heh, sure man. The claws might be tricky, so you might want to freehand that part. I accidently clicked back there and made the stencil before I noticed how old it was, but I'm glad you still have a use for it.

Point one: Walking home today I found this awesome bike. It's a classic banana seat bike! Just what I've always wanted. It's not in the best of shape (no pedals, flat tires...) but I'm still planning on getting it for my tall bike project.

Point two: today I went to a school GSA meeting at school, and they were talking about designing shirts for the day of silence. Basically, we're going to make our own, and we decided that stenciling would be a great way to go. We're all trying to think up designs, and I was wondering if any of you had any good stencilable designs representing the day of silence?

[QUOTE=asdf]Point one: Walking home today I found this awesome bike. It's a classic banana seat bike! Just what I've always wanted. It's not in the best of shape (no pedals, flat tires...) but I'm still planning on getting it for my tall bike project.

Point two: today I went to a school GSA meeting at school, and they were talking about designing shirts for the day of silence. Basically, we're going to make our own, and we decided that stenciling would be a great way to go. We're all trying to think up designs, and I was wondering if any of you had any good stencilable designs representing the day of silence?[/QUOTE]
Day of silence, eh? That really does sound intruiging. I guess you could have a picture of something that represents noise or even unrest ( such as someone shouting with lines coming out of their mouths to show sound or something) inside a circle that has a line through it, like a street sign or something and then with a slogan underneath. Or even a picture or someone smiling or looking happy with their mouths closed that could represent silence with a slogan underneath?

[QUOTE=asdf]Point one: Walking home today I found this awesome bike. It's a classic banana seat bike! Just what I've always wanted. It's not in the best of shape (no pedals, flat tires...) but I'm still planning on getting it for my tall bike project.

Point two: today I went to a school GSA meeting at school, and they were talking about designing shirts for the day of silence. Basically, we're going to make our own, and we decided that stenciling would be a great way to go. We're all trying to think up designs, and I was wondering if any of you had any good stencilable designs representing the day of silence?[/QUOTE]

I have two suggestions:

For the design, how about "Better A Wise Mute Than A Loud Fool" as the slogan fior Lukeh's idea.

For the method, I suggest investing in a silk-screen and screen-printing it. It is much faster and cheaper to do big loads of shirts if you screen-print, and it also looks more professional and has a better quality.

[QUOTE=coheneran]I have two suggestions:

For the design, how about "Better A Wise Mute Than A Loud Fool" as the slogan fior Lukeh's idea.

For the method, I suggest investing in a silk-screen and screen-printing it. It is much faster and cheaper to do big loads of shirts if you screen-print, and it also looks more professional and has a better quality.[/QUOTE]
Everyone at the meeting was pretty excited about the stencil idea. I mean the last two years they were hand-drawn shirts (same with national coming out day) so this would be a step up.

I tried copying the logo for this year, but it just doesn't look right.

So far I've created this:
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/asdf23/Stencils/dayofsilence.jpg[/url]
The only problem with that is it would have to be on a white shirt, while we wanted to print white on black shirts.

[QUOTE=asdf]Everyone at the meeting was pretty excited about the stencil idea. I mean the last two years they were hand-drawn shirts (same with national coming out day) so this would be a step up.

I tried copying the logo for this year, but it just doesn't look right.

So far I've created this:
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/asdf23/dayofsilence.jpg[/url]
The only problem with that is it would have to be on a white shirt, while we wanted to print white on black shirts.[/QUOTE]

That's pretty cool, but it could look so much cooler with more details. Seriously, you only have to make one screen and you can use it over and over hundreds and hundreds of times. It means you can put so much detail in. My screen-printing friend made this:

[url]http://www.openspace32.de/noid/pics/hkmp7-1.jpg[/url]

He's also made pictures of local squats, along with every single window and line on the building:

[url]http://www.openspace32.de/noid/pics/screenprint_gelb.jpg[/url]

That's the squat where we make the prints. There's a print of that squat but without the text. Seriously, it's worth screen-printing.

Why can't you have black shirts?

[QUOTE=coheneran]That's pretty cool, but it could look so much cooler with more details. Seriously, you only have to make one screen and you can use it over and over hundreds and hundreds of times. It means you can put so much detail in. My screen-printing friend made this:

[url]http://www.openspace32.de/noid/pics/hkmp7-1.jpg[/url]

He's also made pictures of local squats, along with every single window and line on the building:

[url]http://www.openspace32.de/noid/pics/screenprint_gelb.jpg[/url]

That's the squat where we make the prints. There's a print of that squat but without the text. Seriously, it's worth screen-printing.

Why can't you have black shirts?[/QUOTE]
Our budget just can't affort screen printing, although I just might invest in it someday.

And we could use black shirts, just not really with that design I drew just now, because it needs a white background. I guess a white background could be painted first, but I tried that befure and it was... unsuccessful.

[QUOTE=asdf]Our budget just can't affort screen printing, although I just might invest in it someday.

And we could use black shirts, just not really with that design I drew just now, because it needs a white background. I guess a white background could be painted first, but I tried that befure and it was... unsuccessful.[/QUOTE]

You've never thought of using white paint?

[QUOTE=coheneran]You've never thought of using white paint?[/QUOTE]
It just looks kind of weird inverted. Sure, it could be done. I don't know, though. I've still got to consult the rest of the GSA, and I've got time to come up with plenty of designs.

What's the Day of Silence for anyway?

[url]http://www.dayofsilence.org/about/history.php[/url]

It's so f[SIZE="2"]ucking[/SIZE] stupid. I recognize it as a demonstration of solidarity, but it's symbolism is crap. To create an equal environment for LGBTs we need to shut up for a day? It's a good sign of solidarity with the LGBT community, but having a National Day Of Beating Up Homophobes would be much more practical. Just kidding, but there could be much more done than just keeping quiet for a day. How about a demonstration outside an openly homophobic institution? Or walking around in drag? Handing out informational fliers about homosexuality (for the homophobes) or how to deal with homophobes (for the LGBTs)? Sorry if insulted you...:)

It's better than doing nothing at all.

i participated in the day of silence at my school last year, and all that accomplished was that people called me a fag and threw stuff at me, even though they knew i wasnt gay.

i dont think one day of not talking is going to get anything done

[QUOTE=coheneran]It's so f[SIZE="2"]ucking[/SIZE] stupid. I recognize it as a demonstration of solidarity, but it's symbolism is crap. To create an equal environment for LGBTs we need to shut up for a day? It's a good sign of solidarity with the LGBT community, but having a National Day Of Beating Up Homophobes would be much more practical. Just kidding, but there could be much more done than just keeping quiet for a day. How about a demonstration outside an openly homophobic institution? Or walking around in drag? Handing out informational fliers about homosexuality (for the homophobes) or how to deal with homophobes (for the LGBTs)? Sorry if insulted you...:)[/QUOTE]
Well, the description on the site was pretty bad. the GSA does a bunch more for the LGBT community, and the day of silence is just part of it. It's more to represent gays who have to remain silent because of what they'll face if they come out, or if they have what they have faced because of it. It's a sign of respect for people who have faced danger for what they are. It's just something that shows we care about it.

And I agree, there's much more that can be done. Kind of why I don't go to GSA meetings very often. For one, the school I go to isn't all that homophobic, so our GSA really doesn't do anything. If there was a reason for it, I would be at every meeting.

[QUOTE=asdf]Well, the description on the site was pretty bad. the GSA does a bunch more for the LGBT community, and the day of silence is just part of it. It's more to represent gays who have to remain silent because of what they'll face if they come out, or if they have what they have faced because of it. It's a sign of respect for people who have faced danger for what they are. It's just something that shows we care about it.

And I agree, there's much more that can be done. Kind of why I don't go to GSA meetings very often. For one, the school I go to isn't all that homophobic, so our GSA really doesn't do anything. If there was a reason for it, I would be at every meeting.[/QUOTE]
at my school, the GSA never accomplished anything, and was just a social club. The school thought that if they didn't give the gay community this "club", then the gay community would threaten lawsuit.

[quote=_JR]i participated in the day of silence at my school last year, and all that accomplished was that people called me a fag and threw stuff at me, even though they knew i wasnt gay.

i dont think one day of not talking is going to get anything done[/quote]

This is all I see ever coming from it.

[QUOTE=D & V]at my school, the GSA never accomplished anything, and was just a social club. The school thought that if they didn't give the gay community this "club", then the gay community would threaten lawsuit.[/QUOTE]
That's stupid. At least ours was put together by students.
[QUOTE=RudeBoyStompin]It's more like the politically correct club rather than the Gay-Straight Alliance.[/QUOTE]
I feel the same way. Which is why I'm not all that involved in it. This was the first meeting I went to this school year, and that's because some friends of mine run it, and saw me walking by the classroom afterschool.

High school clubs accomplish nothing, when will they realize this?

Not true at all Nick. The NSA(Newport Skateboarding Association) that I am involved in, has nearly got a skatepark in our town. We have the piece of land and are currently doing fundraisers and everything we've done has been done by teenagers.

[quote=Rise Me Up]Not true at all Nick. The NSA(Newport Skateboarding Association) that I am involved in, has nearly got a skatepark in our town. We have the piece of land and are currently doing fundraisers and everything we've done has been done by teenagers.[/quote]

Was it organized within the high school with approval from the adminstration or was it organized outside the school by a group of teenagers? There is a difference.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Was it organized within the high school with approval from the adminstration or was it organized outside the school by a group of teenagers? There is a difference.[/QUOTE]

Initially it was outside of school but it was hard for everyone to meet so we started having meetings in school in the auditorium in the mornings, then it was formed to a full fledged group in school.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]High school clubs accomplish nothing, when will they realize this?[/QUOTE]

It's not always about accomplishing something fully noticeable, it has more to do with raising awareness, and moving towards a large general goal.

[quote=Rise Me Up]Initially it was outside of school but it was hard for everyone to meet so we started having meetings in school in the auditorium in the mornings, then it was formed to a full fledged group in school.[/quote]

Holding meetings in the school =/= high school club.

I'm talking clubs that were organized by students who then had to find an advisor, then get permission from the school to form their club and hold meetings. They also have to clear everything they do with the school administration.

[quote=ThievesandBastards]It's not always about accomplishing something fully noticeable, it has more to do with raising awareness, and moving towards a large general goal.[/quote]

I've never seen a high school club even accomplsh that. The ones that try to be political (like the GSA) just attract people who are already aware of the issue, and things like the day of silence really only bring more negative attitudes towards the group and sympathizers

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]Holding meetings in the school =/= high school club.

I'm talking clubs that were organized by students who then had to find an advisor, then get permission from the school to form their club and hold meetings. They also have to clear everything they do with the school administration.



I've never seen a high school club even accomplsh that. The ones that try to be political (like the GSA) just attract people who are already aware of the issue, and things like the day of silence really only bring more negative attitudes towards the group and sympathizers[/QUOTE]

Well I had never heard of the GSA, LGBT, or the Day of Silence before now, and now I know, so that's raising awareness right there.


Technically, it's not a school club doing it, but it's kind of the same.

What does LGBT stand for?

Lesbian Gay Bi Transexual (?)

[quote=me likes punk]What does LGBT stand for?[/quote]
[quote=Skrunnch]Lesbian Gay Bi Trangendered[/quote]
^^^

Ok coo, is there a set date?

and to asdf you could use white acrylic paint for the black shirts

ASDF (lol, assdef), you should form a Queeruption branch in your highschool. They're so much cooler.
[url]www.queeruption.org[/url] or .com or .net or something.

Gay Pride Parade is in Israel this August, and Queeruption are organising a Queeruption parade in Tel-Aviv to counter it. I don't know why, but a queer radicalist parade is better than a queer cheese-shop owner parade.

use grey on black

how does a silk screen and press cost? used- new...?

The way I usually defended gay people at school was to hit anyone who bagged on my gay friends. That worked for me.

I vote nay to violence.

[QUOTE=me likes punk]I vote nay to violence.[/QUOTE]

What about violence that reduces the overall level of violence in the world? Hypothetically, an act of terrorism that killed the whole of the G8 would diminish violence in the world, surely that's something you would support?

This wasn't a political statement, this was a "you fuc'k with my friends you f'uck with me" statement. However, I do agree with Eran, violence is an essential tool in social change. Hippies forget this, and terrorists forget the other tools, and the violence has to be 1. Perfectly targetted and 2. The last resort.

[QUOTE=coheneran]What about violence that reduces the overall level of violence in the world? Hypothetically, an act of terrorism that killed the whole of the G8 would diminish violence in the world, surely that's something you would support?[/QUOTE]

That's a little different, but I still wouldn't support that.

[QUOTE=coheneran]What about violence that reduces the overall level of violence in the world? Hypothetically, an act of terrorism that killed the whole of the G8 would diminish violence in the world, surely that's something you would support?[/QUOTE]
Don't turn to the dark side, man. I'm sure you know very well that there are other ways to stop the violent/exploitative actions of the G8 without killing anyone, it's just that everyone's way too alienated(sp?) and lazy to do that though and violence will just alienate people's views of everything even more. We know it's not right by any means, but as you've said yourself, these things take time. Not even Utilarianism supports "violence to reduce violence overall".


Anyway, on a more DIY note, I made a Radiohead t-shirt and my friends made me a cool book about me for my birthday in the style of a 'zine I like to read. Pics will be posted as soon as I dig out my camera.

[QUOTE=RIP Ian Curtis]This wasn't a political statement, this was a "you fuc'k with my friends you f'uck with me" statement.[/QUOTE]
No offence to you particularly, but I hate when people say things like this. There's no difference between politics and real life. If what you believe in and what you do are separate things, it's not called politics. It's called hypocrisy.

I'm anti-violent by the way. Sure, an act of violence could decrease the amount of violence in the world, but there are still better ways.

[QUOTE=Lukeh]Don't turn to the dark side, man. I'm sure you know very well that there are other ways to stop the violent/exploitative actions of the G8 without killing anyone, it's just that everyone's way too alienated(sp?) and lazy to do that though and violence will just alienate people's views of everything even more. We know it's not right by any means, but as you've said yourself, these things take time. Not even Utilarianism supports "violence to reduce violence overall".


Anyway, on a more DIY note, I made a Radiohead t-shirt and my friends made me a cool book about me for my birthday in the style of a 'zine I like to read. Pics will be posted as soon as I dig out my camera.[/QUOTE]
My brother's girlfriend made this nice scrap book thing for his birthday a year ago, I thought that was so nice. :)

My latest DIY projects have been a Specials shirt and an Adicts shirt. I'll post pictures later.