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BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]He's not as bad as the guy from Creed.

Besides, power metal isn't really a Swedish thing hun.[/QUOTE]

I don't mind Creed guy's voice.

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Sonata Arctica = A7X?

Dragonforce = A7X?

No thanks, babe.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 07:56 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Yes and no. Most people can't sit and listen to a Satriani or Vai CD all the way through because it's not the most fun to listen to usually. Their technical skills aren't holding them back, but their emphasis on them in their music is. I figure most classic rock bands have sold more records than them, and almost no classic rock musicians went to music school. Most of them revolutionized music without that education too.

I still dont know how to apply theory to any of the music I write except for the classical music. You say I'm better than you, so there ya go.

No, good music is made better by a good musician adding talent in the proper dosage. Adding talent makes some stuff worse.[/QUOTE]
Most classic rock musicians had to get lessons of some sort whether it was through a teacher or a father. They definitely didn't have the resources people have had today to even be self sufficient. Even Kurt Cobain had basic guitar training through his grandfather.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 07:59 PM

I didn't know Troy Brown is a wide out now?

Permanent Solution 09-08-2005 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=BleedthesKY]I will listen to otherwise bleh bands because they have talent. Give me examples, phag.

How do you write lead riffs? Guess and check?[/QUOTE]
I find Dream Theater's solos don't always fit as well as say, Pink Floyd's. I don't like listening to technical music for the sake of technical. For instance, I can't stand almost any Jazz.

Sort of. I know scales sort of, but not what scales. I play notes in progression until I find what I want. Usually I find the base note I want, then the next note, then play the two and try to find the next note, and find each note one at a time after playing through everything that comes before it.

B 09-08-2005 08:00 PM

While it's on the topic of metalcore, can anyone recommend me some good bands, my pop-punk collection far outwieghs my metalcore at the moment.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=chips88]Ohhhh, the sarcasm.

And I hate it cause they are so gay, so fake, so stupid, so full of themselves.

In Due Time does rule too, and BLC is christian was well Chris, so you have to buy their stuff too!!![/QUOTE]

He wasn't being sarcastic, methinks.

I've been looking for In Due Time's newest album for a while. I find Capital Tragedy is better if I want breakdown + Breakdown + Breakdown = Music. They aren't just empty breakdowns (like "Chug chug chug. Chug), but full, complete, awesome ones ("Chug chug chug NENENE NANANA!")

[url]http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/28/index.php[/url]

The band is ****, seriously.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]While it's on the topic of metalcore, can anyone recommend me some good bands, my pop-punk collection far outwieghs my metalcore at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Metalcore like actual metalcore or metalcore thats basically break downs + hardcore/metal or metalcore with some melody?

Permanent Solution 09-08-2005 08:02 PM

[QUOTE=BleedthesKY]I don't mind Creed guy's voice.

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Sonata Arctica = A7X?

Dragonforce = A7X?

No thanks, babe.[/QUOTE]
Ew, it's terrible.

Nope, but nor are they Swedish.
[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]Most classic rock musicians had to get lessons of some sort whether it was through a teacher or a father. They definitely didn't have the resources people have had today to even be self sufficient. Even Kurt Cobain had basic guitar training through his grandfather.[/QUOTE]
Stop changing your argument you fag. I wouldn't have argued if you said all good musicians had lessons, jesus. You said they went to music school, there's a huge difference. Seriously, stick to your point and then admit defeat when I prove you wrong rather than change arguments.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]While it's on the topic of metalcore, can anyone recommend me some good bands, my pop-punk collection far outwieghs my metalcore at the moment.[/QUOTE]

What kind of metalcore are you looking for?

Metal with breakdowns? (stuff like As I Lay dying, for instance)

50% Metal 50% hardcore? (Eh...I can't think if any popular examples.)

Technical Metalcore? (Between The Buried And Me or something)

B 09-08-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]Metalcore like actual metalcore or metalcore thats basically break downs + hardcore/metal or metalcore with some melody?[/QUOTE]
Anything, doesn't matter.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 08:04 PM

Randy Moss just owned the Patriots safties

chips88 09-08-2005 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]While it's on the topic of metalcore, can anyone recommend me some good bands, my pop-punk collection far outwieghs my metalcore at the moment.[/QUOTE]

Death by Stereo
Unearth
Norma Jean
As I Lay Dying
Everytime I Die!!!
Bury Your Dead
The Agony Scene
Beloved
Darkest Hour
Evergreen Terrace
Into the Moat
Misery Signals
Winter Solstice

some of those are more metal, some more hardcore, but most are going to be argued over by Chris.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]

Stop changing your argument you fag. I wouldn't have argued if you said all good musicians had lessons, jesus. You said they went to music school, there's a huge difference. Seriously, stick to your point and then admit defeat when I prove you wrong rather than change arguments.[/QUOTE]

Let him be, not everyone hangs out in the politics forum (or used to).

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=BleedthesKY]What kind of metalcore are you looking for?

Metal with breakdowns? (stuff like As I Lay dying, for instance)

50% Metal 50% hardcore? (Eh...I can't think if any popular examples.)

Technical Metalcore? (Between The Buried And Me or something)[/QUOTE]
AILD was one of the first bands that got me into the genre..

Dead to fall, Converge, Into the Moat... I don't think anyone considers them metalcore but everyone loves Poison the well.

Tjebby 09-08-2005 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=chips88]Death by Stereo
Unearth
As I Lay Dying
Bury Your Dead
The Agony Scene
Beloved
Into the Moat
Misery Signals
Winter Solstice

[/QUOTE]
Send me some.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Stop changing your argument you fag. I wouldn't have argued if you said all good musicians had lessons, jesus. You said they went to music school, there's a huge difference. Seriously, stick to your point and [b]then admit defeat when I prove you wrong rather than change arguments.[/b][/QUOTE]
2-0 this week so far I'd say :lol:

B 09-08-2005 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]AILD was one of the first bands that got me into the genre..

Dead to fall, Converge, Into the Moat... I don't think anyone considers them metalcore but everyone loves Poison the well.[/QUOTE]
Ive got AILD, PTW, getting BTBAM right now. Converge I've heard good things about. Ill check it out. Anything like BTBAM would be cool I guess.

Permanent Solution 09-08-2005 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=BleedthesKY]Let him be, not everyone hangs out in the politics forum (or used to).[/QUOTE]
I dont like to waste my time though, and I do like when people admit I'm right.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=chips88]
Norma Jean (Old)
The Agony Scene(Old)
Beloved
Into the Moat
Misery Signals[/QUOTE]

I narrowed this list down to the good bands.

I shall type up a list later.

For now, check hxcmp3.com for Above This Fire, Cold War, Misery Signals, Fordirelifesake, The Acacia Strain, With All Sincerity, Wings Of Scarlet, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, The Secret, and Conducting From The Grave.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Fire Whispers]Ive got AILD, PTW, getting BTBAM right now. Converge I've heard good things about. Ill check it out. Anything like BTBAM would be cool I guess.[/QUOTE]
You really need an ear for converge I'd say but they are gods. Old Cave In, Chips gave in a good list.

Five Minute Ride
Remembering Never
Anterrabae
It dies today
All Else Failed (one of my favorites)
Zao
Martyr A.D.

chips88 09-08-2005 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Tjebby]Send me some.[/QUOTE]

none of which is on my computer. Sorry, but when its good stuff like that, I buy it. Or burn it, I just don't download.

Tjebby 09-08-2005 08:18 PM

Lol its cool. I need more metalcore... coughCHRIScough.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]AILD was one of the first bands that got me into the genre..

Dead to fall, Converge, Into the Moat... I don't think anyone considers them metalcore but everyone loves Poison the well.[/QUOTE]

Into The Moat is tech metal. You add a core because of the breakdowns, silly. I don't listen to Converge. I want to try one of their remastered albums though.

chips88 09-08-2005 08:19 PM

ok, look Jon, the new Agony Scene is not that bad!!!

and yeah, TTEOTD is pretty sweet, but lesser known.

And how could I forget It Dies Today!!! Maybe a bit generic, yes, but hella fun, definitely.

Understanding In a Crash 09-08-2005 08:21 PM

Yeah the It Dies Today vocalist is a cutie.

Tjebby 09-08-2005 08:22 PM

Jon, I have some Converge if you want it... I don't think they are remastered though. I'm not too sure.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=Tjebby]Lol its cool. I need more metalcore... coughCHRIScough.[/QUOTE]

You haven't heard of every band I listed, get them. Get A Kiss Farewell. I garuntee you haven't heard of them (Unless Chris mentioned them behind my back).

They have a hxcmp3.

Tjebby 09-08-2005 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=BleedthesKY]You haven't heard of every band I listed, get them. Get A Kiss Farewell. I garuntee you haven't heard of them (Unless Chris mentioned them behind my back).

They have a hxcmp3.[/QUOTE]
Well, we made a deal that he would make me a "mix tape" of metalcore and all, but he hasn't.

BridgeToSolace 09-08-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=Tjebby]Well, we made a deal that he would make me a "mix tape" of metalcore and all, but he hasn't.[/QUOTE]

Because he's lazy.

Tell me your AIM. I'll get you some With All Sincerity. They rock my socks. Great use of dissonance.

Tjebby 09-08-2005 08:25 PM

Tjebby.

Yeah, i'm so original.


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