they're better than half the other metalcore fodder i hear

at least

I still enjoy them, fave album was prolly [I]Gutter Phenomenon [/I]honestly

the new black is sooo good

[QUOTE=beans;17619662]they're not that bad tbh[/QUOTE]

Ok but the last two albums fail in comparison to their earlier work.

[QUOTE=Apoc;17619664]Guilty. Most of the bands I'd list as my favorites would probably qualify as 'pretentious.'

Also - New Junk Aesthetic was pretty good and The Big Dirty was awesome, don't know why so many people hate on post-Hot Damn! ETID[/QUOTE]

See above and we all listen to pretentious bands around here.

NJA > big dirty, by far. new junk aesthetic seemed like a complete album, where the big dirty was more like 4-5 songs with the rest being complete filler.

Enough of nooby ETID.

Has anyone heard of Burning Empires, they got a 7inch coming out soon. http://www.myspace.com/burningempiresmilwaukee

From Wiki - "The hardcore/punk band Burning Empires consists of members from Misery Signals and Fall Out Boy and 7 Angels 7 Plagues. Ryan Morgan does the vocals, Kyle Johnson plays bass, Stu Ross and Matthew Mixon play guitar, while Andy Hurley plays the drums."

It's actually pretty good, the vocals sound like a weird mix between Architects and BMTH.

Hot Damn! and Last Night In Town are so much better than that band.

BUT SCENE KIDS LIKE EVERY TIME I DIE, ****.

All the scene kids jocking ETID is what kept me from checking them out earlier tbh. My mistake. :/

Yeah, they rule. I remember how I used to get so much **** in the hardcore forum for liking Every Time I Die, oh how the times have changed.

I don't ever remember people in the hardcore forum disliking them.

EDIT: 'cept dumb ol' me. :/

Scott for one. So glad that dude requested to be banned.

Scott was just too cool for anything.

He asked to be banned lol.

EDIT: read that wrong lol.

New ETID was pretty good I thought. Looking forward to seeing em down here early next year with 50 Lions, Mary jane Kelly and Trap Them (fu ck yes!!)

ETID and Trap Them on the same tour? Damn, that's iller than ETID, Architects, and Oh Sleeper on the same tour.

last time I saw them was last fall, always a goddamn fun time

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17620182]ETID and Trap Them on the same tour? Damn, that's iller than ETID, Architects, and Oh Sleeper on the same tour.[/QUOTE]

Not quite.

agreed. and not because of Oh Sleeper.

[QUOTE=Dimmu Burger;17620614]Not quite.[/QUOTE]

Trap Them is infinitely better than Architects or Oh Sleeper, imo.

either way they are coming down here for a national tour. Awesome.

Yeah, lucky.

I really need to get around to catching Trap Them some time.