[QUOTE=ElKapitan]quick question:
who has rights to band names if u split up? i've heard very mixed things about it
not that i really need to know, i'm just curious[/QUOTE]

its a joint asset. you can pay for it, you can hold onto it if a member is fired or quits, but if there's a full split its best to drop it, and agree this with the others.

its just that i've seen about 3 touring versions of the same band, all sporting at least one member, and thought it slightly odd

please, im hyperventilating! i need a big issue! pppplllllleeeeeeaaaaaasssssssseeeeee

go have a run outside. its a nice day (here)

[QUOTE=airborne50caliber]go have a run outside. its a nice day (here)[/QUOTE]

same here.

I just decided that my room is a permanent studio, divided it into two, and placed all my quipment in a wall facing the rest of the room. proper studio floor now. but no space for anything else.

what wall coverings do u use?

wall as in a barrier. not a proper wall. but i put foam and sheet on my walls

oh do some sort of issue thing on what to do about troublesome band members who don't turn up and stuff

[QUOTE=oogaboogabooga]oh do some sort of issue thing on what to do about troublesome band members who don't turn up and stuff[/QUOTE]

so much for optimism.

they get less recording time and still have to pay :lol:

so when/ what is the next issue?

When you are talking to someone, I'm just wondering.

What is a "support" band? And then what is a "headliner" band?

headliner band headlines a tour, show, or festival. They are the main act, play last, and play the biggest setlist. Support bands play small slots before them and are sometimes not mentioned on the ticket.

[QUOTE=LivingDeadBoy]When you are talking to someone, I'm just wondering.

What is a "support" band? And then what is a "headliner" band?[/QUOTE]

A headliner band is the main band, last on, longest set.
The support bands are all the bands that go on before them.

The lingo for a line up is as follows.

First Band of the night = Openers
Second Band = Support
Third Band = Main Support
Final Band = Headliners.

The main support is the support band on just before the headliners.

Thanks a lot guys!

.. and usually the main support is the only one that ends up featuring on the ticket.

[QUOTE=airborne50caliber].. and usually the main support is the only one that ends up featuring on the ticket.[/QUOTE]

although the support are usually named on flyers.

I have an intresting dilemma

Thought I would share it with you guys, maybe you could give me some advice

A month ago I wasn't in any, now I'm in 3 bands

I will list the bands in order of priority

[B]Band 1[/B]

This is the one where I write all the music, record everything except vocals and if we ever gig, I'd play guitar

My friend sings on it, she has an awesome voice

It is our music, our songs, we love doing it

[B]Band 2[/B]

The first band I joined, I drum, we play metal-ish rock type stuff, 2 singers / guitarists and a bassist :) It's working out pretty grand

I'm enjoying the ride and learning to drum better than ever

[B]Band 3[/B]

The second band I joined...they want to do a lot of covers :( radiohead, QOTSA etc, music that I AM into....but I don't want to cover

I'm thinking of leaving soon


Just thought I'd share my experiences :( being in a load of bands is more stressful than good

2 is enough me thinks

:thumb:

ditch the 3rd. the 1st probably isn't putting too much strain on your time (and doesn't soud too stressful) and if the 2nd is making you a better player, thats great. but if band 3 are fairly new, they're unlikely to be full on writing yet.

Ditch the 3rd band.

definitely. I would consider ditching the second also to dedicate more time to band 1, but since its helping your playing, maybe its worth keeping.

/realises th guy didn't ask for help, he just told us what was goin on.

[QUOTE=airborne50caliber]definitely. I would consider ditching the second also to dedicate more time to band 1, but since its helping your playing, maybe its worth keeping.

/realises th guy didn't ask for help, he just told us what was goin on.[/QUOTE]

he wouldn't have postred it if he didn't want opinions.

Heh thanks guys!! :) Yeah I wanted to hear your opinions on it

Band 2 is cool, whenever they say we're practising I go and practise, band 1 is whenever I feel like it :p

Like this weekend I've been programming drums, so however long it takes, then when I feel like it' I'll do the guitars and then give it to my singer to work her magic on

Band 3 is 'pffft'

I'll probably tell them soon

[B]Help with getting CD Cover/Layout Design, Logo Design, Merch Design, etc.[/B]

For unsigned bands it is often hard to find a designer to create quality designs for a decent price. Bands are often overcharged for crappy designs, or just get plain crappy designs for free or cheap. You do not want a poorly done CD layout, logo, flyer, etc. It is not appealing to the eye and people are less likely to look into your music. You also do not want to pay $275 for a band logo - no matter how good looking it is.

So here I have tips for getting a quality product for a price that will not take away from your band's budget:
1) If a commission artist (artist who does art for money) has a flashy website that looks incredible, chances are it is a person who uses commission art as a source of income. Therefore, they need to make a living off of you, which often leads to overcharging. Do not get overcharged, try to negotiate a price! Artists NEED your business, they will negotiate for a reasonable price!

2) Often artists will have their prices upfront. They will make the prices extra high to make their art seem worth the price. Don't fall for this. Give a good look at their portfolio and make sure that the art fits your band's style and is quality work.

3) ONLINE ART COMMUNITIES! Here you will find thousands upon thousands of artists posting their work to get their name out. Rather than an artist putting their stuff upfront, here you will have to do some digging to find the right person. A major online art community is Deviant Art (link below). Be sure to join so that you can get in contact with artists. Almost all art communities are absolutely free to join. Now that you have an account, seek artists that are creating commission art that fits your needs. If their art appeals to you, look for their email address. Try giving good comments on their artwork if possible. When you get their email address, email them and include the following:

- Your name (first name will suffice)
- Your band's name and link to website, Purevolume page, Myspace page, etc.
- What you're looking for (band logo, CD layout, flier design, etc.)
- A general idea of what you want the art to look like (grungy, gory, simplistic, abstract, etc.)

Tell them to contact you if they're interested and say thank you. Be friendly and provide any other information you might think they would want. If the artist is interested ask for a few concepts. When the artist gets back to you with the concepts, show them to the band and discuss which you like best. Do not be afraid to ask for them to tweak something on one of the concepts. When you have decided on a design, negotiate a price. Be assertive and use common sense. Only pay a price that adheres to your budget.

[B]Online art communities:[/B]
[url]http://deviantart.com[/url]
[url]http://gfxartist.com[/url]
[url]http://graphic-forums.com[/url]

[B]Quality (not the cheapest) commission artists:[/B]
Derek Hess - [url]http://derekhess.com[/url]
Asterik Studio - [url]http://asterikstudio.com[/url]
Angryblue (Just Kamerer) - [url]http://angryblue.com[/url]
Discordant Art (Chad Lenjer) - [url]http://discordantart.com[/url]
Adam Stewart - [url]http://smellslikedark.com[/url]
Check out the links sections of these artists and you will find other great artists.

I hate to plug myself, but I can do logos, CD layouts, mucho cheapo:
[url]http://southguitar.deviantart.com[/url]

I hope this is helpful to some people. Feel free to ask questions here.

nice post. good post. nice post.

:lol:

is that the cover that black dahlia murder is actually gonna use for miasma?

is what the cover they're gonna use.

Oh, and BDM< rock. And so do As I lay dying

[QUOTE=devildriver421]is that the cover that black dahlia murder is actually gonna use for miasma?[/QUOTE]

No, I wish I could do some work for the Black Dahlia though..

**** i was gonna say i want you to mail me your autograph hahah. thatd be awesome to do stuff for them, they're like my favorite band. i cant wait for the new album to come out its supposed to be so heavy. anyway that art was really good

I agree - nice post, good art :thumb: