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Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]I think you did not get what I was asking.

I was asking for you to elaborate on why you dislike it so much.

Stoic - MSN is working fine for me, and I added you as well by the way.

NP - Dark Tranquillity - Atom Heart 243.5[/QUOTE]
Well, it's basically a classic rock wankers thread...

Little or no real music to be seen on the list...

HNLzero 10-23-2005 04:14 PM

[QUOTE]frenetic_amnesic: Really though, I'd like to know what being on Gigantour was like. Do you dig Megadeth?

I think Rust In Peace is one of the few perfect thrash metal albums of that period, along with ...And Justice For All and Reign In Blood. I definitely wore that album out when I was a kid. They lost it after that though. That was their perfect album. Gigantour was pretty bizarre. We had never done anything like that in the US. Never really done a metal tour like that. Gigantour was like this for us: we get there, stage hands and production people treat us like shit because they know we are gonna make their lives hard for 25 minutes a night, we go onstage, 4000 forty-five year old dudes who still live in their mom's basement and collect swords and dungeons and dragons cards give us the finger and yell faggot at us, we throw equipment at them and instigate them in any way possible, people that work at the arena are horrified and come running toward the stage to try to get us turned off, we are done, people boo, we stuff ourselves with catering.[/QUOTE]

Pretty interesting read.
[url]http://www.lambgoat.com/features/interviews/dillinger_escape_plan3.aspx[/url]

Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 04:16 PM

[QUOTE]I think Rust In Peace is one of the few perfect thrash metal albums of that period[/QUOTE]

I'm with that.

Shadows 10-23-2005 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]If you hate practically every song on there, you either have either bad taste or have not even heard the songs.

I find that really hard to believe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=jpj]I think you misunderstood. You can't say "I hate X band, I denominate all their songs and all future songs nominated." Say there are 4 specific songs on the list that you dislike from the same band, you can denominate them, just give a short reason why other than "i hate this band" or "this song sucks."[/QUOTE]
The problem is that most all of those songs are by bands I know, but I haven't actually heard the songs themselves. Obviously I know Hendrix and Pink Floyd etc., but since I'm not actually familiar with those specific songs, I can't really judge. I'm not much on classic rock, which is what 80% of that list is comprosed of, so there's really nothing I can do.

jpj 10-23-2005 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]The problem is that most all of those songs are by bands I know, but I haven't actually heard the songs themselves. Obviously I know Hendrix and Pink Floyd etc., but since I'm not actually familiar with those specific songs, I can't really judge. I'm not much on classic rock, which is what 80% of that list is comprosed of, so there's really nothing I can do.[/QUOTE]
The songs from the classic rock bands are all their most well known songs, and you say you don't know them, yet I'm supposed to believe you are familiar enough with the bands to know for a fact that you dislike their entire repertoire?

And don't think it's just because all the rock fans hate metal, last night myself and several CR regulars got into it with Krabsman for arbitrarily (sp?) denominating all metal songs.

Shadows 10-23-2005 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]The songs from the classic rock bands are all their most well known songs, and you say you don't know them, yet I'm supposed to believe you are familiar enough with the bands to know for a fact that you dislike their entire repertoire?[/QUOTE]
I can't say I dislike the entire repertoire, because obviously I've never heard everything. But by listening to one or two songs, can't you get the general idea as to what someone sounds like? I've heard some stuff by those bands, and I just don't like the overall sound of it. Just because I don't know specific songs doesn't mean I can't make a decision on whether or not I like their sound.

Stoic 10-23-2005 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Well, it's basically a classic rock wankers thread...

Little or no real music to be seen on the list...[/QUOTE]

I disagree with you. Just because this kind of music does not meet with your standards it doesnt mean its not good. I dont mind if this is a classic rock thing, besides they should break the metal monopoly of the forum from time to time.

Kingofdudes 10-23-2005 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen] But by listening to one or two songs, can't you get the general idea as to what someone sounds like?[/QUOTE]
Werent you te one to say you couldnt stand Arcturus, except for a certain song? That could be the case for all of those songs on there.

Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]I disagree with you. Just because this kind of music does not meet with your standards it doesnt mean its not good. I dont mind if this is a classic rock thing, besides they should break the metal monopoly of the forum from time to time.[/QUOTE]
But come on... surely you wuld prefer to see the list composed with some PM on there?
since when has there been a "metal monopoly" as well?

Ad Absurdum 10-23-2005 04:29 PM

[quote=Stoic]I havent got the concept and I havent heard any of these non metal songs...

Is MSN down for anyone else or should I cleanse my PC again? :([/quote]
It's working for me, try giving it a clean ;)

I checked that thread about song that everyone likes, and I don't see how you could dislike all of them. I usually get told that I'm close-minded when it comes to rock and metal but I like at least one quarter of the songs there.

I'm getting ready for a trip down to London for a couple of days to see Dream Theater, I feel like a kid on Christmas eve :D

Shadows 10-23-2005 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Kingofdudes]Werent you te one to say you couldnt stand Arcturus, except for a certain song? That could be the case for all of those songs on there.[/QUOTE]
No. :confused: I said I liked Arcturus, except one song I've heard with Vortex I hated.

Your point is still valid though. That may very well be, but there's no way for me to know unless I listen to all of them, which I may do to get a better grasp of what's going on with that list.

BoboTheRagingHobo 10-23-2005 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Well, it's basically a classic rock wankers thread...

Little or no real music to be seen on the list...[/QUOTE]


Just because the whole list is not taken up by obscure metal bands means it is not music?

Fu[SIZE="2"]ck[/SIZE] off.

On the current list I only see about 11-13 classic rock bands, and quite a few modern rock and metal bands.


And the forums threads and discussion on this forum are by far dominated by the metalheads, and rock discussion usually sticks to one to two threads for the most part.

And besides, you people are forgetting the whole concept of the thread. It's not like the metal world in where you try and prove that you are more kvlt and true then the next guy.

NP - Vital Remains - Dechristianize

Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]Just because the whole list is not taken up by obscure metal bands means it is not music?

Fu[SIZE="2"]ck[/SIZE] off.

On the current list I only see about 11-13 classic rock bands, and quite a few modern rock and metal bands.


NP - Vital Remains - Dechristianize[/QUOTE]
Forget about it, I'm just trying to get some people I don't like pissed off, that's all, see, I left the pink floyd off my "sucks hairy man-balls" list;)

[QUOTE]I'm getting ready for a trip down to London for a couple of days to see Dream Theater, I feel like a kid on Christmas eve [/QUOTE]

Lucky bugger

NP-Dragonforce-trail of broken hearts.
the new album is teh secks.

Stoic 10-23-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]But come on... surely you wuld prefer to see the list composed with some PM on there?
since when has there been a "metal monopoly" as well?[/QUOTE]

Ollie what happened to you? I didnt know you were that tr00 :p Sure I'd rather see a list with power metal songs or anything metal but I know that there's a great amount of people who like classic rock and respect them as they respect me.

As for the metal monopoly...Well it is not exactly a monopoly but I've noticed that most threads in here lean towards metal.

Shadows 10-23-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]NP-Dragonforce-trail of broken hearts.
the new album is teh secks.[/QUOTE]
I found it somewhat disappointing. :(

Kingofdudes 10-23-2005 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]
since when has there been a "metal monopoly" as well?[/QUOTE]
The top bassist poll was mostly Metal bassists.

Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]Ollie what happened to you? I didnt know you were that tr00 :p Sure I'd rather see a list with power metal songs or anything metal but I know that there's a great amount of people who like classic rock and respect them as they respect me.

As for the metal monopoly...Well it is not exactly a monopoly but I've noticed that most threads in here lean towards metal.[/QUOTE]
Nah, I'm just having a laugh, taking some of these "you can't say anything bad on here, because it's not nice and not respectful of other users tastes"
losers down a peg or two:p



I see what you mean, ther than the PF thread and the offical CR thread, there isn't much in the way of rock going on, hmm...

NP-Dragonforce-through the fire and flames

[QUOTE]The top bassist poll was mostly Metal bassists.[/QUOTE]

You think so?
It depends what you define as metal I would suspect.

PinkFreud 10-23-2005 04:46 PM

well, they certainly werent classic rock bassists winning. heh.

like it SHOULD have been.

Stoic 10-23-2005 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=Ollie]]Nah, I'm just having a laugh, taking some of these "you can't say anything bad on here, because it's not nice and not respectful of other users tastes"
losers down a peg or two [/QUOTE]

/pwned :upset:


Whats wrong with the new dragonforce ShadowsFallen?

The crash thing has started to annoy me :angry:

Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]/pwned :upset:


Whats wrong with the new dragonforce ShadowsFallen?

The crash thing has started to annoy me :angry:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I wonder if it'll be a regular thing, or there are just some bugs in the system...

/removes Pwn.

Six Foot Revolver 10-23-2005 05:23 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Yeah, I wonder if it'll be a regular thing, or there are just some bugs in the system...[/QUOTE]
From what MX said in the announcement I think it could be :(.

jpj 10-23-2005 05:24 PM

Hopefully, it won't be like before where it froze every 10 minutes.

superpeer 10-23-2005 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]
And besides, you people are forgetting the whole concept of the thread. It's not like the metal world in where you try and prove that you are more kvlt and true then the next guy.

NP - Vital Remains - Dechristianize[/QUOTE]


I like how you added that NP. :-*

Shadows 10-23-2005 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]/pwned :upset:


Whats wrong with the new dragonforce ShadowsFallen?

The crash thing has started to annoy me :angry:[/QUOTE]
Nothing really. I listened to most of it, and I thought it was sounded pretty good. But as I listened on I started to notice striking similarities to Sonic Firestorm. After a while, all the intros and melodic parts seemed like they were taken right from SF and recycled for the new album. I though it was really similar to SF, which disappointed me. :(

But that's only from one listen. I love Dragonforce, so I'll keep listening to see if it grows on me, which I'm confident it will.

The crashing is really irritating me too.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]I like how you added that NP. :-*[/QUOTE]
It was a damn good NP. :cool:

i am the robots 10-23-2005 05:29 PM

I think it's really good man, the similarities are there because it is the same band.

Ad Absurdum 10-23-2005 05:30 PM

[quote=ShadowsFallen]Nothing really. I listened to most of it, and I thought it was sounded pretty good. But as I listened on I started to notice striking similarities to Sonic Firestorm. After a while, all the intros and melodic parts seemed like they were taken right from SF and recycled for the new album. I though it was really similar to SF, which disappointed me. :([/quote]
I've always thought they sounded the same on every song, and there are some [i]very[/i] striking similarities between songs on [i]Valley Of The Damned[/i] and [i]Sonic Firestorm[/i]. I probably won't buy their new one, I don't see the point in spending £10 on a CD when I've got two of it's identical twins already.

Stoic 10-23-2005 05:33 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Nothing really. I listened to most of it, and I thought it was sounded pretty good. But as I listened on I started to notice striking similarities to Sonic Firestorm. After a while, all the intros and melodic parts seemed like they were taken right from SF and recycled for the new album. I though it was really similar to SF, which disappointed me. :(

But that's only from one listen. I love Dragonforce, so I'll keep listening to see if it grows on me, which I'm confident it will.
[/QUOTE]

Ahh, this sounds rather disappointing. Same with the reviews in MA. :(
I think they should have taken their time and not rush another album, at least for now.

:wave: goodnight!

Shadows 10-23-2005 05:35 PM

I've never heard Valley of the Damned, but I own Sonic Firestorm. I'll listen to IH some more and then decide, but I'll more then likely not buy it.

Lord Abortion 10-23-2005 05:36 PM

I think, to be honest you may have a point.
it will grow on me I'm sure and I like it well enough now, but perhaps waiting a little before producing a new album may have been a better idea.
Who knows?
next week, we could all be raving about it...

NP-Megadeth- Addicted to chaos

Six Foot Revolver 10-23-2005 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]I think it's really good man, the similarities are there because it is the same band.[/QUOTE]
True but the similarities are too similiar even for the same band. I still feel that it is a great album though :).



NP: Fantomas - 04/09/05


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