ive been drinking vodka tonight. five o'clock, cheap stuff. we actually got a gallon and a half to hold us over for the weekend.

i actually prefer getting high. i dont throw up when im smoking pot, but with alcohol, its always a possibility.

Sorry to intrude on your tight-knit community thread (through searching 'liberi in the search function :() but I noticed a fair amount of negative opinions towards the latest moddings so I thought I should come in and try and make peace. Well defend myself at least. :p

[quote=Cain]I myself have found it slightly odd that four Pit/Site regs have been modded in the past few months--Strum, Liberi, Simple Man, morrissey--and this when Med wasn't even supered (and deserved it, he'd make a great Politics mod), and deserving users such as HeavyRiva haven't been modded at all.[/quote] As far as I know Rock and Metal does not need a mod. Yeah I agree HeavyRiva, Jom and some other guys from here deserve to be a mod (and probably more than me) and when the oppurtunity arises I'll back them 100%.

[quote=Cain]And yet all these people get supered just because they're in the "in" crowd. I dunno. It just seems weird. I've been completely surprised by all of the past four modships, with the exception of Liberi. I am also for morrissey, but not as a super (yet). Simple Man and Strum I just don't get.[/quote] The reason why so many of Jim's pit 'friends' have been modded is because the pit really did need it. When Strum was modded NPC and Burt rarely modded in the pit and it practically went without a moderator. So he stuck Strum in there (who he had never talked to before modding him). I don't know whether all 3 of the latest few were needed, but in the future I believe we will prove our worth.

[quote=Jom]I think that Dan, Moz, and SM are good people, but the logistics of how this happened is, to be frank, a load of crap. SM has a track record of saying he's leaving MX, and then coming back. Considering their histories, they shouldn't have gotten supered right away.[/quote] Yeah I disagree with the super modding as well. I thought I would have deserved a very prolonged moderating position due to my past. But I guess Jim felt we would be of more use as supers and I can see why he superd us.

[quote=Bart]Liberi was the one I was most surprised at, considering his past.[/quote] Fair enough.

[quote=Bartender]To give you an example of how discussion for modship go in the mod forum since DBJ was made an admin and, according to Ken, our "leader".

DBJ: Strum it is then! [I]/me mods Strum[/I] Welcome, Strum!

This isn't anything against Strum by the way, he turned out alright as a mod.[/quote] To be honest that isn't the whole picture, Jim does a lot of background research, talks to all the candidates and gets an idea for the forum before making a final decision.

[quote=Cain]
This is another reason why I don't understand why the users aren't given more credence in the mod selection process. Sure, this isn't a democracy, but users know how they want to be moderated and I think they're usually pretty accurate in their judgement of who would be good.[/quote] I agree with this actually, if a moderator does not get on with the users in his/her local forum then they're not going to do a very good job in there.

[quote=Bartender]He was never malicious or anything like plexi or AmysVerdict, but in the past he's messed around with embedded code in the CD Reviews forum (because some things were siwtched on there that weren't elsewhere), and made/implemented scripts in links to change people's avatars and user titles (to "Liberi is a sex god"). He's also pretty much plexi's closest friend on MX, which, if he weren't a hypocrite, would rule him out for modship in DBJ's mind straight away (DBJ has all but threatened demodding for even talking to plexi before, for example).[/quote] That's pretty much the gist of it. However I haven't talked to plexiglass at all since becoming a moderator, the last time I talked to him it was about his off the internet life.

[quote=ICB]Yeah, I read that...

I defenitely think that thereare some more deserving users, though.[/quote]
No offense or anything but users that frequent different forums will have different views on who is more deserving.

[quote=Lord Abortion]I have never seen Liberi and Simple man post.
If I have, they seem unmemorable to me.[/quote]
Well we are in completely different time zones and don't post in any of the same areas really.

NP: Nobuo Uematsu - Bran Bal, The Soulless Village

Anyway I don't want to stir up trouble so please take my comments with an open mind.

[QUOTE=Liberi](through searching 'liberi in the search function :()[/QUOTE]

Hahahaha, I thought Mozza was the only one that did this when she was bored.

I guess I was wrong, heh :p

[quote=Jom]Hahahaha, I thought Mozza was the only one that did this when she was bored.

I guess I was wrong, heh :p[/quote]
Must suck for you having a 3 letter username. :p

I search for my name far too often it has to be said, and I don't really know why either.

[QUOTE=Liberi]Must suck for you having a 3 letter username. :p

I search for my name far too often it has to be said, and I don't really know why either.[/QUOTE]

Haha. Well, I'm not all that concerned about what people have to say about me in random threads, really.

But hey, if that's the kind of thing that floats your boat, then by all means, set sail, sir.

[quote=Liberi] To be honest that isn't the whole picture, Jim does a lot of background research.[/quote]

By background research, you mean "Consults his AIM friends," right? Hahaha.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]
NP - AFI - This Time Imperfect[/QUOTE]
F-ing awesome song.

Anyways, Dan, don't worry about people's opinions too much unless it's in an area you mod. Unless you're someone's mod it doesn't matter what they think of you. Evidence: Nick.

I think you will make a fine mod Liberi. You always seemed like a good guy anyways. I'm not sure what's up with "your past", but whatever.

NP: Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed

[quote=Jom]Haha. Well, I'm not all that concerned about what people have to say about me in random threads, really.[/quote] I'm not that self-conscious, honest. :(

*checks face for pimples*

[quote=Vince]Anyways, Dan, don't worry about people's opinions too much unless it's in an area you mod. Unless you're someone's mod it doesn't matter what they think of you. Evidence: Nick.[/quote] Sorry but I'm not up to play with this whole mod real name game.

[quote=magicbus]I think you will make a fine mod Liberi. You always seemed like a good guy anyways. I'm not sure what's up with "your past", but whatever.

NP: Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed[/quote]
Cheers. :)

My past is overrated.

/darts back out of thread

[QUOTE=Liberi]
Sorry but I'm not up to play with this whole mod real name game.
[/QUOTE]
Dfelon...if you couldn't extrapolate that :p

Liberi:

I wasn't hoping to have my posts come across as an attack. As I said, you getting modded doesn't really surprise me. And it's not even that I have a problem with the people in question that are being modded (with the exception of Simple Man). It's just that other forums exist besides the Pit, and they get ignored or forced into silence by legions of "we don't need another mod" posts when petitions for additional mods and/or demoddings come up. I can't for the life of me understand why exactly the Pit needs nine moderators and the rest make do with two or three and sometimes one. The Pit is mostly spam, and when taking that into consideration it seems that on average the same amounts of threads get closed and maybe a slightly higher percentage of people get banned. I'm no Pit expert, but that's just my take on it from popping in every day to lurk for a few minutes at a time. I just don't see why that requires the modding of four additional people, who also happen to be DBJ's "friends," when there are people who--in my blunt opinion--deserve it more, and/or could be put to better use in sections where THEY are needed.

But hey, no need to rehash all this. The mod thing itself is not something I feel particularly strong about, it's just an extension of my general problem: the lack of user influence that I feel exists on the forums, which is the main thing that bothers me more than silly mod politics.

Thanks for clearing some of that up though. Good man. :thumb:

So, anybody seen Bram Stoker's Dracula? It's pretty gothic and weird. Not even scary really, although gory sometimes. And the art direction is FANTASTIC.

(First time seeing it BTW, hence the enthusiasm).

[QUOTE=Cain]So, anybody seen Bram Stoker's Dracula? It's pretty gothic and weird. Not even scary really, although gory sometimes. And the art direction is FANTASTIC.

(First time seeing it BTW, hence the enthusiasm).[/QUOTE]

I didn't really like some of the casting choices, but Gary Oldman and Anthony Hopkins were, as usual, brilliant.

And yes, the art direction was beautiful. I thought the story could have been a little better. While more faithful to the book than almost any other adaptation, it still wasn't exactly "Bram Stoker's Dracula" as one would expect.

Personally, I thought it was much truer to the Gothic tradition in the book when the source of Dracula's vampirism was never fully discovered or explained. They simply theorized that it came about the time when Dracula drove the Turks out of the Borgo Pass.

But by describing it as a whole "I renounce God" thing... I don't know, it just sort of lost some of the forboding feeling.

That's what I like to see, an in-depth discussion about alchohol. I can't wait until tomorrow night. Rookie Party!!

I'm thinking for my 21st next month, I'll try a bit of Guiness, and if I'm feeling adventurous, a shot of vodka with a bottle of Jones Soda berry lemonade.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I didn't really like some of the casting choices, but Gary Oldman and Anthony Hopkins were, as usual, brilliant.

And yes, the art direction was beautiful. I thought the story could have been a little better. While more faithful to the book than almost any other adaptation, it still wasn't exactly "Bram Stoker's Dracula" as one would expect.

Personally, I thought it was much truer to the Gothic tradition in the book when the source of Dracula's vampirism was never fully discovered or explained. They simply theorized that it came about the time when Dracula drove the Turks out of the Borgo Pass.

But by describing it as a whole "I renounce God" thing... I don't know, it just sort of lost some of the forboding feeling.[/QUOTE]

The point of the movie seemed to be that art direction anyway. It was so absurdly over-the-top that it was foreboding only in a bizzare way. It was a magnificent visual spectacle, and was low on story consistency and coherency. A lot of the movie proved surprisingly hard to follow. No action, death, or gore scene in that movie is as depraved as the colors used to show it. I mean, the whole palette of the visuals was just sickening opera/gothic madness.

I really liked that. It was really surreal. And that part when Lucy vomits all that blood is pretty nasty too.

What exactly is Guiness? I know of it, but it always confuses me..like is it beer? or what?

Yeah, it's beer.

[QUOTE=Cain]The point of the movie seemed to be that art direction anyway. It was so absurdly over-the-top that it was foreboding only in a bizzare way. It was a magnificent visual spectacle, and was low on story consistency and coherency. A lot of the movie proved surprisingly hard to follow. No action, death, or gore scene in that movie is as depraved as the colors used to show it. I mean, the whole palette of the visuals was just sickening opera/gothic madness.

I really liked that. It was really surreal. And that part when Lucy vomits all that blood is pretty nasty too.[/QUOTE]

Francis Ford Coppola is known for his visual style. He really does an amazing job blending montage and mise-en-scene techiques. If you've seen Apocalypse Now! you know what I'm talking about.

The downfall is that sometimes, the rest of the movie suffers for it. As is the case with Dracula. I mean... let's face it, Keanu Reeves makes a decent action hero, but he's really not a very strong actor. He looked the part of Jonathon Harker, but he was as wooden as ever. He couldn't really come through with the acting job when he had to.

I understand why he was cast. In the book, Harker's rigid English demeanor is supposed to be a stark contrast to the Count's behavior. But overall, well I've made my point.

Don't get me wrong. Copolla is one of my influences as a director. But no movie is perfect.

The Devil's Advocate is probably Keanu's finest acting moment in a mortal vs. Satanic supernatural-type movie. He was indeed a little wooden in this.

[QUOTE=Cain]The Devil's Advocate is probably Keanu's finest acting moment in a mortal vs. Satanic supernatural-type movie. He was indeed a little wooden in this.[/QUOTE]

Would you believe I haven't seen that yet? :upset:

Anyway, as far as the Gothic movement in film, I'd have to say the two most successful efforts thus far were Hitchcock's Psycho and the original Halloween. Excellent examples of the Neo-Gothic wave which followed from a generation that discovered the works of H.P. Lovecraft which had just found their way into regular circulation beyond the pulps.

[QUOTE=blue3]Yeah, it's beer.[/QUOTE]

What's so special about it then? Does it taste different?

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]What's so special about it then? Does it taste different?[/QUOTE]It's Irish or something. How should I know?

[QUOTE=blue3]It's Irish or something. How should I know?[/QUOTE]

Well if you don't know then don't go strutting around as if you do know.:p

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]Well if you don't know then don't go strutting around as if you do know.:p[/QUOTE]I didn't.. I was just trying to answer your question

NP: The Beatles - Across The Universe.

[QUOTE=blue3]I didn't.. I was just trying to answer your question

NP: The Beatles - Across The Universe.[/QUOTE]

/imitates you strutting around as if you know

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]What's so special about it then? Does it taste different?[/QUOTE]
its very dark, brewed in coffee beans, and thick. ive never had it, but some of my friends swear by it.

/commences to strutting because he knows stuff.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]its very dark, brewed in coffee beans, and thick. ive never had it, but some of my friends swear by it.

/commences to strutting because he knows stuff.[/QUOTE]

Coffee beans? That sounds interesting.

/turns on Stayin' Alive to give PinkFreud a classic strutting scene

/cheers

thanks. i need it. my head is killing me already.

damn cheap vodka.

I can't stand vodka, one bad night ruined it forever..

My drink of choice: Crown Royal:)

I wish I could change my username:upset:

1) It's spelt wrong (it's amazing how few have pointed that out/cared)
2) I haven't listened to Metallica in forever
3) :upset:

NP: Rolling Stones- Miss You

yeah...i thought the mispelling was intentional. but ok.

thats a good song. one of my favorites by the stones.