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Crysiss 05-08-2006 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I'd rather record it all in Cubase or something with double tracking, bass (guitar with octave doubler), solos etc, then adding reverb, compression, eq and panning, all that fancy stuff that actually makes it sound good. Also that way, I could have as many takes as I want on the solos cause I'd probably bugger them up first time.[/QUOTE]

Thats understandable. I get nervous when Im being recorded and cant edit it out.

MRDuCran 05-08-2006 03:34 PM

Yeah exactly. Well, not nervous for me, just I don't practise pentatonic licks like Kirk plays so if I sat down and properly learnt it note for note, instead of sight reading it from the book, I'd want it spot on before I even thought of recording it.

timmySmi 05-09-2006 03:38 AM

Traped Under Ice is my favorite solo. If you want me to record any songs I'll gladly do em I can give my Sadowsky the shine it needs it'll be like jason's playing with you!

Enlighten Me 05-09-2006 04:10 AM

[QUOTE=timmySmi]Traped Under Ice is my favorite solo. If you want me to record any songs I'll gladly do em I can give my Sadowsky the shine it needs it'll be like jason's playing with you![/QUOTE]

Trapped Under Ice is SICK. Too bad thay don't write stuff like that anymore.
Why don't you record the intro solo on this track? :p

Jev 05-09-2006 09:24 AM

Maybe I should record some solos.
Just gotta find some recording stuff first.

highwaysalmon 05-09-2006 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=Rattlehead]you did. you missed alot, if you missed the heavy riffs:p

so he doesn't shred. doesn't make the solos sissy or rubbish, IMO. his solos hit all the brilliant notes in my mind when i listen, and it really fits well the riffs underneath. but thats just my opinion.

i wouldn't say the RTL solo is particularly difficult, its mainly just tapping. i really [I]like[/I] Jump In the Fire solo. that's just brilliant.[/QUOTE]

Yah the JITF solo rules, i can almost play it, altough its pretty sketchy, i got thick strings and its hard to do the bends, might upload a vid once i get it down better.

Did Kirk or Dave do that solo, i know kirk did one of them in JITF, not sure which one, anyone know?

Soul_Under_Arrest 05-09-2006 02:54 PM

My favorite Kirk solo would probably be the ones on Orion.

victim of changes 05-09-2006 03:09 PM

There are so many to choose from, creeping death, master of puppets, and wherever i may roam are solos that stand out, and right now im obsessed with the holier than thou solo.

Sadbutrue16 05-09-2006 05:45 PM

Holier Than Thou is a a sick song i think. It deserves more praise...but that's just me.

Chu 05-09-2006 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=highwaysalmon]Did Kirk or Dave do that solo, i know kirk did one of them in JITF, not sure which one, anyone know?[/QUOTE]
Well it's a bit different, but on their demoes Dave plays the JITF solo.

In my opinion, and possibly anyone who has heard the demo versions of JITF, Dave's is better!

I didn't think anyone could get it down better then Kirk, but Dave proved me wrong. Everything about Dave's is better, but I'd say more because of his lead tone on the demo albums, it's so thick :D

Sadbutrue16 05-09-2006 08:33 PM

Isn't the last solo on JITF Kirk's?

Chu 05-09-2006 11:22 PM

Could be, I haven't listenned to JITF, neither demo nor release version in a while.

I can't remember if there's an ending solo on No Life 'Til Leather's JITF :p

kamikaze148 05-09-2006 11:52 PM

:O cliff burton. lets talk about the man. just listening to that live recording of anasthesia/for whom the bell tolls. the man is sorely missed :(

Jev 05-10-2006 02:34 AM

[QUOTE=Sadbutrue16]Isn't the last solo on JITF Kirk's?[/QUOTE]
I think.
One of them is.

Enlighten Me 05-10-2006 03:25 AM

[QUOTE=kamikaze148]:O cliff burton. lets talk about the man. just listening to that live recording of anasthesia/for whom the bell tolls. the man is sorely missed :([/QUOTE]

Jeez, if that man was still around today Metallica would still be writing their old stuff.

A7X_Theater_88 05-10-2006 07:03 AM

I actually think the sandman solo is good, like it fits in with the song really well.
Does anyone know how he plays that insane sounding pinch harmonic sorta thing in the master of puppets solo at 5.50-5.53? is that two separate notes?

Apocalyptic Raids 05-10-2006 07:10 AM

[QUOTE]Jeez, if that man was still around today Metallica would still be writing their old stuff.[/QUOTE]
I doubt it.

Kreator2112 05-10-2006 07:44 AM

do you guys listen to any other thrash?

Apocalyptic Raids 05-10-2006 07:46 AM

Yes.

Father_Jack 05-10-2006 07:47 AM

[QUOTE=A7X_Theater_88]I actually think the sandman solo is good, like it fits in with the song really well.
Does anyone know how he plays that insane sounding pinch harmonic sorta thing in the master of puppets solo at 5.50-5.53? is that two separate notes?[/QUOTE]


I think you are referring to the part where he like bends and pulls the string off the board. Apparantly it was unintentional, but they thought it sound good so it stayed on the track.

Enlighten Me 05-10-2006 07:47 AM

It doesn't matter anyway, we will never find out :(

Father_Jack 05-10-2006 07:47 AM

[QUOTE=Kreator2112]do you guys listen to any other thrash?[/QUOTE]


Yes.


N.P. Iced Earth - Stand Alone

Jev 05-10-2006 09:26 AM

[QUOTE=Enlighten Me]Jeez, if that man was still around today Metallica would still be writing their old stuff.[/QUOTE]
Doubt it.
They would've grown with Cliff, the music would be different but I think the style they took wouldn't.

[QUOTE=A7x_theater_88]I actually think the sandman solo is good, like it fits in with the song really well.
Does anyone know how he plays that insane sounding pinch harmonic sorta thing in the master of puppets solo at 5.50-5.53? is that two separate notes?[/QUOTE]
Kirk screwed up :)
He's never been able to make that noise since.

Apocalyptic Raids 05-10-2006 09:31 AM

I think Cliff would have been the first person wanting to progress.

Jev 05-10-2006 09:34 AM

Exactly, he was the one who exposed the band members to other styles of music.

victim of changes 05-10-2006 04:06 PM

Yea probably but it would be good not like the junk of load, and re-load.

PepsiMetal 05-10-2006 04:10 PM

People also started saying Metallica sold out when they signed with Electra, or whatever it was, and Cliff said he doesn't care if people think they sold out or not cause they'll do whatever they want. That's probably how it still would be today, although obviously music would be different.

Jred250 05-10-2006 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=victim of changes]Yea probably but it would be good not like the junk of load, and re-load.[/QUOTE]

Opinions of Load/Reload are all subject to personal opinions. Also to be truthfull if cliff was still in the band I think albums such as Load/Reload would have been more common in the Metallica releases. Cliff played awesome metal/Bass But it was by far not his favourite genre of music. The band only played that music because that is what the demand was for at that current time. Being a musician is more like being a salesman! You have to provide the fans/customers with the music they want. Thats why you have phases of different genres. People liked metal at the time of Metallica's creation.
I think we all have to agree music gets boring after a while. Also you have to think of the bands themselves... I LOVE Metal and nothing but metal! However with my band I played metal so much it was a great change to do a christmas blues/Jazz type song for our local town hall opening. Although I am not a fan of those genres I still much prefered it. Playing the same Rock/Metal Beats and hearing the same heavy metal distortion riffs gets boring after the first 60 gigs! Its nice to change. And I personally believe thats why Metallica changed their musical tastes also.

victim of changes 05-10-2006 08:05 PM

good point but the southern styles was more hetfield than anyone if burton was still there things might have shaped out differently.

kamikaze148 05-11-2006 12:14 AM

yeah i can agree with both of you with the point about cliffs musical direction. i just feel that if he were around today metallica would have taken a different direction...it would have been interesting to see.

i just find it interesting that metallicas downfall came as a result of cliffs death. true fans may deviate from this...but IMO the other albums dont have the same energy as the the 1980's cds. hopefully rob T. brings something new and interesting to metallicas style. a bit hesitant for there new realease tho :confused:


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