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Minidrummerdude16 05-29-2004 07:32 PM

Thanks!
 
I registered recently and you probably saved me from a thousand flamer posts from other users calling me a n00b lol.....Great list btw :thumb:

FatherKeeL 05-30-2004 08:32 AM

another "odd" catagory would be

"humpa metal" as finntroll dafine themselves...

ive ben reading for like 40 minutes now ... guess ill have to finish later...

Kreator 05-30-2004 09:12 AM

humpa metal is cool :cool:

_GanondorF_ 05-30-2004 09:34 AM

most people seem to describe finntroll as folk-metal

SliPknot2k9 05-30-2004 03:06 PM

good descriptions. black metal rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!

befukked 05-30-2004 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=Kreator]humpa metal is cool :cool:[/QUOTE]
It's hump[b]p[/b]a.

unknownleadfender 05-30-2004 10:35 PM

Awesome thread, dude; although my opinion is that any band (exept for the amazing genre-starters such as Sabbath) is always a mix of more than one genre. Certainly one genre sticks out, but anyway, good post against very annoying questions.

Kreator 05-31-2004 03:12 AM

[QUOTE=befukked]It's hump[b]p[/b]a.[/QUOTE]
i'm sorry :amaze:

black_sabbath634 05-31-2004 09:43 PM

what would u consider korn? im not a big fan, but im courious, most people would say that they are nu metal, but they sound very difrrent from those bands you posted under nu metal.

black_sabbath634 05-31-2004 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=Led Zepplein Hendix AC-DC ROCK]MEtal is good but it will never beat the Rock. AC-DC, Van Halan. hendrix, led zepplein they rocked the planet.

nivana is a reall good metal band[/QUOTE]
did u just say nirvana is a metal band?

Metallica3130 05-31-2004 10:53 PM

Sweet

befukked 06-01-2004 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=black_sabbath634]what would u consider korn? im not a big fan, but im courious, most people would say that they are nu metal, but they sound very difrrent from those bands you posted under nu metal.[/QUOTE]

That's because Korn are the ultimate nu-metal band, and they're so "heavy" compared to most other wonders of modern rock.

sLiPkNoT-verse-666 06-01-2004 08:01 AM

lol **** man just dropped my favorite band and 2 others i like with that nu metal comment......just for the note..non of them are linkinpark, i really can't stand them

PEST 06-01-2004 09:05 AM

@fatherKeel
Finntroll is defining themselves as "trollish howdown metal" or so, the style theire playing is Bm mixed with Humppa(Finnish Folk) :D
sorry if theire any faults in it my english isnt the best

DrPoopsangle 06-01-2004 09:37 AM

why dont you all stop bein stereotypical and let the only genres be band names, jesus..

TsukasaZero 06-01-2004 09:54 AM

Just had to say...

The 'Knot? Nu Metal?

IMO, no.
Their new stuff has some nu metal in it (Duality) but you can't call songs like "Surfacing" and "Get This" nu metal. I mean, the band recorded their latest album in a haunted house (Houdini Mansion)!

Kaden3 06-01-2004 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=TsukasaZero]Just had to say...

The 'Knot? Nu Metal?

IMO, no.
Their new stuff has some nu metal in it (Duality) but you can't call songs like "Surfacing" and "Get This" nu metal. I mean, the band recorded their latest album in a haunted house (Houdini Mansion)![/QUOTE]
Because recording their music in a "scary" place obviously changes the genre.

bassismylifecuziamaloser 06-01-2004 10:22 AM

it seems that while this list is well rounded, i would like to redefine old metallica as more of truly speed metal, not thrash, although it's hard to define the difference, i will do my best.
Speed involes the extremely fast, sometimes complex riffing charateristic of such songs as "Blackened" and "one". The guitar solo is usually less melodic and more technical than other genres of metal. The guitar solo typically ends the song.
Thrash is more simplistic in riffing than speed, but it still has the choppy riffage. The best example i can think of is Pantera's "Cowboys from Hell". This also shows the guitar solo to be more melodic and in general shorter than soeed, and is usally followed by a final chorus. Metallica that did this was "Battery" and "The Thing that Should Not Be"

befukked 06-01-2004 11:37 AM

[QUOTE=bassismylifecuziamaloser]it seems that while this list is well rounded, i would like to redefine old metallica as more of truly speed metal, not thrash, although it's hard to define the difference, i will do my best.
Speed involes the extremely fast, sometimes complex riffing charateristic of such songs as "Blackened" and "one". The guitar solo is usually less melodic and more technical than other genres of metal. The guitar solo typically ends the song.
Thrash is more simplistic in riffing than speed, but it still has the choppy riffage. The best example i can think of is Pantera's "Cowboys from Hell". This also shows the guitar solo to be more melodic and in general shorter than soeed, and is usally followed by a final chorus. Metallica that did this was "Battery" and "The Thing that Should Not Be"[/QUOTE]
That's bullsh*t, all of it. The tempo does not define whether something is speed or thrash. Speed metal riffs are simpler and more linear than thrash riffs - speed metal riffs are emphasized on bludgeon where the same note is being repeated continually. Thrash riffs are also emphasized on bludgeon, but there are variations in the length of the notes (it's the punk influence).

All those songs you mentioned are more thrash than speed, except I don't remember what "The Thing that Should Not Be" sounds like.

unknownleadfender 06-02-2004 07:22 AM

Sweet
 
[FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Awesome post, dude. Only prob, though: need an explanation of hardcore/metalcore. Hard for me to explain, but from what I gather from listening to bands like Haste/Atreyu/FATA, Hardcore is simply metal screaming with punk song structure and simplicity. More aggression than punk, as well.[/FONT]

drizzt_fighter 06-02-2004 11:57 AM

Aww who cares. Metal is metal, so let's all bang our heads and break our necks while doing it.Also break our back whilst moshing!!!!

horse 06-02-2004 12:11 PM

wheres the
hair metal
power metal
and glam metal at?

NickyHIMfan 06-02-2004 02:10 PM

What form of Metal (if any) is HIM?

Some people say Love Metal, but I dunno really.

BuddyBigsby 06-02-2004 07:16 PM

[QUOTE=unknownleadfender][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium]Awesome post, dude. Only prob, though: need an explanation of hardcore/metalcore. Hard for me to explain, but from what I gather from listening to bands like Haste/Atreyu/FATA, Hardcore is simply metal screaming with punk song structure and simplicity. More aggression than punk, as well.[/FONT][/QUOTE]

Read through the thread. I gave a very detailed explanation on the "-core"s.

IN FLAMES 37654 06-02-2004 08:20 PM

I just felt like saying that Meshuggah is the greatest and most talented metal band...no matter what "genre"

Kreator 06-03-2004 02:09 AM

[QUOTE=NickyHIMfan]What form of Metal (if any) is HIM?

Some people say Love Metal, but I dunno really.[/QUOTE]
him are gothic . love metal is the name of their last cd

NickyHIMfan 06-03-2004 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=Kreator]him are gothic . love metal is the name of their last cd[/QUOTE]
Arrrighty. Thanks :thumb:


Yeah, I know it's the name of their cd, but some folk on the net had said their actual music genre was 'Love Metal', and I also read that in an interview with Ville Valo one time too.

SlashinStar 06-04-2004 07:38 AM

Sweet although it could use a few more artists

nirvanaguitarist67 06-05-2004 08:23 PM

nice list bro

TemperamentalGoat 06-06-2004 04:35 PM

...
 
That's one hell of a great, comprehensive list, but what the hell is with everyone calling everything some form of METAL now?

[SIZE=5]whatever happened to, uh, rock, maybe?[/SIZE]

There are people citing stuff like Finger Eleven, Creed, and disgustingly Nickelback as Nu-Metal.

[B]That is not metal, or ANY form of "metal".[/B]

The problem with this particular genre is that no one knows what the hell defines something as "nu-metal". The thread starter got it pretty close, but it could have been more defined. I gagged when some kid said Nickelback was Nu-Metal. jesus.

Korn and Slipknot are obviously Nu-Metal, they championed and kick-started the genre along with Limp Bizkit. I don't see how you can realistically argue that they aren't "nu-metal". If you remove Slipknot from the category, you might as well completely dissolve the genre. Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park and Disturbed are all "Nu-Metal", they have the basic elements to fit into "Metal". Abrasive. Loud. Aggressive. Fast. Breakbeats and crunching vocals. Deftones is definitely part of the genre, and you can throw stuff like Drowning Pool in as well. Godsmack is Nu-Metal to me, but I'm not going to try to argue against it. Trapt and Smile Empty Soul border along the Nu-Metal lines, but really, you guys are completely missing another genre when trying to label music. Where's Hard Rock and Alternative Rock?

Creed, Nickelback, Closure, Default and Finger Eleven are Alt Rock. They are not in ANY WAY "metal". None of those bands sound ANYTHING like Korn. If you're going to label everything new as "nu-metal", then you might as well call nirvana or pearl jam nu-metal as they're closer to any of these bands than Korn are.

So Nu-Metal isn't every **** thing that came after the grunge movement, kids. I swear I'm going to stab anyone that steps up and starts calling Matchbox 20 "nu-metal". Nu-Metal has their own distinct sound. Nu-Metal may have spawned some of the crappiest music in history, but as with every genre there are a few gems. I hate how people think the term is synonymous with "crap" just because a few popular artists give it a bad rap.


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