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The Transporter 04-21-2010 07:32 AM

[quote=viciouscycle;17937924]Back in 98 it came with word didn't it? That's when the program wasn't obnoxiously poopty like it is now[/quote]
it comes with wordpad and notepad, but not the actual MS Word

Junooni 04-21-2010 09:47 AM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;17937807]Awesome, windows update bricked my non-legit MS Office :( should of thunk[/QUOTE]

if youre planning on getting a new non legit copy sometime soon, just pick up the 2010 beta off office.com, they activate it for you.

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT103875941033

Bruce E Kinesis 04-21-2010 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=Blue_Moon;17937928]i like open office, esp its .pdf exporting function[/QUOTE]

I'm all for open source wherever possible, but MS Word does this too.

AG 04-21-2010 02:09 PM

[IMG]http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww187/aidancowen/Lathe.jpg[/IMG]


So I made a makeshift lathe using a power drill and some threaded steel.

If this is my last post, I died tomorrow in a freak lathing accident.

mnemonic 04-21-2010 04:26 PM

i call his postcount

Left Face Down 04-21-2010 08:09 PM

Dumb question time. Will a Ibanez pedal work with a Engl pre-amp? Specifically the below pre-amp and pedal.

Engl e530 pre-amp:
[url]http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Engl-Tube-Preamp-E-530?sku=481526[/url]

Ibanez IFS4X TBX:
[url]http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-IFS4X-TBX-Tone-Blaster-Xtreme-4Button-Footswitch?sku=481061[/url]


I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. The Ibanez uses a 1/4th jack and that is what the pre-amp specifies. I just ran across that pre-amp tonight and while I haven't done a lot of research on it (read reviews, looked at some youtube videos, read a little of the instruction manual) I am thinking it would be great for the apartment living I'll inevitably be doing once I get a job. It has an input jack for headphones, a built in 2 x 1 5W power amp. I'll just pick up an Avatar cabinet and that pre-amp and I'm set. If I need it in the future I'll pickup a power-amp.

El-Ahrairah 04-21-2010 11:59 PM

Hey LFD, I've been considering the ENGL 530 myself. However, if you can get hold of a Huges and Kettner "Cream Machine" or "Metal Master"

I can very much recommend these. They have a tube preamp stage and also a 5W power amp. Plenty loud, not sufficient for playing with a drum but just right to fiddle for yourself.

Spaceman Spiff 04-22-2010 12:48 AM

I'm kind of turning into a distortion nut. I have a Big Muff and a Tubescreamer, I love using them separately and together, but I think I would feel much better about myself if I had a third. Any ideas?

I'm leaning towards a Rat, but I haven't made any decisions yet.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-22-2010 03:44 AM

you guys are so weird about pedals it's cute

anyway spiff (What's your old username? It's moaner) it depends very much on your amp

AG 04-22-2010 04:42 AM

/didn't die.

Squirrel 04-22-2010 05:06 AM

[QUOTE=AG;17939481][IMG]http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww187/aidancowen/Lathe.jpg[/IMG]


So I made a makeshift lathe using a power drill and some threaded steel.

If this is my last post, I died tomorrow in a freak lathing accident.[/QUOTE]

i'm speechless

AG 04-22-2010 07:19 AM

Obiously not.

Squirrel 04-22-2010 09:11 AM

terrible post

Spaceman Spiff 04-22-2010 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;17941482]you guys are so weird about pedals it's cute

anyway spiff (What's your old username? It's moaner) it depends very much on your amp[/QUOTE]

This has always been my username.

Right now I'm playing through a Vox AD100VT.

The next amp I get will be an all tube combo. Possibly a Twin Reverb, maybe a Traynor, I'm still undecided.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-22-2010 10:07 AM

I'd hold off buying dirt pedals if you're planning to change amps in the near future. It'd be like buying clothes for a girlfriend you haven't met yet in the hope they'll fit.

Spaceman Spiff 04-22-2010 10:23 AM

Hmm?

I've never experienced pedals not sounding good because of the amp.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-22-2010 10:31 AM

then go plug your tubescreamer into a vox ac30

Spaceman Spiff 04-22-2010 10:46 AM

I'm not making the connection as, as far as I know, I've never heard a Tubescreamer through an AC30.

Why do some pedals not sound good through certain amps?

JCBitB 04-22-2010 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;17941784]Why do some pedals not sound good through certain amps?[/QUOTE]

If you are chasing a specific tone, and you're buying your gear with that sound in mind, you probably won't run into issues. If you are just buying gear that someone told you was good and you've always wanted to try, you can find instances where a strength of your pedal is accentuating a weakness in your amp.

For instance, my Rivera Suprema's dirt channel is voiced like a hot rodded marshall. It's 80's metal all the way, complete with the high end sizzle and "spit". If I put a bright pedal in front of it, it's like razors to the eardrum.

For the most part it can be fixed with knob twiddling, but I just prefer to keep bright pedals out of the chain to begin with, and nip the headache in the bud.

oary77 04-22-2010 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;17941755]I'd hold off buying dirt pedals if you're planning to change amps in the near future. It'd be like buying clothes for a girlfriend you haven't met yet in the hope they'll fit.[/QUOTE]

Best analogy ever....

Blue_Moon 04-22-2010 07:31 PM

amps, speakers, trasistors, components, leads, guitars pickups, everything will change the sound

Kuffuffled 04-22-2010 07:58 PM

Or you can be like like chrono.. LAWL AMP IS 90% NO MATTAR WAT

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 04:39 AM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;17941784]I'm not making the connection as, as far as I know, I've never heard a Tubescreamer through an AC30.

Why do some pedals not sound good through certain amps?[/QUOTE]

In that specific example, it's because the AC30 already boosts the mids a lot; that's kinda what that signature AC30 sound represents. The tubescreamer ALSO boosts mids, a lot; and you end up with this ridiculously mid-heavy tone.

Another example is the big muff. It has a very scooped tone, so with a humbuckered guitar into an old-style fender amp, there aren't going to be any mids at all.

There are no settings on a TS that don't boost the mids, and no settings on a stock big muff that don't cut them.

And those are just EQ issues.

EDIT:

Also, if you're actually interested in dirt pedals, learn to build them yourself. You'll be embaressed by what you used to pay when you see what's actually inside some of these boxes, it's extremely rewarding and you very quickly approach a point where you're able to start designing dirts yourself for the sound you want, if you have a fair understanding of electronics.

The Transporter 04-23-2010 07:49 AM

tone is all from the player

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 10:01 AM

Absolute bullshit, but I think you know that

"in the fingers" lol, vibrates between the bridge and the fret and gets hit by the pick, where do fingers come into it

Spaceman Spiff 04-23-2010 10:23 AM

Okay.

Just for reference, I've played a Rat and I know I like what it does, which is why I mentioned it as a possibility.

As far as building my own stuff, I have no idea how I would go about that. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to that kind of thing.

Anyway, I'm not after any specific tone. I'm not really one of those guys. I just want what sounds good to me. As I said, for distortion, I've been making a lot of use of running my pedals separately and together for different sounds, but I feel my setup would be much more complete with one more.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 10:57 AM

Well a rat is a very versatile pedal, between a TS, a rat and a muff you cover a LOT of ground

Especially combining the ts with the muff for more mids

from there tbh the only way to go is to get an EQ pedal and use that to shape your toanz

I have a rat and I'm pretty fond of it

Spaceman Spiff 04-23-2010 11:14 AM

It was J. Mascis that did it to me when I saw Dinosaur Jr. last year. He had several different distortions. Every time you're standing there thinking, "His guitar couldn't get any more distor... OH MY GOD! DID A HELICOPTOR JUST LAND IN HERE?!?"

With just the two I can get some wicked tones, but I just love the combining of different distortions to change the sound, give a boost, etc.

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 11:44 AM

Yeah, it's good fun. I always think it's odd how few users on here used to use pedals. Not br00tz enough i guess.

Spaceman Spiff 04-23-2010 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=Bruce E Kinesis;17943610]Yeah, it's good fun. I always think it's odd how few users on here used to use pedals. Not br00tz enough i guess.[/QUOTE]

I don't have too many pedals, but I've got pretty much all I could want. I really want a wah, though.

I could sell my flanger (because I don't really have any use for it) and pick up a wah and a Rat (or maybe some other one that I haven't even tried out yet) and I think I'd be in pretty good shape.

The Transporter 04-23-2010 12:24 PM

[quote=Bruce E Kinesis;17943367]Absolute bullpoop, but I think you know that

"in the fingers" lol, vibrates between the bridge and the fret and gets hit by the pick, where do fingers come into it[/quote]
pick attack affects tone, how you finger notes affects tone, the way you do vibrato/bendies affects tone, the way you do meedlies affects tone, how you pick/strum affects tone, etc.

for instance, whenever i do straight fast rhythms, to get a unique sound, i bash the hell out of the strings using the pick and the sides of my fingers. sure my fingers may bleed, but i like the sound i get doing it that way. when my co-guitarist plays the same progression, through my setup, sounds completely different. probably because he doesn't do the bashiddies

i'm not saying your equipment doesn't affect what you sound like, but regardless of setup, if you have your own style, it should still be apparent no matter what you play through

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 01:13 PM

That might be true if there were a whole rainbow of ways to pick but there are about 5 and one of them is prohibitively painful

Whereas there are hundreds of types of guitar and thousands of types of amp

If your coguitarist chose to risk his fingernails in the way you describe it'd sound the same

fingers mccoy 04-23-2010 01:19 PM

[QUOTE=The Transporter;17943708]pick attack affects tone, how you finger notes affects tone, the way you do vibrato/bendies affects tone, the way you do meedlies affects tone, how you pick/strum affects tone, etc.

for instance, whenever i do straight fast rhythms, to get a unique sound, i bash the hell out of the strings using the pick and the sides of my fingers. sure my fingers may bleed, but i like the sound i get doing it that way. when my co-guitarist plays the same progression, through my setup, sounds completely different. probably because he doesn't do the bashiddies

i'm not saying your equipment doesn't affect what you sound like, but regardless of setup, if you have your own style, it should still be apparent no matter what you play through[/QUOTE]

on a fretted instrument how you finger notes does not affect tone, just pitch

pick velocity is pretty much the only other thing the player can do that affects tone in electric guitar unless you're using your hands or a bow or w/e

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 01:41 PM

I dunno man, you gotta look at close up shots of hendrix and get your nails the same length if you want that TRUE hendrix tone

Hardly anything to do with the cranked marshall and the fuzz face

Bruce E Kinesis 04-23-2010 01:45 PM

That actually reminds me of a joke

A man walks into a guitar shop looking for a fuzz face to sound like hendrix

and the dude in the shop says "well, reissues are useless. If you want that true hendrix tone, you need to use authentic 40 year old germanium transistors + components. We have one here, it's £350"

and the guy says

"where did hendrix get hold of 40 year old transistors?"

The Transporter 04-23-2010 01:54 PM

pick velocity is pretty much the only other thing the player can do that affects tone in electric guitar unless you're using your hands or a bow or w/e[/quote]
i was using "tone" more along the lines of "overall sound". but ya

fingers mccoy 04-23-2010 02:09 PM

no, i get what you mean, vibrato makes a big difference. also that sound you get from twatting the strings really hard might actually be pitch-related, seeing as anything in excess of a certain force is just gonna displace the string to the point of it being out of tune

Squirrel 04-23-2010 02:16 PM

do you live in york or go to york uni

fingers mccoy 04-23-2010 02:45 PM

york uni

i only go back down to london for very brief periods

Squirrel 04-23-2010 02:47 PM

for ****s sake ****ing southerners coming up here to steal our resources


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