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rustydrummer 05-23-2006 04:28 AM

I have about 180 to 200 pounds sterling to spend on hi hats and I have been sniffing around Zildjian K customs as I hear good things about them. I have a 15" K custom fast crash which I love and a 18" K custom special dry crash which I cant get the best out of. The K custom range seems to be pretty neat. I play a bit of rock and metal mostly but also play various other types. My favourite drummer however is Chad Smith and I noticed that he uses AA Sabians and I like the sound that he gets from them. Can anyone give me advice what I should do I can get the Sabian AA rock hi hats for about 180 and if I spend slightly over the 200 I can pick up some Zildjian K or K custom hi hats. my brain is shattered trying to evaluate each ones for what i use etc

HeLLmO 05-23-2006 04:49 AM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Im thinking something along the lines of K Mastersounds. Whatever it is it has to be mastersound/soundedge/whatever cause ska uses a lot of foot-hat work.[/QUOTE]

yea, i was definatly thinkin' 13'' brilliant K Mastersounds

Aaron 05-23-2006 05:12 AM

13" K Custom Special Dry Top/13" K Custom Mastersound Bottom; dry and tight.

We_Love_Lime 05-23-2006 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=rustydrummer]I have about 180 to 200 pounds sterling to spend on hi hats and I have been sniffing around Zildjian K customs as I hear good things about them. I have a 15" K custom fast crash which I love and a 18" K custom special dry crash which I cant get the best out of. The K custom range seems to be pretty neat. I play a bit of rock and metal mostly but also play various other types. My favourite drummer however is Chad Smith and I noticed that he uses AA Sabians and I like the sound that he gets from them. Can anyone give me advice what I should do I can get the Sabian AA rock hi hats for about 180 and if I spend slightly over the 200 I can pick up some Zildjian K or K custom hi hats. my brain is shattered trying to evaluate each ones for what i use etc[/QUOTE]

He uses AA-Xcelerators does he not?

Yeah he also has his own custom crash cymbals, but your looking for high hats.

Meh...

rustydrummer 05-23-2006 08:44 AM

I read on a chad smith website that it was Sabian AA just, perhaps you are right, if anyone else can clear this up it would be much appreciatd. The website i seen it on was not a official website for chad so the info could be wrong.

HeLLmO 05-23-2006 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron]13" K Custom Special Dry Top/13" K Custom Mastersound Bottom; dry and tight.[/QUOTE]

sweet, i'll look into those

HeLLmO 05-23-2006 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime]He uses AA-Xcelerators does he not?

Yeah he also has his own custom crash cymbals, but your looking for high hats.

Meh...[/QUOTE]


i think chad is using AAX fusion hats these days though. i don't think sabian updates their site too often

terry_bozzio_wanna_be 05-23-2006 05:46 PM

what would be suitable (preferably from the sabian line) replacements for a 16" paiste singature full crash and a 16" paiste singature power crash, and yes i know they are completly different types of cymbals, but what are the closest sounding cymbals iu can get (again, preferably from the sabian line, but zildjian ok too)

We_Love_Lime 05-24-2006 06:40 AM

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]i think chad is using AAX fusion hats these days though. i don't think sabian updates their site too often[/QUOTE]

Heh I wouldn't know.

RHCP Guru ;).

HeLLmO 05-24-2006 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime]Heh I wouldn't know.

RHCP Guru ;).[/QUOTE]

haha. not really. i get my info from [url]www.chad-smith.net[/url]

terry_bozzio_wanna_be 05-24-2006 03:58 PM

[QUOTE=terry_bozzio_wanna_be]what would be suitable (preferably from the sabian line) replacements for a 16" paiste singature full crash and a 16" paiste singature power crash, and yes i know they are completly different types of cymbals, but what are the closest sounding cymbals iu can get (again, preferably from the sabian line, but zildjian ok too)[/QUOTE]

???

HeLLmO 05-24-2006 04:12 PM

look at sabian HHX maybe? like an HHX Stage Crash and an HHX Studio Crash, or an HHX stage crash and an HHXplosion crash

2112th post-dig that all my rush fans out there

Time 05-24-2006 06:51 PM

how are paiste 2002 heavy hi hats? i found a pair on ebay for $40.

HeLLmO 05-24-2006 07:06 PM

buy 'em now

enishi 05-27-2006 02:28 AM

hey im confused, i just ordered 20" K heavy ride for 279.95$ to massmusic.net but they emailed me i must add addtional 120$ for shipping because they cant ship here in the philippines unless i pay 120$ so total of 399.95$ O_O
in our local music store theres no K heavy existing.
im thinking of another way, i went to our local store and i saw this 22" paragon ride for 310$ and 20" K custom dark ride, its washy and i think i dont like it.,AAX stage ride. not sure about this. now im confused for what im going to buy,

is it worth if i go to K heavy or just go get the paragon ride? or other?
i like the sound of paragon ride too buy i think the bell is pretty loud,is it?it might cover some.
what u think guys?

Tim 05-27-2006 04:01 AM

go for the paragon. you wont be dissapointed. its a nice heavy ride. that things awesome.

weed_makes_me_faster 05-27-2006 04:06 AM

i like the stage ride better, but if you were going for a K heavy, then Paragon is just as good.

enishi 05-27-2006 04:29 AM

[QUOTE=weed_makes_me_faster]i like the stage ride better, but if you were going for a K heavy, then Paragon is just as good.[/QUOTE]


sorry sorry what i meant is studio ride. sorry.:chug:

enishi 05-27-2006 04:34 AM

[QUOTE=Tim]go for the paragon. you wont be dissapointed. its a nice heavy ride. that things awesome.[/QUOTE]

im afraid the bell would be too loud.. is it? well i better try it myself but before they get it im must pay half for its price WTF!!:smash: how can i test it?? pls help guys!!i need opinios!

weed_makes_me_faster 05-27-2006 04:38 AM

OK.........
my final decision on cymbals... kinda.
Sabian AA 13'' regular hats!!! YES! you can't stop me!!!

so the ride part confuses me....
Meinl Amun 20'' medium ride
or
Sabian AAX 20'' stage ride

enishi 05-27-2006 04:59 AM

stage ride

HeLLmO 05-27-2006 05:31 AM

if u want a ride u can crash get the 21'' stage ride, because it owns the 20'' in everyway, but if u don't crash your ride, get the Amun, simply amazing rides. i have one and i love it to death

weed_makes_me_faster 05-27-2006 05:40 AM

i liked the 20'' better it had a bit more wash, the 21'' was a bit too pingy for my taste, yeah i do crash my ride and the 20'' was crashable, but the problem is - Meinl in one shop, Sabian in another, so that sucks.

Rilez 05-27-2006 02:22 PM

Ride
 
I want a ride with great ping and definition with minimal overtones. Thanks.

Drum Phil 05-27-2006 02:26 PM

22" Sabian Paragon
20" Zildjian A Earth Ride

Tim 05-27-2006 05:30 PM

go with the paragon. that things awesome. i picked an AA raw bell dry ride over it though. :D

Tim 05-27-2006 05:31 PM

[QUOTE=enishi]im afraid the bell would be too loud.. is it? well i better try it myself but before they get it im must pay half for its price WTF!!:smash: how can i test it?? pls help guys!!i need opinios![/QUOTE]

i dunno. download some of the anatomy of a drum solo clips from drummer world or soemthing. he uses that ride. durh. :D

HeLLmO 05-27-2006 07:05 PM

[QUOTE=Rilez]I want a ride with great ping and definition with minimal overtones. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

i'd get the paragon. but the earth ride is good too. sounds great if u beat the **** out of it

enishi 05-27-2006 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=Tim]i dunno. download some of the anatomy of a drum solo clips from drummer world or soemthing. he uses that ride. durh. :D[/QUOTE]

i believe its the RUSH neil peart he uses on that?

HeLLmO 05-28-2006 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=enishi]i believe its the RUSH neil peart he uses on that?[/QUOTE]


on Anatomy Neil is usin' his Paragon, but don't watch the Work in Progress one or w.e it is called because he is using his A Custom(or Brilliant A???) ride in that video


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