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Lunch 07-19-2005 12:45 AM

Yea, oh well. I'm just glad there is some form of video documentation from Cream's years. Plus the music is outstanding.

Seafroggys 07-19-2005 01:08 AM

Yeah I saw that farewell concert too, on a VHS. Directors in that day loved extreme closeups of the face and of different players other than the spotlight, and by zooming in and out and all that weird jazz that they thought was cool back then, but now its just dumb and stupid.

The thing that irked me most was that during all of Clapton's solos, the camera was on Bruce the whole time except for maybe 4 seconds total.......urg!

Drugstep 07-19-2005 01:11 AM

I'd like to see the Crossroads DVD with all the guitarists on it.

clown_phobia 07-19-2005 01:51 AM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]this dvd is an instant return of faith in my belief that cream was the greatest ensemble ever.[/QUOTE]

Why do you say 'ensemble' instead of band?

MyDarkRomeo 07-19-2005 02:47 AM

what would your definition of classic rock be anyway? Is it from the 70's?

Walrus Gumboot 07-19-2005 06:46 AM

[QUOTE=MyDarkRomeo]what would your definition of classic rock be anyway? Is it from the 70's?[/QUOTE]


I would say from 50's (Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Elvis etc.) rock through the 70's and some of the 80's (80's being artists from the 60's 70's who kept making albums, like The Who or Pink Floyd, but not, for example, Madonna)

Everyone has a different opinion on this, though

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 07-19-2005 09:03 AM

[QUOTE=MyDarkRomeo]what would your definition of classic rock be anyway? Is it from the 70's?[/QUOTE]
A broad classification of highly diverse Rock made from 1965 to 1973. (<--IMO) Again this is a classification of Rock it really has no particular sound nor can it really have the title of being called a genre.

Examples of Classic Rock:

The Doors (Psychedelic, Blues Rock)
Grateful Dead (Psychedelic, Country Rock, Jam Rock)
Rolling Stones (Blues Rock)
Pink Floyd (Psychedelic, Progressive)
Bob Dylan (Folk, Blues Rock, Country)
The Beatles (Pop Rock, Psychedelic, Folk Rock)
The Who (Arena Rock, Hard Rock)
Black Sabbath (Hard Rock, Metal)

RockAndRoll 07-19-2005 09:14 AM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Why do you say 'ensemble' instead of band?[/QUOTE]
They don't mean the same thing. He likely said ensemble because he means they were the greatest ensemble, not the greatest band.

PinkFreud 07-19-2005 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=clown_phobia]Why do you say 'ensemble' instead of band?[/QUOTE]
like rockandroll said, they mean different things to me. cream is not, in my opinion, the greatest band ever but they ARE the greatest ensemble ever. meaning that the way they interact with each other and the way they mesh is superior to me.

hethamulburton 07-19-2005 11:58 AM

Would Blackfoot be considered a classic rock band, cause they have some kick *** songs? Not saying that kick *** songs make classic rock bands, just my opinion intertwined in a question.

Broken Arrow 07-19-2005 12:29 PM

Just bought-

Jefferson Airplane-Bless its Pointed Little Head
The Grateful Dead-Working Man's Dead
The Grateful Dead-Shakedown Street
Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks
Led Zeppelin-III

BludgeonySteve 07-19-2005 12:43 PM

oooo, essentials in my opinion.

*'cept the 1st and 3rd which I do not own.

jpj 07-19-2005 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=Schyma]A broad classification of highly diverse Rock made from 1965 to 1973. (<--IMO) Again this is a classification of Rock it really has no particular sound nor can it really have the title of being called a genre.

Examples of Classic Rock:

The Doors (Psychedelic, Blues Rock)
Grateful Dead (Psychedelic, Country Rock, Jam Rock)
Rolling Stones (Blues Rock)
Pink Floyd (Psychedelic, Progressive)
Bob Dylan (Folk, Blues Rock, Country)
The Beatles (Pop Rock, Psychedelic, Folk Rock)
The Who (Arena Rock, Hard Rock)
Black Sabbath (Hard Rock, Metal)[/QUOTE]
Only to '73? Cutting it short a little, don't you think?

Also, though there are blues influences in a lot of Dylan songs I would never call him blues rock.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 07-19-2005 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]Only to '73? Cutting it short a little, don't you think?[/QUOTE]
Not really but that's all opinion anyway I do think there was Classic Rock music being made after that but Classic Rock bands were created between those 2 years with very few exceptions. Can the [I]Division Bell[/I] be considered Classic Rock? It was made in the mid-90's but it was made by a Classic Rock band making it Classic Rock. It's really all opinion based though.

Glitterati 07-19-2005 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]

Also, though there are blues influences in a lot of Dylan songs I would never call him blues rock.[/QUOTE]

"Down The Highway" comes to mind, but I can't think of a ton of blues-ish Dylan songs.

robo2448 07-19-2005 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]Just bought-

Jefferson Airplane-Bless its Pointed Little Head
The Grateful Dead-Working Man's Dead
The Grateful Dead-Shakedown Street
Bob Dylan-Blood on the Tracks
Led Zeppelin-III[/QUOTE]

I thought you had BOTT :confused:

And Dylan had many blues influences, mainly John Lee Hooker whom he used to open for before he became big. However, his music was folk-rock with some blues influences, some of his songs have some blues guitar scales in them.

np- The Band- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages) Robbie Robertson kicks ***.

jpj 07-19-2005 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I thought you had BOTT :confused:

And Dylan had many blues influences, mainly John Lee Hooker whom he used to open for before he became big. However, his music was folk-rock with some blues influences, some of his songs have some blues guitar scales in them.

np- The Band- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages) Robbie Robertson kicks ***.[/QUOTE]
You should know that in this day and age you don't have to own an album to have it.

Using blues scales doesn't make you blues rock, just for the record.

robo2448 07-19-2005 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]You should know that in this day and age you don't have to own an album to have it.

Using blues scales doesn't make you blues rock, just for the record.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but I thought Livewired said he owned it a while ago :confused:

I was saying that Dylan is folk-rock, but has blues influences which are somewhat shown in blues scales in some songs. I know Dylan is not blues-rock.

Edit- I'm listening to Surrealistic Pillow now, so I thought I'd ask, how's Bless It's Pointed Little Head?

PinkFreud 07-19-2005 03:21 PM

its live isnt it?

robo2448 07-19-2005 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]its live isnt it?[/QUOTE]

Really? Airplane live must be great. Did they play at Woodstock?

barrett420 07-19-2005 03:27 PM

Yes

drugstore cowboy 07-19-2005 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]np- The Band- Don't Do It (Rock Of Ages) Robbie Robertson kicks ***.[/QUOTE]

I have that on some other live Band album, "The Night they drove old dixie down". I like the Who's version of it better, though they're both good.

Broken Arrow 07-19-2005 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=jpj]You should know that in this day and age you don't have to own an album to have it.

Using blues scales doesn't make you blues rock, just for the record.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Pink Freud sent it to me awhile ago, but today I bought it fo' real. Anyways, live Airplane = teh [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit

Glitterati 07-19-2005 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]live Airplane = teh [COLOR=White]s[/COLOR]hit[/QUOTE]

That's what I hear.

Lunch 07-19-2005 04:55 PM

Yea, I still want that live Airplane album, I'll get it after I get After Bathing at Baxter's.

robo2448 07-19-2005 05:11 PM

All I have is Surrealistic Pillow. I think Volunteers will be next.

Lunch 07-19-2005 05:15 PM

Volunteers is great, you should definitely get it.

Broken Arrow 07-19-2005 05:20 PM

Right now "Today" is is my favourite song.

thickasabrick 07-19-2005 05:32 PM

I can't believe I missed the Final Poll! And how the hell could Cliff Burton win!? Poor Jack Bruce.

Jefferson Airplane are great live, although their studio work is wonderful as well. The only real problem with hearing live bands recorded from the 60's is it's usually pretty bad recording quality. Plus they didn't really have a lot of the things bands have these days (I don't think bands used monitors back then). The Jefferson Airplane were one of the best bands to see live in the sixties mainly because they played so many gigs, usually with the Grateful Dead. I can imagine a band would learn a thing or two about playing live if they've gigged with the Dead as much as Jefferson Airplane did.

clown_phobia 07-19-2005 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Really? Airplane live must be great. Did they play at Woodstock?[/QUOTE]

Yeah they did, I saw it on the dvd!

Some good stuff on the dvd... Hendrix and The Who were my favourite and my favourite song was "See Me, Feel Me / Listening To You" by the who - the climax to their set that was played just as the sun rose on sunday morning.

:thumb:

Also, can someone please upload something by the Grateful Dead? Thanks in advance.


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