[QUOTE=Illmatic]


Yeah, I guess it's kind of hard for an idiot metalhead to appreciate jazz :p

Just kidding, of course. [/QUOTE]

Reaaally funny, 50 cent. :p

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Reaaally funny, 50 cent. :p[/QUOTE]

Shut yo mouf, cracka.

[QUOTE=cjborton]I'm sorry, but I'm having a lot of trouble here picturing Grace as a bad guy, especially Venom at that.[/QUOTE]

No kidding...I wonder how many people turned down the role. There's no way he could have been their Plan A (or Plan B, C, D, E, F...)

And on a different note, long time no see.

NP: Miles Davis - Concierto de Aranjuez (yeah, this thread got me on a Miles kick again)

[QUOTE=Illmatic]And on a different note, long time no see.[/QUOTE]

Indeed, good sir. Hows life treating you these days?

[QUOTE=Joe]:upset: ![/QUOTE]
:lol:

Joe = Arucard



NP: Mr. Bungle - None of them knew they were robots

Yeah, where you been, Ray? You're supposed to be the top poster. Speaking of Top Posters, I haven't seen Chris either.

NP: The Beach Boys - I'm waiting for the day

Venom was only a bad guy when he was Venom; when he wasn't Venom he was more or less a regular guy. I'd assume Grace will only really be called on to act as non-Venom..I can't picture Venom himself doing any acting more refined than roaring and smashing things.

I agree it's time he got in on the films. Though, I thought that since Peter and MJ got together at the end of the second one, they might want to bring in Black Cat.

As for Miles Davis, I enjoy pretty much every album I have by him so far. I think I have a special liking for [i]Porgy and Bess[/i] and [i]In A Silent Way[/i].

Lisa (Simpson) likes [i]Birth of the Cool[/i].

/late

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Yeah, where you been, Ray? You're supposed to be the top poster. Speaking of Top Posters, I haven't seen Chris either.

NP: The Beach Boys - I'm waiting for the day[/QUOTE]
Last time I saw him he was saying how much MX sucks and how he hardly posts anymore. Which might explain it.

Venom I'm not so sure about, but I'd love to see Church as a villain. Man, I used to love Wings.

NP: Opeth - Harvest

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Venom I'm not so sure about, but I'd love to see Church as a villain. Man, I used to love Wings.

NP: Opeth - Harvest[/QUOTE]

Can anyone explain to me what the hell you are all talking about, I'm really not following.

The only Venom I know were pioneers in Black Metal.


NP: Smashing Pumpkins - Zero

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Can anyone explain to me what the hell you are all talking about, I'm really not following.

The only Venom I know were pioneers in Black Metal.[/QUOTE]

Comic book talk. Venom's a Spiderman character.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Can anyone explain to me what the hell you are all talking about, I'm really not following.

The only Venom I know were pioneers in Black Metal.


NP: Smashing Pumpkins - Zero[/QUOTE]
Venom as in the villain in the next Spider-man movie.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Can anyone explain to me what the hell you are all talking about, I'm really not following.

The only Venom I know were pioneers in Black Metal.


NP: Smashing Pumpkins - Zero[/QUOTE]
Same here.


NP: Mr. Bungle - Retrovertigo

[QUOTE=Bart]Lisa (Simpson) likes Birth of the Cool.
[/QUOTE]

I really dig the cover to that album.

[QUOTE=Bart]I can't picture Venom himself doing any acting more refined than roaring and smashing things.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't he talk to himself a lot, though? Although now I may well be nitpicking.

[QUOTE=Bart]Venom was only a bad guy when he was Venom; when he wasn't Venom he was more or less a regular guy. I'd assume Grace will only really be called on to act as non-Venom..[/QUOTE]

But even then, wasn't non-Venom a pretty big and antagonistic guy? I don't think Grace fits the profile.

[QUOTE=cj]Indeed, good sir. Hows life treating you these days?[/QUOTE]

Could be better, could be a lot worse. My baby half[? step-? nowadays I don't know what to call him]-brother is due in like, a month so that's gonna be fun when I go home for Thanksgiving. How's military life?

[QUOTE=Jelle]Yeah, where you been, Ray? You're supposed to be the top poster. Speaking of Top Posters, I haven't seen Chris either.[/QUOTE]

I dunno, I guess there has been an influx of new posters here, and I don't know a whole lot of them, so it's made me less inclined to post in here. Chris doesn't like R+M anymore, so if he is on MX he's in Alt and Indie.

[QUOTE=Bartender]Comic book talk. Venom's a Spiderman character.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I actually saw the first Spider man film. /proud

[QUOTE=Illmatic]How's military life?[/QUOTE]

It's pretty decent. I've been on this recreation center detail for a few weeks now and it's about the most tits job you can get in the Amry. Literally I sit my ass in a recliner and watch movies all day. Good stuff. Also, all my buddies are back from Iraq now, so we've been partying to high heaven. Other than that, just doing the usual guitar playing, hog riding, and CS:S playing.

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Ah, I actually saw the first Spider man film. /proud[/QUOTE]
The first one sucked.


NP: Mr. Bungle - Ars Moriendi

[QUOTE=cjborton]It's pretty decent. I've been on this recreation center detail for a few weeks now and it's about the most tits job you can get in the Amry. Literally I sit my ass in a recliner and watch movies all day. Good stuff. Also, all my buddies are back from Iraq now, so we've been partying to high heaven. Other than that, just doing the usual guitar playing, hog riding, and CS:S playing.[/QUOTE]

Dang, aside from bootcamp, training, and the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy (I mean, what? Er, nevermind >_>) the Army sounds like a pretty sweet gig.

Unless you're driving trucks in Iraq, then you're just f[size=2]ucked.[/size]

NP: Miles Davis - Orbits

[QUOTE=Illmatic]
Doesn't he talk to himself a lot, though? Although now I may well be nitpicking.
...
But even then, wasn't non-Venom a pretty big and antagonistic guy? I don't think Grace fits the profile.[/QUOTE]

Just have to wait and see how they handle it, I suppose.

I'm looking forward to the film, anyway.

[QUOTE=Six Foot Revolver]The first one sucked.


NP: Mr. Bungle - Ars Moriendi[/QUOTE]
I think the first is better than the second. The second had that cheesy scene in the end where she runs through a fountain in a wedding dress. I laughed my ass off the first time I saw it.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I think the first is better than the second. The second had that cheesy scene in the end where she runs through a fountain in a wedding dress. I laughed my ass off the first time I saw it.[/QUOTE]
I have only seen bits of the second one but it seemed alright from what I saw.


NP: Mr. Bungle - Golem II: The Bionic Vapour Boy

They made a second Spider-Man movie?

/is way out of the loop :upset:

NP: Miles Davis - Footprints

[QUOTE=Illmatic]They made a second Spider-Man movie?

/is way out of the loop :upset:

NP: Miles Davis - Footprints[/QUOTE]
Yes. Venom and Sandman are the villains in the upcoming third.

The ring is on TV. :eek:

I might just go and watch that.

That movie was strange and disturbing, but pretty good. I don't generall like horror movies but that wasn't bad.

I should see the second one. I hear it tied up all the loose ends left by the first.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]As for rep, I have 526. If I ever get stars, watch out, because Jom's going to go on an MX-wide crusade to get rep permanently abolished.[/QUOTE]

I've repped you before, you dumb cookie, so bwahahaha @ you.

/thinks everything's a joke today because things are going swell

///

EDIT: Hey Jelle, I got your message on MSN, but you're away.

Your message looks positive, though, so don't leave me hangin' in the dark, please :)

The reason for me being away is that my family (plus pooch in avatar) came up to visit me and deliver a few things. I told you about it yesterday, heh.

So, I apologize for not being around.

[QUOTE=Jom]I've repped you before, you dumb cookie, so bwahahaha @ you.

/thinks everything's a joke today because things are going swell

///

EDIT: Hey Jelle, I got your message on MSN, but you're away.

Your message looks positive, though, so don't leave me hangin' in the dark, please :)

The reason for me being away is that my family (plus pooch in avatar) came up to visit me and deliver a few things. I told you about it yesterday, heh.

So, I apologize for not being around.[/QUOTE]

Im....sorry about last night....hehe.:p

Why doesn't Chris like R+M anymore?

/late

As for Venom, I have his backstory memorized.

John Jameson (the astronaut MJ was dating in the second movie) goes on the furthest manned expedition into space to explore an asteroid. He discovers a new mineral, but hidden inside the rock is the symbiotic life-form that will eventually become Venom. The alien attacks the astronauts and the shuttle crashes in New York City. Spider Man saves the astronauts, but the symbiote attaches itself to Spider Man unknowingly. This results in Spider Man getting a "black suit" which, in the comic books, he had for like 100 issues without it ever being explained (in the 1970s, BTW). The black suit gives him double the strength, replenishable webbing (in the comic book his webbing comes from machines, not glands), clothes-simulation ability (making a change of costume unneccesary) and a terrible attitude. He actually comes close to all-out murdering a few supervillians, and becomes a basically evil vigilante like the Punisher. Spider Man's name is tarnished, and eventually Dr. Connors helps him to realize that the suit is alive and is attempting to permanently bond with Spider Man as a host. When he realizes this, Spidey takes advantage of the suit's biggest weakness--vulnerability to loud sounds--and stands in front of a clanging church bell. The symbiote is horrifically injured and splits off from Spidey, causing him to collapse (but eventually recover) while the alien suit is almost mortally wounded and seething with hatred at Spider-Man's rejection--until Eddie Brock comes along.

I'm assuming Eddie will be Topher's character. Brock was a reporter for the Daily Bugle, Peter Parker's newspaper, and was catapulted to fame by claiming to hold interviews with a serial killer known as "Sin-Eater." When Spider Man caught Sin-Eater, Brock was exposed as a fraud because in reality, he forged the interviews. Brock was fired and nursed a hatred for Spider Man that was even more viral than that of the symbiote's, which made him a perfect next match for the alien. They joined to become Venom, a villian with every power Spider Man has and also with the ability to block his Spider sense, and so Venom is therefore the only villian Spider Man has never beaten through brute strength. Venom is technically more powerful than Spidey is, so he's only ever beaten him temporarily by using his ingenuity rather than brawn.

My question is: how are they going to include all that in a story that also contains the Sandman? My vote: Spidey gets the black costume and uses it to beat Sandman. Eddie Brock can be a subplot. Spidey almost kills Sandman and realizes his brutal power. The last sequence of the movie comes when Spidey rids himself of the costume, and the end of the movie is Eddie joining with the alien to become Venom, thus setting the stage for the battle royale in the final and fourth Spider Man movie.

Somehow, I doubt this'll happen. :( And I'm a huge dork for knowing all that, BTW. (I was a comic collector in fourth grade). Meh.

Woah, forgot that Parker gets the black costume/symbiot and uses that to beat Sandman. That would be really cool if they put that in the movie, but it seems like the the way the black costume/Sandman/Venom all interwine would make for a very lengthy movie. I'm afraid to see how they condense it. :(

I just hope we get some good scenes of Venom breaking stuff. Lots of stuff.

That really is my only wish for the film.

EDIT: Brock was on his way to commit suicide when he found the symbiote, wasn't he? If so, then I think I remember the story well enough too.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Woah, forgot that Parker gets the black costume/symbiot and uses that to beat Sandman. That would be really cool if they put that in the movie, but it seems like the the way the black costume/Sandman/Venom all interwine would make for a very lengthy movie. I'm afraid to see how they condense it. :([/QUOTE]

Well, in the show, they used the mineral as an object of the city's crime lord's desires. Sandman could be the person hired to get it, and then Spidey can fend him off as he's saving the astronauts. The symbiote, wanting its mineral state back, could provide Spidey with additional mental influence to getting that mineral back. Thus the primary villian could still be Sandman, while the events leading to Venom's creation could occupy the realm of subplot.

I'm terrified that everything won't be so neat though. I would hate it if Spidey doesn't get the black suit at all, because then the enormity of Venom's hatred (not to mention his Spider-Man-like powers) make no sense: the only reason Venom has every ability of Spider-Man's is because he joined with Spider Man first.