE=2]s[/SIZE]hitty[/QUOTE]

geez, you newb, what r u talkin 'bout mann

"...I swear this mutha fuking ****ts hard to the core."

Woahhhhh that's so overpowering!!!! :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=extreme_191]geez, you newb, what r u talkin 'bout mann
[/QUOTE]

Hey, leave powerchord alone... :lol: ...and learn how to spell.

I have a question, is this the official Children of Bodom thread? If so, are we making a cover band?

It's not official because the mod's aren't going to make another official thread. But it is the largest, so it's considered the official.

So are we making a cover band?

Hmmm. A possibility.

(I love the avatar by the way) I don't know, I heard something about each official thread making a cover band for a contest, and I can kinda play some Children of Bodom stuff, so I figured I'd check it out.

One of my creations. My other one is with that ****ed up little paperclip from MS Word.

Alexi shreds like Vishnu, so it's gonna be hella hard to copy him. For vocals, a nice mucus-garbled voice will sound perfect.

I'd love to play rythym guitar for a cover band, I've got a podxt so I'm all set for recording. I'm not quite good enough to play lead, but I have a few Bodom solos under my belt. Some of the leads are way too tough for me tho.

Hmm I just looked at the track listing for the new Children of Bodom cd, Are You Dead Yet? It sounds like they still are going the HCDR way, a big letdown in my books. Although a decent album, it seems much thrashier, almost a metalcore sound because of the "we hate you" attitude and the lower sound. Just judging by the song names they still seem like they are making "pissed off" music as opposed to their older cds which were all about cool melodies. I'm hoping they actually incorporate some kind of classical sound like in their first 3 cds, and they stop playing heavier hcdr type stuff. But judging from the song titles, it's another HCDR, and the Trashed, Lost, & Strungout EP didn't make me think otherwise.

I'm not expecting them to ever make another FTR. I think we better just get used to the newer sound. Personally, I love both styles. I have a "driving" compilation CD I made that has an old and new song every other track. It's like a best of both worlds, and I love both.

[QUOTE=TSASI] They are the greatest band around IMO.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I'm attempting Kissing the Shadows on lead.

My hands will be smoking craters when I'm done.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]Hmm I just looked at the track listing for the new Children of Bodom cd, Are You Dead Yet? It sounds like they still are going the HCDR way, a big letdown in my books. Although a decent album, it seems much thrashier, almost a metalcore sound because of the "we hate you" attitude and the lower sound. Just judging by the song names they still seem like they are making "pissed off" music as opposed to their older cds which were all about cool melodies. I'm hoping they actually incorporate some kind of classical sound like in their first 3 cds, and they stop playing heavier hcdr type stuff. But judging from the song titles, it's another HCDR, and the Trashed, Lost, & Strungout EP didn't make me think otherwise.[/QUOTE]

I read this same post over at MA, is that you? :eek:

yeah it is me

Thought so. :)

The forum their is way too slow, but as far as the site goes it should be regarded as a religious book. I say the name changes to the Metal Bible intead of encyclopedia.

[QUOTE=daven]:lol:[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:

I hate fags like you.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]Hmm I just looked at the track listing for the new Children of Bodom cd, Are You Dead Yet? It sounds like they still are going the HCDR way, a big letdown in my books. Although a decent album, it seems much thrashier, almost a metalcore sound because of the "we hate you" attitude and the lower sound. Just judging by the song names they still seem like they are making "pissed off" music as opposed to their older cds which were all about cool melodies. I'm hoping they actually incorporate some kind of classical sound like in their first 3 cds, and they stop playing heavier hcdr type stuff. But judging from the song titles, it's another HCDR, and the Trashed, Lost, & Strungout EP didn't make me think otherwise.[/QUOTE]
I don't know about the classical sound but I did hear they were going to have more Industrial elements on AYDY.

I didn't say they were gonna, I just wish they would incorporate a classical sound again.

from listening to haterbreeder then hatecrew, i hope they keep going in the way of better vocals, the vocals on hatecrew are much better than haterbreeder

I heard that the name was inspired by a murder, is that right?

Lake Bodom murder, yep.

[QUOTE=scoot_14]I'm attempting Kissing the Shadows on lead.

My hands will be smoking craters when I'm done.[/QUOTE]
I know the feeling. I can play every part of that song except the solos, which I haven't attempted yet. Playing CoB leads is a stretch for me since I haven't really been playing very long but the results are both painful in the hands yet rewarding to the ears.

As for Alexi's vocals, I hate the way they're going. He's changed to more of a conventional type of scream instead of his black metal type vocals. That kills me. I would love for Alexi to sound the way he did on Sometihng Wild again.

What's the tuning for Kissing the Shadows?

[QUOTE=scoot_14]What's the tuning for Kissing the Shadows?[/QUOTE]

D standard, if im not mistaken...thats DGCFAD, case you needed to know.

I personally liked the FTR styled music better than Hatecrew...o well. As long as it's still Bodom. :)

The leads in Kissing the Shadows are really tough if you ask me, I am a bit sloppy with then but I have it. I wouldn't attempt the solos, I'm a novice sweeper. The best sweeping I can do is Warheart and even that is a bit sloppy.

Most all CoB is played in standard D tuning, except lately they've been dabbling in drop C.

And FTR owns anything they've ever done afterward, although there is no such thing as bad Bodom.

Bed Of Razors is teh awesomeness

[QUOTE=Death to Pop-Punk]Most all CoB is played in standard D tuning, except lately they've been dabbling in drop C.

And FTR owns anything they've ever done afterward, although there is no such thing as bad Bodom.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't Sixpounder in drop C? It kinda sounds like it...

FTR owns EVERYTHING that Bodom did...that is their highest point.

I like Hatcrew best but Ive only listened to FTR a few times since I bought it.