Do you know, if these companies like Steinberg only charged like £50 for Cubase instead of £500 or whatever, they'd actually be making more money, seen as more people would buy it.
Right now, I use Kristal Wave Audio to record, the I use Protools Free to mix and master, like guitars, I usually record the riff twice, and pan one left and one right, sounds so much better than when I used to have one guitar track in mono, urgh, awful:(

By the way, does anyone know where I can find this certain drum sample; a distorted kick drum, quite like Berzerker kick drums, I've looked all over, and the only sites I can find are like "Join up for only $10":(

[QUOTE=Vitriolic Rage]Do you know, if these companies like Steinberg only charged like £50 for Cubase instead of £500 or whatever, they'd actually be making more money, seen as more people would buy it.
Right now, I use Kristal Wave Audio to record, the I use Protools Free to mix and master, like guitars, I usually record the riff twice, and pan one left and one right, sounds so much better than when I used to have one guitar track in mono, urgh, awful:(

By the way, does anyone know where I can find this certain drum sample; a distorted kick drum, quite like Berzerker kick drums, I've looked all over, and the only sites I can find are like "Join up for only $10":([/QUOTE]

the software costs so much to develop, thats the thing

I've seen traction being advertized all over the place. Anyone have it?

I'm recording with my band at my school, because I found out we have a recording studio there, and I can record for free (This is a high school, I feel lucky- We have ProTools).

Anyway, I don't know if you've mentioned it, but fading can play a big part. By using the faders, you can give the recording sort of a live feel. We do different placements on the drums, so the hi hat sound like its coming from a different place than the floor tom. It's really cool, and adds a whole other dimension to the recording. So yeah, just thought I'd mention that.

cool

evil ernie, that recording quality is pretty good, got any tips..........you cant seriously be recording with a $15 mic.........coz thats a nice guitar sound

and how long did it take to make the drum sound, its so complex
well done anyways :)

Do any audio editing programs calculate the bpm of what you have recorded? Cause sometimes its hard to match up the rhythm on fruityloops with what I record.

this has been a huge help thanks for all the ideas guys

I was wondering what you thought of the Roland VS-2000 cd recording workstation. I am a newbie to recording and only have a basic knowledge of what needs to be done. I need something powerful and free standing, because our computer is a pos. I really think that the 2000 is a good piece of equipment and have had nothing but good experiences with Roland. What do you think or recommend otherwise?

EDIT - I am interested in recording our band when we jam and write stuff, possibly a demo if ever necessary. Not really recording other people or albums. :)

*Anyone with recording expertise HELP :lol:*

if you just want to record demos, unless you're fricken rich and have 2000 bucks just randomly out there to spend, I wouldn't do it. It didn't get so great reviews, and I think for demos, you only need a computer sound card. That's what my band's doin.

[QUOTE=larry_emder]evil ernie, that recording quality is pretty good, got any tips..........you cant seriously be recording with a $15 mic.........coz thats a nice guitar sound

and how long did it take to make the drum sound, its so complex
well done anyways :)[/QUOTE]

I assure you I used a 15$ Radio Shack microphone.

The drum on the Slayer track took me about 10 hours, so many fills in there...

Thanks for the comments.

[QUOTE=evil ernie]I assure you I used a 15$ Radio Shack microphone.

The drum on the Slayer track took me about 10 hours, so many fills in there...

Thanks for the comments.[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's amazing what you can do with the right experience even when using budget equipment.
Alot of people buy the industry standards, SM58's e.t.c., mic things up and then wonder why it doesn't sound that great, Often it's from lack of experience.
With cheaper equipment, you really have to be innovative to get the sound you want, and when you finally combine that with expensive mics, You get something utterly amazing.
Nice recording.

Creative labs USB soundblaster audigy2 external soundcard system... yes? No?

When you know what you're doing, you can get great sound with really inexpensive equipment. Check out the stuff I recorded at the URL below. Everything done before April 10 2004 was done using a plastic Radio Shack 33-3009 microphone that cost me about $20 a few years ago.

[url]http://www.sadbuttrue-band.com/media/songs.asp[/url]

I now have a Sennheiser e609 and a Shure SM58 for my mics, and my sound is even better, since I got so used to working with a cheap mic. Now, good sound comes easily.

[QUOTE=The Spliggity Splot]Creative labs USB soundblaster audigy2 external soundcard system... yes? No?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=The Spliggity Splot]Creative labs USB soundblaster audigy2 external soundcard system... yes? No?[/QUOTE]

It's ok, but you can do better. I'm assuming you want external because you have a laptop? If so, then the onboard card is usually adequate for playback. What you need is a good capture system. I would suggest the M-Audio Mobile USB Preamp. It's a 2 channel input system, powered by USB, with individual mic preamps on each channel. REcords at 16 bit 44.1 kHz, which is adequate for home recording.

tell me you guys, is a standard 600OHM mic ok to use into a mic input on a PC? Are XLR - small jack leads or adaptors common?

To use a regular XLR jack directly into your sound card, you'll need 2 things.

First, you'll need a line transformer to go from low to high impedence (which also converts 3 prong XLR into a 1/4 inch jack), and a 1/4 inch to 1/8 inch to get into the mic input on your sound card.

[QUOTE=theabstract]Fruity loops is really customisable, u just gotta spend time. I think u might be using The preset beats? Read the manual, once u know how to use it youll neverturn back!
Acid Pro is another sampling program.[/QUOTE]
ok speaking of fruity loops...I havent ANY MONEY!!! I am as poor as **** and maybe with your help i can be saved. I use a uber crappy Vibe G-10 Guitar Amp and A Samick Malibu guitar. So what i use for all my uber crappy recording...I plug my guitar in the amp...Then use a chord to plug my headphone hole from the amp into my computer and record using the sound recorder program...Is there any way with Fruity loops to not sound so crappy? Any sugesstions on screwing with guitars on Fruity loops? Ive got 3.0

theabstract, I would love to see some recording information on pianos!

I made a thread with this, but it can go here too:


It's purpose is to show that even with mediocre gear, with a little time and technology, you can record quality stuff. All I used on these was my Presonus TubePre preamp ($100) and my mic (some cheap Shure 12a)


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I was talking to my engineer friend, and I told him I need a new sound card. He told me that my Sound Blaster Live should be fine for recording some small demos at home. If I wanted to record more serious, then I should get one.

He then asked me why I thought I needed one. I told him I thought I needed one that had a lower noise level. He said, "The SB Live has a noise level of around 60 DB. That's fine for you". True enough, I thought, but why was I getting such noisy recordings when I used my acoustic guitar? My preamp!

You see, my preamp has a tube in it. When the gain and volume are put to high levels, a hissing is apparent. He told me to find a nice Noise Reduction program and that should solve my problems. I told him Cool Edit has one, but it ruins the tone.

The reason it ruins the tone, he said, is because it EQs the frequency that most noise is coming from. It lowers the volume, and thus causes you to lose the whole frequency. True enough.

He told me a good noise reducer will grab a sample of the noise, and mathematically remove that sample from the whole mix. It made sense, I guess. If you have a hiss in a recording, then you copy that, and remove it through the whole recording, you shouldn't really have anything to worry about.

I searched around and found a nice Noise Reduction plug-in for my software. "Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction 2.0". After installing it and looking for some other info on it, I decided to try it. Here is the result:


[url]http://eric.serverselect.net/noise-reduction.mp3[/url]

Works great, huh? It didn't change the tone at all. But I thought "maybe It didn't change the tone on my voice, but it would on an instrument." So I recorded a little acoustic guitar diddle to test it out. Here is the result:

[url]http://eric.serverselect.net/acoustic-guitars.mp3[/url]

Pretty good, eh? I like how that sounds. I can really crank the preamp now.

The purpose of this thread:

If you're interested in this plugin and/or recording, I can send you the plugin and all other things needed to run it. This is a great plugin and I highly suggest it. ;)

[QUOTE=witch doctor]theabstract, I would love to see some recording information on pianos![/QUOTE]

yeah i'll do that soon, i'm just kinda busy right now

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277601[/url]

meh, I* made a thread and I guess I could have just posted here.



*= lame

Hey is the printable version still floating around, can i get one of those?

just email me and i'll send it to ya, [email]fenderman3@hotmail.com[/email]

hey - a question that I guess belongs here...

I have an old JVC cassette deck from a pretty decent, if somewhat aging stack unit. Now, this deck has two mic inputs - stereo L+R - does anyone know whether I'd have to record both at once, or whether I'd be able to record one guitar first in the L channel, and the second in the R channel afterwards? Cheers.

i dont think youd be able to record one after the other

ok - I have another problem - I tested the recording, and the mic worked fine, although when I put a lead from the emulated line out/headphone socket into the same socket as i did the mic, I get a horribly distorted sound, even with my amp on clean and the recording level right down. You can *just* make out the chord changes, but only just - any possible reason for this?

[QUOTE=Moniker]I made a thread with this, but it can go here too:


It's purpose is to show that even with mediocre gear, with a little time and technology, you can record quality stuff. All I used on these was my Presonus TubePre preamp ($100) and my mic (some cheap Shure 12a)


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I was talking to my engineer friend, and I told him I need a new sound card. He told me that my Sound Blaster Live should be fine for recording some small demos at home. If I wanted to record more serious, then I should get one.

He then asked me why I thought I needed one. I told him I thought I needed one that had a lower noise level. He said, "The SB Live has a noise level of around 60 DB. That's fine for you". True enough, I thought, but why was I getting such noisy recordings when I used my acoustic guitar? My preamp!

You see, my preamp has a tube in it. When the gain and volume are put to high levels, a hissing is apparent. He told me to find a nice Noise Reduction program and that should solve my problems. I told him Cool Edit has one, but it ruins the tone.

The reason it ruins the tone, he said, is because it EQs the frequency that most noise is coming from. It lowers the volume, and thus causes you to lose the whole frequency. True enough.

He told me a good noise reducer will grab a sample of the noise, and mathematically remove that sample from the whole mix. It made sense, I guess. If you have a hiss in a recording, then you copy that, and remove it through the whole recording, you shouldn't really have anything to worry about.

I searched around and found a nice Noise Reduction plug-in for my software. "Sonic Foundry Noise Reduction 2.0". After installing it and looking for some other info on it, I decided to try it. Here is the result:


[url]http://eric.serverselect.net/noise-reduction.mp3[/url]

Works great, huh? It didn't change the tone at all. But I thought "maybe It didn't change the tone on my voice, but it would on an instrument." So I recorded a little acoustic guitar diddle to test it out. Here is the result:

[url]http://eric.serverselect.net/acoustic-guitars.mp3[/url]

Pretty good, eh? I like how that sounds. I can really crank the preamp now.

The purpose of this thread:

If you're interested in this plugin and/or recording, I can send you the plugin and all other things needed to run it. This is a great plugin and I highly suggest it. ;)[/QUOTE]

i got tha plug-in son, now i just need the serial number, or else it creates lil anoying blips in my recording to purposely get u to register..bastards
so thanx in advance, send em extra neccesities over, my email's [email]freedumb68@netscape.net[/email]

Sorry if this has already been answered but i didnt see it in here.
Would you be able to notice on a recording after its mixed down if you recorded the guitars with a v-amp rather than micing.

Thanks in advance