[QUOTE=SimonCore]What would you class them as then?[/QUOTE]
They're fast but they're not shred.

The Black album was where Metallica backed away from thrash and took quite a few people by surprise, now what would really make my day would be a return to true thrash/speed, not how they attempted to go back to their roots with St. Anger.

OK....folks, Thats NOT what they were doing with "..Anger". It was really 2 things: James comin back from therapy, and Bob tryin to be different and srewin around with Pro-tools....I am positive anything they write with Rob will be wayyyy better....and the fact that we got Rick Rubin workin in there!!! YEaahhhh!!!.....only downside, there not playin the U.S. til '07 prolly. I'm 19 and still haven't seen em! I will finally see BLS and everybody at Ozzfest!!! ROCK ON!!!

I just bought that Jump in The Fire/Creeping Death EP, because I heard it's very rare. So yeah, I got it! And I'm seeing the 'tallica live tomorrow! Oh YEAH!

yea Rob should be a great influence.

and ive seen kirk shred on videos, and i think the question was whether he could, not whether he does. but it don't matter. his solos kick ***

Kirk's just as good as any guitarist that [I]does[/I] shred. Which he can anyway!

[QUOTE=enter natman]yea Rob should be a great influence.

and ive seen kirk shred on videos, and i think the question was whether he could, not whether he does. but it don't matter. his solos kick ***[/QUOTE]
I'll abstain from this. But I have to say when people praise Kirk as one of the greatest guitarists it makes me a little bit frustrated.

Kirk can shred kirk, makes great solos, and he is a great guitarist. :cool:

[QUOTE=Happy]I'll abstain from this. But I have to say when people praise Kirk as one of the greatest guitarists it makes me a little bit frustrated.[/QUOTE]

Yeah me too, but that doesn't deny that he can't shred!

Kirk is a standard thrash guitarist now, nothing more. Does he sweep pick? Does he not abuse his wah pedal every song? Does he use any other scales than the pentatonic scale?

Ozzfest's lineup blows. I'm not going to pay $95/person to see Strapping and Lacuna and then a bunch of garbage, and I don't even know if Strapping would play my date since they're on a "rotating slot", whatevertf that means

[QUOTE=vashts80]Kirk is a standard thrash guitarist now, nothing more. Does he sweep pick? Does he not abuse his wah pedal every song? Does he use any other scales than the pentatonic scale?

Ozzfest's lineup blows. I'm not going to pay $95/person to see Strapping and Lacuna and then a bunch of garbage, and I don't even know if Strapping would play my date since they're on a "rotating slot", whatevertf that means[/QUOTE]



Errr, theres a bunch of guitarists that use the Pentatonic scale.

Sounds catchy, if you weren't so techincal, you wouldnt even notice. :)

[QUOTE=enter natman]Kirk can shred kirk, makes great solos, and he is a great guitarist. :cool:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, great solos, pentatonic abuse... Whatever does it for you, I guess.

[QUOTE=Am I Evil?]Errr, theres a bunch of guitarists that use the Pentatonic scale.[/QUOTE]
That's [b]ALL[/b] he uses...

He is seriously a fairly average guitarist, he does what he can do (i.e. Pentatonic/Wah Abuse) well, but never branches out and tries anything new.

2nd page? Wtf?

[QUOTE=Chu]Yeah, great solos, pentatonic abuse... Whatever does it for you, I guess.


That's [b]ALL[/b] he uses...

He is seriously a fairly average guitarist, he does what he can do (i.e. Pentatonic/Wah Abuse) well, but never branches out and tries anything new.[/QUOTE]

One thing Megadeth always had on Metallica was lead playing. Kirk is a decent player, but Marty Friedman dominates him in every way.

[QUOTE=lionelhutz88]One thing Megadeth always had on Metallica was lead playing. Kirk is a decent player, but Marty Friedman dominates him in every way.[/QUOTE]



Eww..


Opinion, ftw?


I personally find Martys playing dull. Hes decent, skillwise, thats for sure.

Kirk's playing fits the music I guess, but I can almost always predict his next note. Friedman's playing, especially on Rust in Peace, was phenomenal. His solos are the highlights of that album, and he took megadeth to the next level musically.

I like kirk's playing. Especially in songs like FTB where the solos just sorta fade in and out while jamas plays rhythm. It fits perfectly. Some of kirk's solos are annoying, like they just jump in, out of the blue, and doesn't really fit as well. But most of them fit the songs quite good.

I'm not really a megadeth fan, so I don't know/care if their lead guitarist is better or worse especially since they change their musicians often.

Kirk's playing was best on AJFA probably. His solos became pretty bland on the Black album, although wherever I may roam has one of his best solos. I can't listen to Megadeth past Rust in Peace, but Friedman's playing is superb on that album. Him and Skolnick were my favorite thrash guitarists.

I'd say MOP has Kirk's best solos

Kirk is an average metal guitarist. There are dozens of better guitarists out there.

irrelevant. there isn't one guitarist out there who would suit Metallica better, and that's all that matters.

[QUOTE=Am I Evil?]I personally find Martys playing [B]dull[/B]. Hes decent, skillwise, thats for sure.[/QUOTE]
And Kirk's playing isn't?

im sorry, i dont see how either of you came to any such conclusion about either artist. they both create fantastic music, and their sounds is iconic thrash.

[I]My Friend of Misery = Fu[/I][I]cking Masterpiece. Amirite?[/I]

Haha I just raised Fuel's key by a half-step. It almost sounds Black-albumish now :D

[QUOTE=ever eeking always rupert][I]My Friend of Misery = Fu[/I][I]cking Masterpiece. Amirite?[/I][/QUOTE]
you are. the whole album is a masterpiece.

[QUOTE=ever eeking always rupert]Haha I just raised Fuel's key by a half-step. It almost sounds Black-albumish now :D[/QUOTE]
now that could be interesting

I've now listening to Unforgiven II a half step up. Very interesting stuff. A nice fresh way of listening to it too

lol how do you step it up then? i thought you meant you were playing it on geetar half a step up.

Well I went into control panel, then sound, speech and audio devices, and then "Sound Effects Manager". In this thing I can cancel the voice out, raise and drop the key by 4 half steps, and a load of other stuff. I don't know if this "Sound Effects Manager" comes standard with every computer, how I got I don't know, but it's here to stay :)

wow nice i wasn't aware you could do that. propably because i cant, i dunno if its on my computer.