A mix with your kitty and a mentos commercial.

No, pale force is fine, my videos got horrible.

What kind of bass was that in the second video?

It's just a driftwood P, you can have it for $50 if you want. :p

Morning all

hey hobbes

[quote=HELLonWHEELS;13512182]hey hobbes[/quote]


Heya HoW

whats up?

[quote=HELLonWHEELS;13512349]whats up?[/quote]

Just researching truss rods and the correct way to install them.

Also plotting how I am going to put together a 7 piece laminate neck.

Was thinking of the following


B = Bubinga
W = Wenge


|B|W|B|W|B|W|B|



I have the wenge pretty much sorted and the bubinga is still in rough cut form so it needs some finishing.

This time I am going to do it right and not rush it whatsoever.

Going to do two pieces at a time with the gluing and give them each 24 hours to dry and make damn sure they are glued up right.

I remeber reading someplace that wenge is nice un-finished and i don't really know about bubingia. How are you going to finish it?

[quote=HELLonWHEELS;13512368]I remeber reading someplace that wenge is nice un-finished and i don't really know about bubingia. How are you going to finish it?[/quote]


I am wanting to go the oil route, i.e. a Danish Oil finish which is pretty much tung oil with one or two other types mixed in for good measure.

So that would be good for the body, headstock and maybe the fingerboard.
But for the neck I will wait as see how the oil finish shapes up and then decide whether I will use it on the neck or give it a light oiling with some burmesse teak oil and then let the oil from my hand maintain it.

I like the unfinished warwick necks, hence that idea.

Are you sure your neck will be smooth enough to be unfinished? I assuming you will give it at least some kind of high polished buffing job or something like that.

[quote=HELLonWHEELS;13512380]Are you sure your neck will be smooth enough to be unfinished? I assuming you will give it at least some kind of high polished buffing job or something like that.[/quote]


You assume correct, I will be sanding that think with op to 1200 grit sandpaper and higher if I can find it.

howdy all :wave:

[quote=funkyhoney;13512398]howdy all :wave:[/quote]


Good morning

Halogens or HID conversion?

[QUOTE=ebe9;13512427]Good morning[/QUOTE]

howdy.. and it afternoon here :p


i was thinking another thing also, and i assume you can help as you know a lot about everything :smoke:

ok, so i've got my 450watt head, and a 500w 2x10, if i was to buy a 2x12 as well. would i be better off (as in, louder, better sound quality) if i just ran the 2x12 without keeping the 2x10 in the loop and underpowering them both?

[quote=funkyhoney;13512435]howdy.. and it afternoon here :p


i was thinking another thing also, and i assume you can help as you know a lot about everything :smoke:

ok, so i've got my 450watt head, and a 500w 2x10, if i was to buy a 2x12 as well. would i be better off (as in, louder, better sound quality) if i just ran the 2x12 without keeping the 2x10 in the loop and underpowering them both?[/quote]


To quote edge, "Watts does NOT equal volume".

I got that drilled into me as a result of his posts.



Basically you need to look at the surface area of the speakers.

In your case 2X12 is going to have more surface area than a 2X10, thus meaning it will move more air and might seem "louder"

Just remeber that in order to double ones volume you need to increase the original figure by 3dB, in simple terms times it by 10.

So in order to double the potential "volume" of a 100W's you will need 1000W's becasue the equation is exponential, i.e. squared.


Just give me the exact specs of you amp and both the cabs. Wattage and their ohm rating would be useful.

head is 450watts at 1x4 ohms or 2x8 ohms

the cabs handeling is 500w and impedance is 8ohms

i don't have another cab yet, but lets say i get a 500w 8ohm 2x12



does this mean my current setup 450 head into 8 ohm cab would only be using half of the maximum wattage?
and if i got another 8ohm cab it would be using the whole 450watts?


basically i just want to know if i get another cab if it will make me louder and handle alright or will be pushing the head to far.

[quote=funkyhoney;13512469][B]head is 450watts at 1x4 ohms or 2x8 ohms[/B]

the cabs handeling is 500w and impedance is 8ohms

i don't have another cab yet, but lets say i get a 500w 8ohm 2x12



does this mean my current setup 450 head into 8 ohm cab would only be using half of the maximum wattage?
and if i got another 8ohm cab it would be using the whole 450watts?


basically i just want to know if i get another cab if it will make me louder and handle alright or will be pushing the head to far.[/quote]


Okay, that makes no sense to me.


Which head are you running and do you mean that it is putting out 450W @ 4 Ohms?

OR

Is it putting out 450W @ 8 Ohms?

[QUOTE=ebe9;13512474]Okay, that makes no sense to me.


Which head are you running and do you mean that it is putting out 450W @ 4 Ohms?

OR

Is it putting out 450W @ 8 Ohms?[/QUOTE]

on the back of the head thats exactly what it says.

but i guess that mean 450watts at 4ohms

[url]http://www.behringer.com/BX4500H/index.cfm?lang=ENG[/url]
thats it there

[quote=funkyhoney;13512478]on the back of the head thats exactly what it says.

but i guess that mean 450watts at 4ohms

[url]http://www.behringer.com/BX4500H/index.cfm?lang=ENG[/url]
thats it there[/quote]


Okay, that particular model is running 450W at 4 Ohms.



Right.



2X10 500W @ 8 Ohms

2X12 500W @ 8 Ohms


Since the cabs will be running in parallel that will drop the Ohm rating down to 4 Ohms (If you were running in series the Ohm rating would be 16 Ohms)


So what that means is that if you ran the two cab together you would have:

1000W @ 4 Ohms.

Now your head is pushing out 450W @ 4 Ohms when it is running at its maximum.

For simplicity sake I will assume that these are all RMS Wattage ratings and not the peak values.


So you 1000W @ 4 Ohm stack will be receiving a maximum of 450W @ 4 Ohms.


That means that each cabinet will be receiving a potential 225W as the 450W will be shared equally between them.


You will get more percieved volume if you run both cabs together becasue you will have more surface area of speaker and thus be able to move more air.


Ideally you would want to invest money in a more powerful Head or maybe purchase a power amp and just run the EQ signal from your current one into that.



Also to maybe explain some of the maths behind it and give you a better understanding here is a thread I made a while back in the resources section:

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447331[/url]

[QUOTE=ebe9;13512489]Okay, that particular model is running 450W at 4 Ohms.



Right.



2X10 500W @ 8 Ohms

2X12 500W @ 8 Ohms


Since the cabs will be running in parallel that will drop the Ohm rating down to 4 Ohms (If you were running in series the Ohm rating would be 16 Ohms)


So what that means is that if you ran the two cab together you would have:

1000W @ 4 Ohms.

Now your head is pushing out 450W @ 4 Ohms when it is running at its maximum.

For simplicity sake I will assume that these are all RMS Wattage ratings and not the peak values.


So you 1000W @ 4 Ohm stack will be receiving a maximum of 450W @ 4 Ohms.


That means that each cabinet will be receiving a potential 225W as the 450W will be shared equally between them.


You will get more percieved volume if you run both cabs together becasue you will have more surface area of speaker and thus be able to move more air.


Ideally you would want to invest money in a more powerful Head or maybe purchase a power amp and just run the EQ signal from your current one into that.



Also to maybe explain some of the maths behind it and give you a better understanding here is a thread I made a while back in the resources section:

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447331[/url][/QUOTE]


mmkay, fair enough

maybe i would invest in a power amp, but i think i'd just run it through the 2x12 until i figure something else out.

thanks

[quote=funkyhoney;13512496]mmkay, fair enough

maybe i would invest in a power amp, but i think i'd just run it through the 2x12 until i figure something else out.

thanks[/quote]


I would say rather run both on the same amp, just don't push it to full levels as you will clip it then.


You will notice a percieved difference in volume because of the greater speaker surface area.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13512501]I would say rather run both on the same amp, just don't push it to full levels as you will clip it then.


You will notice a percieved difference in volume because of the greater speaker surface area.[/QUOTE]

fair enough, but if i can't push it as far then it wont be as loud?

i just find that it's difficult to get mine to be loud enough to be heard over even just a drummer

[quote=funkyhoney;13512531]fair enough, but if i can't push it as far then it wont be as loud?

i just find that it's difficult to get mine to be loud enough to be heard over even just a drummer[/quote]


It would be the head unit you have.


Those behringers are decent for the price, but are more of an entry level unit.

Maybe look at getting yourself a Genz Benz 600 or look into the Pre-Amp Power Amp setup.




Right, I must go, work to do.



Cheers

yeah, i will if i need it more frequently than i do at the moment.


anyway, i'll take a break to, no ones here.

later :wave:

hi people :wave:

Ah, the good ol' Casual.

Whats up pluperfect?