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Jondur 02-02-2004 10:06 AM

[QUOTE=Rattlehead 502]Yes dave mustaine sayd that on an interview. He was a big fan of bathory and venom, both blackmetal bands. Dave also sayed that the song "good morning black friday" is some sort of thrash metal black metal mix. I'm not making this up.[/QUOTE]

Well Venom were the first thrash band so the influence there is obvious. Bathory didn't really make a huge impact on the US thrash bands but if Dave likes them I applaud his good taste!

Rattlehead 502 02-02-2004 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=LordDargon]Ontario Canada, and as I already explained about 10 pages back, it's spelt [I]ar[/I] not [I]ra[/I][/QUOTE] sorry, didn't knew that

Rattlehead 502 02-02-2004 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]Well Venom were the first thrash band so the influence there is obvious. Bathory didn't really make a huge impact on the US thrash bands but if Dave likes them I applaud his good taste![/QUOTE] hell yeah

Girl-Playing-Bass 02-02-2004 01:15 PM

[QUOTE=LordDargon]^^ I thought you said you were like 3 and your dad introduced you to Slayer.[/QUOTE]

Nah Ive been listening to it all my live you know, but being little I didnt really cared for it much.
At the age of 8 to 9 i started really enjoying it.
You know really listening all the albums.

LordDargon 02-02-2004 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=Bass Girl]Nah Ive been listening to it all my live you know, but being little I didnt really cared for it much.
At the age of 8 to 9 i started really enjoying it.
You know really listening all the albums.[/QUOTE]

That's crazy, I'd PAY to see an 8-year-old headbanging to Slayer :lol:

Girl-Playing-Bass 02-02-2004 01:19 PM

got it all on tape.. got it all on tape.. :P

LordDargon 02-02-2004 01:22 PM

what's your paypal account :lol:

TheUnavoidable 02-02-2004 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=Jondur]Well Venom were the first thrash band so the influence there is obvious. Bathory didn't really make a huge impact on the US thrash bands but if Dave likes them I applaud his good taste![/QUOTE]

Im pretty sure Motorhead started trash and Venom were the first black metal band.

LordDargon 02-02-2004 01:42 PM

^^ Wouldn't argue with jondur if I could help it

Toozey 02-02-2004 02:56 PM

I wouldn't argue with him either, especially when your wrong.

FrailandBedazzled1979 02-02-2004 04:31 PM

[QUOTE=Jondur]Controversial I know, but I think that technically Bostaph is better.[/QUOTE]

Lombardo never really did it for me, same style of drumming for every song...Paul Bostaph had alot more variety on his fills espically, such a shame he was on their worst three albums.

milano mosh 02-02-2004 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=TheUnavoidable]Im pretty sure Motorhead started trash and Venom were the first black metal band.[/QUOTE]

Motorhead were mor of a pre-t[B]H[/B]rash band and helped build the foundation for the thrash to come. Venom was the first actual thrash band and are only called black metal due to there lyrics while the musically it is still thrash.

milano mosh 02-02-2004 05:25 PM

Favorites
Drummer - Benante (not the best, but when I hear his drumming it makes me play air drums; I can't think of any other drummers who do that to me)
Vocalist - Araya
Bassist - Newsted
Guitarist - Hanneman

TheUnforgiven 02-02-2004 05:37 PM

Drummer - Paul Bostaph
Vocalist - Araya (his voice from SNM till about Divine Intervention has that sharpness to it that goes perfect with the music, IMO)
Bassist - Cliff Burton
Guitarist - Dave Mustaine

EvilMunkey 02-02-2004 05:48 PM

Favorite
Drummer- Lombardo
Vocalist- Max Cavalera (I dont think he has a lot of skill, I just find his voice more appealing than any other thrash vocalist)
Bassist- Burton
Guitarist- Hanneman (all the ****ing way)

Believeless 02-02-2004 06:44 PM

Drums - Benante. Lombardo and Bostaph just play a fast double bass beat with a few fills. Not that amazing technically per say
Vocals - Ayara or old Hetfield
Bass - Burton
Guitar - Hanneman

deftoned 02-03-2004 12:00 AM

Drums - Lombardo: I love all of his beats, but Bostaph has him beaten on the double pedals. Louie Clemente is d*mn underrated, he's a great drummer. I'm a big fan of Nick Menza as well.
Bass - Cliff wasn't that great, he had three shining moments, but Ellefson and Greg Christian have him beat.
Rhythm Guitar - Mustaine: Can play a mighty fast riff, with tremendous coordination, and could sing and play his material.Definitely close behind:Hetfield, and I really think Scott Ian was rather underrated. Hanneman is good, but all of King's solos are just divebombs, it cracks me up.
Lead - Skolnick or Friedman: Both of these guys could wipe the floor with everyone else.
Vocalist - Hetfield: He had the ultimate frontman persona; he was brutal and so physical on stage and had a tremendous power over an audience, and wrote some **** fine lyrics too. Steve Souza, Chuck Billy, Tom Araya, all deserve mentions.

manuscriptreplica 02-03-2004 01:56 AM

[QUOTE=TheUnavoidable]Im pretty sure Motorhead started trash and Venom were the first black metal band.[/QUOTE]

gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its not trash its THRASH

FrailandBedazzled1979 02-03-2004 02:20 AM

[QUOTE=deftoned]Drums - Lombardo: I love all of his beats, but Bostaph has him beaten on the double pedals. Louie Clemente is d*mn underrated, he's a great drummer. I'm a big fan of Nick Menza as well.
Bass - Cliff wasn't that great, he had three shining moments, but Ellefson and Greg Christian have him beat.
Rhythm Guitar - Mustaine: Can play a mighty fast riff, with tremendous coordination, and could sing and play his material.Definitely close behind:Hetfield, and I really think Scott Ian was rather underrated. Hanneman is good, but all of King's solos are just divebombs, it cracks me up.
Lead - Skolnick or Friedman: Both of these guys could wipe the floor with everyone else.
Vocalist - Hetfield: He had the ultimate frontman persona; he was brutal and so physical on stage and had a tremendous power over an audience, and wrote some **** fine lyrics too. Steve Souza, Chuck Billy, Tom Araya, all deserve mentions.[/QUOTE]

im in TOTAL aggreement with everything you wrote lol. wonderful. the bard king raises his chalice to a thrash metal manaic!!!

deftoned 02-03-2004 03:28 AM

Cheers Frail, all hail the mighty Testament! :thumb: *toasts the mini-alliance* lol

Jondur 02-03-2004 03:31 AM

[QUOTE=milano mosh]Motorhead were mor of a pre-t[B]H[/B]rash band and helped build the foundation for the thrash to come. Venom was the first actual thrash band and are only called black metal due to there lyrics while the musically it is still thrash.[/QUOTE]

Bingo! We have a winner. It's a fair point with Motorhead but they were too punk to be proper thrash - Welcome to Hell was the first album when you could say "that is thrash metal". Calling Motorhead thrash is a bit like saying Black Sabbath were doom just because Cathedral sound like them.

deftoned 02-03-2004 03:35 AM

^True, Motorhead were definitely more punk than metal, they had the aggression of metal, with the speed, attitude and rawness of punk. I believe Motorhead and Venom's bastard child was thrash. 100% right.

Jondur 02-03-2004 03:41 AM

No. Sorry to be pedantic but the result of Black Sabbath's, Motorhead's and Judas Priest's three way orgy was VENOM. Slayer, Metallica etc were a carbon copy of venoms style with varying degrees of evilness.

deftoned 02-03-2004 03:45 AM

hehe Yeah, I'm not gunna argue with you, 'cos we'll go back for years on who influenced who lol

Rattlehead 502 02-03-2004 09:12 AM

did you guys know that at first dave mustaine wanted to play black metal like venom dut he didn't do it cause he said he sounded like the cookie monster :)

Rattlehead 502 02-03-2004 09:15 AM

you guys know if I can join?

ThrashMaster27 02-03-2004 10:25 AM

[QUOTE=Rattlehead 502]did you guys know that at first dave mustaine wanted to play black metal like venom dut he didn't do it cause he said he sounded like the cookie monster :)[/QUOTE]

Didn't we just discuss that Venom aren't Black Metal?

If it was up to me you wouldn't be allowed in the clan because you look for arguments basically.....something we could do without. Plus you claim to be a massive fan of Megadeth and you spelt it Megadeath! no, no we can't have that. Another thing is you said you saw one of the first Megadeth and Metallica shows, right? that would make you how old when you saw them? 1, 2, 3?

Jondur 02-03-2004 10:29 AM

Unless he meant the first shows when they played together - which were in 88/89

ThrashMaster27 02-03-2004 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]Unless he meant the first shows when they played together - which were in 88/89[/QUOTE]

Nope, he clearly stated that he saw both Bands live when they were starting out.

Toozey 02-03-2004 10:31 AM

Or maybe he meant Metallica with Mustaine and he is really stupid! :eek:


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