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jpj 02-25-2005 07:51 AM

I'm not overly fond of Polyphonic Spree.

On another not, vote [url]www.jammys.com[/url] !

Jam2Me 02-25-2005 05:10 PM

Thanks JPJ I never even knew about that.

I picked up Thicker Than Water today, it's a really cool album, Jack and all them are so cool.

6Stringer 02-25-2005 05:48 PM

Great news for me! Gov't Mule is playing April 13th here, I'm excited for that. I've recently had a sudden love for a lot of the Band's material.

e p 02-25-2005 06:56 PM

Anyopne heard of The Slip?


If not, check them out.

nectarjam 02-25-2005 07:36 PM

Downloaded a phil lesh & Friends concert last night. Tis godly

jerm267 02-25-2005 08:52 PM

ive heard a few slip songs, they are my friends favorite band. They play alot of shows in my area, i think im gonna check one out. what are some good songs to hear?

Badmoon 02-26-2005 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=nectarjam]Downloaded a phil lesh & Friends concert last night. Tis godly[/QUOTE]

There recorded stuff is much more interesting, mainly because most of their live bootlegged stuff lacks there best line up.

Phil Lesh
John Molo
Rob Barraco
Jimmy Herring
Warren Haynes

Fantastic line up. Herring and Barraco make it for me.

jerm267 02-26-2005 12:19 PM

what do you guys think about dick's picks? what are good ones to get, i dont have much live dead.

nectarjam 02-26-2005 09:09 PM

everybody vote at [url]www.jammys.com[/url]. Make sure your favorite jam band wins

Jam2Me 02-27-2005 07:44 PM

:rolleyes: Look up a few posts...

I saw Mule last night, :thumb:

Words cannot describe.

e p 02-27-2005 07:51 PM

Guys Im making a list for me and some friends for upcoming purchases and what to check out and whatnot.

Could you all please name all the jam bands you know (I know--very broad) and enjoy. They can be popular or obscure--I dont care

Jam2Me 02-27-2005 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=e p]Guys Im making a list for me and some friends for upcoming purchases and what to check out and whatnot.

Could you all please name all the jam bands you know (I know--very broad) and enjoy. They can be popular or obscure--I dont care[/QUOTE]
Like..just list some good jam bands? Or ones with upcoming Cds?

jpj 02-27-2005 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=e p]Guys Im making a list for me and some friends for upcoming purchases and what to check out and whatnot.

Could you all please name all the jam bands you know (I know--very broad) and enjoy. They can be popular or obscure--I dont care[/QUOTE]
Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers, moe., Grateful Dead, Phish, String Cheese Incident, Widespread Panic, Addison Groove Project, Medeski Matin & Wood, Funk yMeters, Galactic, Keller Williams, Jack Johnson, Lefotver Salmon, Karl Denson's Tiny Universe, Yonder Mountain String Band, DMB, OAR.

Jam Bands off the top of my head.

Jam2Me 02-27-2005 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers, moe., Grateful Dead, Phish, String Cheese Incident, Widespread Panic, Addison Groove Project, Medeski Matin & Wood, Funk yMeters, Galactic, Keller Williams, Jack Johnson, Lefotver Salmon, Karl Denson's Tiny Universe, Yonder Mountain String Band, DMB, OAR.

Jam Bands off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]
Yeah look out for those, and check out Bela Fleck and the Flecktones I just got into them they're pure talent.

Badmoon 02-27-2005 09:17 PM

Funky Meters aren't really a Jam Band. And Jack Johnson and Karl Denson are arguable.

The Black Crowes
Grateful Dead
Little Feat
The Allman Brothers
The Aquarium Rescue Unit
Rusted Root
Col. Bruce Hampton
Vida Blue
Phish
Gov't Mule
Jazz is Dead
Project Z
Rat Dog
Phil Lesh & Friends
The Samples
Widespread Panic
The String Cheese Incident
Frogwings
Blues Traveler
Medeski, Martin & Wood
Antibalas
moe.
Big Head Todd & The Monsters
Robert Randolph & The Family Band
Galactic
Keller Williams
Leftover Salmon
North Mississippi Allstars
Bela Fleck & The Flecktones
Spin Doctors
Yonder Mountain String Band
The Other Ones
Disco Biscuits
The Big Wu
Ben Harper
Dave Matthews Band
New Earth Mud
Zen Tricksters

Arguable
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Drum & Tuba
Jack Johnson
OAR
Tortoise
Karl Denson
etc

Jam2Me 02-27-2005 09:32 PM

Jack Johnson live or on stuff like Thicker than Water and September Sessions pretty much label him as a jam band.

Badmoon 02-27-2005 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=Jam2Me]Jack Johnson live or on stuff like Thicker than Water and September Sessions pretty much label him as a jam band.[/QUOTE]

Yea, cause it is always about labels...

Hootie & The Blowfish were also labeled a Jam Band. ;)

Jam2Me 02-27-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Yea, cause it is always about labels...

Hootie & The Blowfish were also labeled a Jam Band. ;)[/QUOTE]
Wait what? :confused:

Jam2Me 02-27-2005 09:46 PM

Bah and:

Soundtribe Sector9
Garaj Mahal
Oysterhead
Umphrey's McGee

Badmoon 02-27-2005 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=Jam2Me]Wait what? :confused:[/QUOTE]

I'm saying labels don't really mean much, but believe what you want. Either way, Jack Johnson is at least close to a Jam artists.

ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond 02-28-2005 06:35 AM

awhile ago i mentioned blue floyd, the pink floyd blues cover band headed by the lateallen woody, with the guitarist from the black crowes and matt abts on drums. i just found out they are back with a new singer. If anyone is in the southeast Pa/ east jersey area you should come check them out at the Pink Floyd fest.

EDIT: berry oakley is in the band also

Badmoon 02-28-2005 07:22 AM

Black Crowes guitarists: Rich Robinson, Audley Freed, etc

And I strongly doubt Berry Oakley is in that band. It'd be a little hard for him.

KMidura 02-28-2005 07:46 AM

More Jam Bands
 
I'd also like to add a few bands to the list:

Greyspoke Variety
The Breakfast
Jerry Garcia Band
Derek Trucks Band
EkoostiK Hookah
Max Creek
Dark Star Orchestra
Tea Leaf Green

If a couple of these were mentioned earlier, my apologies but I don't recall them being named.

jpj 02-28-2005 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Black Crowes guitarists: Rich Robinson, Audley Freed, etc

And I strongly doubt Berry Oakley is in that band. It'd be a little hard for him.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he meant Berry Oakley Jr. :confused:

pegwedge 02-28-2005 02:41 PM

I saw moe. last night. They were frickin sweet. It was the first time I had seen them. Excellent show.

6Stringer 02-28-2005 04:12 PM

My friend got me hooked on Sound Tribe Sector 9, I don't really like them too well but they're ok. I perfer DJ Logic over them.

Jam2Me 02-28-2005 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]I'm saying labels don't really mean much, but believe what you want. Either way, Jack Johnson is at least close to a Jam artists.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I don't believe in labels either.

I saw Sountribe Sector 9 live at Toad's they put on a great live show.

KMidura 02-28-2005 05:15 PM

How did none of us mention Jimi Hendrix, the Grateful Dead or Phish?

Badmoon 02-28-2005 05:26 PM

1.) Jimi Hendrix is not a Jam Band.
2.) You're wrong. We mentioned both of those numerous amounts of times.

KMidura 02-28-2005 05:46 PM

how is Jimi Hendrix not a Jam Band? Have you ever listened to his live stuff? Do yourself a favor and check out some of the streamable shows on sugarmegs.org

As far as the GD/Phish thing, i was referring to the question posed on the previous page, and missed it in the wrap text, my apologies

Badmoon 02-28-2005 06:07 PM

[QUOTE]how is Jimi Hendrix not a Jam Band? Have you ever listened to his live stuff? Do yourself a favor and check out some of the streamable shows on sugarmegs.org[/QUOTE]

He is not. His recorded albums are not based upon jams, he sticks to one genre, and actually came before and died before the classification.

Badmoon 02-28-2005 06:12 PM

He also did not emphasize the importance of live shows.

And while we're at it, why isn't the Mahavishnu Orchestra not a Jam Band? How about Miles Davis, or Charles Mingus?

Because "Jam Band" is a genre, not a label for bands that simply "jam".

Broken Arrow 02-28-2005 06:19 PM

If a Jam Band meant a band that jammed could be one we would be over flowed with jam bands.

KMidura 02-28-2005 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]He also did not emphasize the importance of live shows.[/QUOTE]
1)if you listen to any studio recordings of major commercial jam bands they are severely lacking in jams
2)Bob Dylan refused to believe he was the voice of a generation or a prophet, but does that mean that he was right. Just because Jimi downlplayed the importance of live shows does not mean I have to.
3)How does leaving the scene before the term "Jam Band" was coined make the term any less pertinent when describing the music. Last I knew, one could describe an event with a word that was younger than the event. If we all were to take this stance, the history of ancient greece should not be discussed in our schools, it is a ridiculous premise.
4)The fact of the matter is that the number of live shows he performed far outnumbers the amount of studio albums he produced, thus how he is defined should be by his live performances. Many bands are very different live than they are in the studio, and I believe bands should be judged by their live performances, as that is the true meterstick for skill and the overall experience

KMidura 02-28-2005 06:24 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]If a Jam Band meant a band that jammed could be one we would be over flowed with jam bands.[/QUOTE]
I would define a Jam band as any band who dramatically extends the length of a song improvisationally, and in which the jam greatly adds to the overall effect of the song. How would you define it? I find it very difficult to do so

KMidura 02-28-2005 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]He also did not emphasize the importance of live shows.
Because "Jam Band" is a genre, not a label for bands that simply "jam".[/QUOTE]
I'd argue that the label describes the genre, how are we to describe bands if we can't label them as such. A band may have several different genres, and thus several different labels. The label simply refers back to the genre

Badmoon 02-28-2005 06:33 PM

[QUOTE]3)How does leaving the scene before the term "Jam Band" was coined make the term any less pertinent when describing the music. Last I knew, one could describe an event with a word that was younger than the event. If we all were to take this stance, the history of ancient greece should not be discussed in our schools, it is a ridiculous premise.[/QUOTE]

Well, there is most certainly a pattern.

[QUOTE]I would define a Jam band as any band who dramatically extends the length of a song improvisationally, and in which the jam greatly adds to the overall effect of the song. How would you define it? I find it very difficult to do so[/QUOTE]

A Jam Band does not just jam. They base themselves upon cult following, influence (Usually playing a variety of Root genres), and live events.

[QUOTE]The fact of the matter is that the number of live shows he performed far outnumbers the amount of studio albums he produced, thus how he is defined should be by his live performances. Many bands are very different live than they are in the studio, and I believe bands should be judged by their live performances, as that is the true meterstick for skill and the overall experience[/QUOTE]

Almost every band's live shows out number their albums, but that does not mean they put more work into there live shows, live for their live shows and without them would be nothing.

Jimi Hendrix could easily be classified as Album Rock for a reason.

[QUOTE]I'd argue that the label describes the genre, how are we to describe bands if we can't label them as such. A band may have several different genres, and thus several different labels. The label simply refers back to the genre[/QUOTE]

Miles Davis jams, but he and his band are not a Jam Band. They may play metal guitarists, but they are not a Metal band. Miles Davis is a Jazz artists who dabbles in improvisation, but does not contain the characteristics of a Jam Band.

KMidura 02-28-2005 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=Badmoon]

And while we're at it, why isn't the Mahavishnu Orchestra not a Jam Band? How about Miles Davis, or Charles Mingus?

[/QUOTE]
of these bands genre's, I must plead ignorance, as the only one I have listened to is Miles Davis, and that listening has been limited. If you could link me to any of their live shows I'd be more than happy to give them a listen sometime later and respond to this question, but as of this time I have not listened to any of them enough to be able make a fair judgement

Badmoon 02-28-2005 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=KMidura]of these bands genre's, I must plead ignorance, as the only one I have listened to is Miles Davis, and that listening has been limited. If you could link me to any of their live shows I'd be more than happy to give them a listen sometime later and respond to this question, but as of this time I have not listened to any of them enough to be able make a fair judgement[/QUOTE]

Here they are each a Jam Band/Artist who improvises. I have no links to give you, but they play Jazz.

Another example of a genre that has a name that doesn't tell all you need to know, Stoner Rock.

Bands like the Grateful Dead and The Velvet Underground are not Stoner Rock bands. You may listen to them while stoner, but they do not fit the description of a Stoner Rock band like groups like Kyuss do.

Broken Arrow 02-28-2005 06:40 PM

Jimi was pretty big live wasn't he?

Like he owned Woodstock, did well at Monteray and play alot of other shows. I have Jimi Plays Berekly and its awesome but I still wouldn't count him as a Jam Band.

Although -Voodoo Chile is a friggin' sweet jam


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