...and dead :(

[quote=funkyhoney;13415467]...and dead :([/quote]



CHARGE!


Nurse! 20cc's of Adrenaline!


Stat!

sup guys



...haven't posted much lately

ok now i'm here, once again.

hello cajjies

I'm back on.

i think it's dead.

My band is playing a party in a few weeks. Heres the playlist we've been asked to play:

Stupid girl – Cold
[I]Like a Stone – Audioslave
Show me how to live – Audioslave[/I]
[B]Fade to black – metallica[/B]
Open your eyes – 12 stones
Blind - korn
Everything I’ve known – korn
Down with the sickness – disturbed
Ten thousand fists – disturbed
[I]Turn the page – metallica[/I]
[B]Hysteria – muse[/B]
[B]Time is running out – muse
[/B]

Bolded are the songs my band can play and italicised are the songs I've heard before... Though I can barely remember Turn The Page.....

So now that it is showing some signs of life............


Ryan, you still want me to take a look at that FMJ piece you were writing?

[QUOTE=blizzard;13415560]My band is playing a party in a few weeks. Heres the playlist we've been asked to play:



Bolded are the songs my band can play and italicised are the songs I've heard before... Though I can barely remember Turn The Page.....[/QUOTE]

it's originally a seger song.


"here i am,
on the road again"

[QUOTE=mastrrbasser;13415565]it's originally a seger song.


"here i am,
on the road again"[/QUOTE]

Yeah I found out its a cover and have it on my computer its just when I think of Metallica songs thats one that doesn't jump to mind. Korn should be interesting... I don't want to downtune my bass really and the guitarists don't own 7 strings.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13415561]So now that it is showing some signs of life............


Ryan, you still want me to take a look at that FMJ piece you were writing?[/QUOTE]

maybe i do :amaze:

FULL METAL JACKET

The film Full Metal Jacket was one of the most prolific films to be produced in the wake of the Vietnam War era, it is also known as one of the films that adhered to the facts of life during the war down to the most minuscule of details. The use of this film as an example of life during the time of war is not a resource that should be overlooked by any means, as it is indeed an accurate representation of the war from the point of view of United States Marines. This paper will outline numerous reasons why Full Metal Jacket can be considered an accurate representation of life during the Vietnam War.

The film was produced and directed by Stanley Kubrick, who was renowned for his meticulous attention to detail and generally high quality films. Kubrick wrote the screenplay based on the novel “The Short Timers” written by Gustav Hasford who was a combat correspondent in Vietnam for several years. Kubrick also collaborated on the screenplay with Michael Herr, author of the celebrated Vietnam novel “Dispatches”. Full Metal Jacket portrays the Vietnam War from the perspective of the US marines and recurring themes include the contradictions of war, a constant feel of being out of ones depth and the idea of combat in Vietnam being part of a different world; one with its own rules and customs.

In order to understand how the film relates to its subject matter in such a powerful way one must first know the background of the conflict and why the US was even involved in the first place. The United States involvement in Vietnam grew out of the war in Korea and from US military and political support of the French efforts to defeat the Viet Minh in French Indochina. As early as 1950, the Geneva accords ended the fighting between the French and the Viet Minh and divided Vietnam along the 17th parallel; Vietnam now had a communist government in the north and an anti-communist government in the south. From 1954 to 1964 the Viet Minh and the National Liberation Front, or Viet Cong, waged a guerilla war in the south, supported by North Vietnam and its allies in Moscow and Beijing. At the end of 1954, the US agreed to support the new Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) and after the French withdrew the US had a much larger role in supporting the ARVN against the threat of communist forces. The United States government feared the spread of communism reaching American soil and in 1961 when John F. Kennedy was elected president he increased Americas involvement further still.

The US military’s involvement in Vietnam saw the coming of an enemy the it had not previously faced, that of which was guerilla warfare; the troops simply were not able to cope with such an enemy. That is not to say that the training they underwent was not very daunting. The United States Marine Corps in renowned for having rigorous training procedures and new recruits are forced to undergo very strenuous conditions in order to graduate from basic training. This is evident in the film, whereas one recruit, Private “Gomer” Pyle, is mistreated and abused by his fellow recruits and his drill instructor to the point where he is driven to insanity and murders the drill instructor and proceeds to commit suicide. The drill instructor was played by a real life Vietnam veteran, R. Lee Ermey, who was also a drill instructor during his time of service. Originally meant to be a military advisor for Kubrick; he was chosen for his ability to adlib almost entire portions of script as well as instill a real emotional response from the other actors. The training in the film is depicted as designed to eliminate the recruits’ sense of individuality and turn them into a team of killers. This was not too far from the reality of the time, and even the modern day training camps. Recruits are cut off from the civilian world in order to adopt a marine lifestyle, stress is constantly applied in efforts to train the recruits to work under pressure, they are constantly yelled at and forced to repeat simple tasks numerous times. All of which is evident in the film. In fact, Paris Island, where the training in the film occurred, is ranked among the most rigorous in the world. The process has been described as a form of conditioning; this makes the marine partially succumb part of their personality for the good of the unit. After the films release, a series of policy changes came about regarding what was considered acceptable behaviour from a USMC drill instructor.

The conditions in combat zones for US soldiers in Vietnam were some of the worst that ever had to be endured by marines in modern history. The fighting was very bloody; the guerilla tactics used by the Viet Cong could not be matched by the conventional warfare tactics used by the US troops. The Vietnamese used many traps that were designed to incapacitate soldiers rather than kill them. In the film, a lot of fighting is not shown; this is because the movie focuses mainly on the ethics and morality of war rather than graphic interpretation of combat situations. However, many of the facts remain intact, although most of the combat takes place in the cities rather than in the depths of the jungle; this is one of the only Vietnam films to actually bring the fact that not all fighting took place in the jungle to fruition. However, one of the last scenes in the film stays true to the basic structure that marine adhered to in combat zones, when a gunfight breaks out, marines would radio for artillery or helicopter support. This occurs in the film when a group of soldiers are pinned down by an enemy sniper and they call for artillery to bomb the surrounding buildings.

The first half of the film takes part in the Paris Island training camp, so the period in which it is set is inconsequential to the conditions in which they were treated are portrayed. The second part of the film is set in 1968, in Vietnam, and subsequently would be assumed that it is during the Tet Offensive which waged from January 1968 to July 1969. This is the one part of the film that does not appear to adhere to historical fact; no mention is made of the Tet Offensive and is perhaps left out of the film for the sake of mere simplicity on the behalf of Kubrick not wanting to make a film mainly concerned with combat.

The film has much historical accuracy, with few flaws; this film could be viewed by someone with no understanding of the conflict or the period in time and has the potential for them to walk away with at least a basic understanding of what life was like for the marines who served in Vietnam. Not only that, it may lead the more inquisitive viewer to question the morality of war in a country that the US had no prior involvement with, in addition to the ethics of war in general.

My sleeping patterns are such a tease.

I woke up at 6:13, went back to sleep, alarm goes off at 6:15.

[quote=funkyhoney;13415606]maybe i do :amaze:

FULL METAL JACKET

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Sounds good, I liked the way you backed up with the historical fact.

I would investigate a bit more of the background of the actual filming to fill out more, as although you give snippets of information, like them using an actual drill sergent, you are asking the reader to take a fair bit of information provided on your statements alone.

Try to use examples of parts of the film where you can back it up further with real world examples.


Otherwise a very nice piece. :thumb:

[QUOTE=ebe9;13415635]Sounds good, I liked the way you backed up with the historical fact.

I would investigate a bit more of the background of the actual filming to fill out more, as although you give snippets of information, like them using an actual drill sergent, you are asking the reader to take a fair bit of information provided on your statements alone.

Try to use examples of parts of the film where you can back it up further with real world examples.


Otherwise a very nice piece. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

ahhh good, thanks much.

i handed that in as a draft today, real things gotta be in next tuesday.
its nly supposed to be 800-1000 words and thats over 1200, so adding in any extra information would be a hard push, i'll reword it a bit though.

[quote=funkyhoney;13415649]ahhh good, thanks much.

i handed that in as a draft today, real things gotta be in next tuesday.
its nly supposed to be 800-1000 words and thats over 1200, so adding in any extra information would be a hard push, i'll reword it a bit though.[/quote]


If it only has to be 800 - 1000 words then don't worry about it.

Check with your teacher/lecturer if he/she has an issue with you pushing the length.

It also depends on whether you are willing to expend the effort.



Its very easy to go well over a 1000 words on a write up of a film, especially one covering the subject matter of yours.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13415660]If it only has to be 800 - 1000 words then don't worry about it.

Check with your teacher/lecturer if he/she has an issue with you pushing the length.

It also depends on whether you are willing to expend the effort.



Its very easy to go well over a 1000 words on a write up of a film, especially one covering the subject matter of yours.[/QUOTE]

it definately is easy to over write.

what really get me is these assignments for modern history (like this one). they are rediculous really, for a 800-1000 word essay on whether or not the film is an accurate representation of its time, we are expected to write 30 A4 page of hand written notes, and well as fill a 10 page booklet with planning and write up another 10 pages of drafting write-ups and topic paragraphs :amaze:

[quote=funkyhoney;13415667]it definately is easy to over write.

what really get me is these assignments for modern history (like this one). they are rediculous really, for a 800-1000 word essay on whether or not the film is an accurate representation of its time, we are expected to write 30 A4 page of hand written notes, and well as fill a 10 page booklet with planning and write up another 10 pages of drafting write-ups and topic paragraphs :amaze:[/quote]


That is quite excessive, especially because it need to be handwritten.

Why can't you type it?


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[QUOTE=funkyhoney;13415667]it definately is easy to over write.

what really get me is these assignments for modern history (like this one). they are rediculous really, for a 800-1000 word essay on whether or not the film is an accurate representation of its time, we are expected to write 30 A4 page of hand written notes, and well as fill a 10 page booklet with planning and write up another 10 pages of drafting write-ups and topic paragraphs :amaze:[/QUOTE]

That seems stupid... What I hate are people who just deliberately go outside the word limit so they look smarter. One guy in my English class had written his assignment a week before we got given the criteria sheet and was about 1000 words over.

Google buys YouTube for US$1.65 Billion


[URL]http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzgoogle1007,0,6692585.story?coll=ny-main-bigpix[/URL]

[QUOTE=ebe9;13415674]That is quite excessive, especially because it need to be handwritten.

Why can't you type it?


(3 posts from 3000)[/QUOTE]

because we can't prove it's ours or some garbage, it really ****s me.
its supposed to teach us about researching in depth (history after all) bleh.



and bliz, going to far over loses you marks.
you lose marks because you take toolong to explain so they think you don't know what your on about.

[QUOTE=ebe9;13415694]Google buys YouTube for US$1.65 Billion


[URL]http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzgoogle1007,0,6692585.story?coll=ny-main-bigpix[/URL][/QUOTE]

...sh[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]t

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25QfIhNphtE[/url]

this makes me want a real fretless

and a loop pedal

i've got this sweet setup going now, my music ex program at school, im specialising in performance, so thats my new "chop building" class.
in stage band its fairly easy so im doing that to learn to sight read.
my regular music class helps with theory, musicology, and composition.
and my provate teacher helps with virtually everything, theory, improv, chops, new techniques.. whatev


just thought i'dlet you know :)

i'm currently trying to learn to play chordally better as well as looking seriously into two-hand tapping. DT'ing could be fun to

....i'm leaving, i need sleep. so much to do tomorrow, i'm doing solo's and stuff, getting marked on this **** to!

i'll get video's for you fool's :thumb:
jsut for reference im playing Naima and The Awakening

[quote=funkyhoney;13415707][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25QfIhNphtE[/url]

this makes me want a real fretless

and a loop pedal

i've got this sweet setup going now, my music ex program at school, im specialising in performance, so thats my new "chop building" class.
in stage band its fairly easy so im doing that to learn to sight read.
my regular music class helps with theory, musicology, and composition.
and my provate teacher helps with virtually everything, theory, improv, chops, new techniques.. whatev


just thought i'dlet you know :)

i'm currently trying to learn to play chordally better as well as looking seriously into two-hand tapping. DT'ing could be fun to[/quote]


The more I think about it, them more I feel that if this EUB project of mine turns out the way I want it to, I will pretty much switch over to fretless almost exclusively.

Maybe push it to Double Bass level. I do enjoy slap still, but it is about the only thing I really do on my fretted apart from aimless noodling.

Listening to the new Melvins album... two drummers... :eek:

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13416214]Listening to the new Melvins album... two drummers... :eek:[/QUOTE]

The Melvins?
Didn't know they were still knocking about

i'm listening to "showbiz"


the band being?

Can you guys believe YouTube was started 2 years ago in some dude's garage? The guys are 23 and 26 years old and now they each have about 600 million dollars...wow.

-Gav

I think I'm going to buy some flat/groundwounds. I've decided. That will my reward to myself for going to the dentist. Now, to call and see if any of the crappy stores in my town have strings at a reasonable price. Yes. . . :cool:

yo peeps

Shouldn't you be in school? :lol:









:wave:

errr no....


:wave:

Oh. Okay then. :upset:



Anyway, my flatwound idea has died. The closest thing I've got locally is a set of Fender tapewounds for $40, or drive an hour to GC for some D'Addarios. That's probably what I'll do, but not today, I'm lazy. :lol:

Well I'm off to the dentist. I love laughing gas and novacaine. So much fun. :smoke:

:lol:

see ya buddy

New Melvins album eh? Better go download it. :cool:

[QUOTE=Duncster;13416754]New Melvins album eh? Better go download it. :cool:[/QUOTE]

It's pretty wild. There are many times where they really utilize both drummers, makes you go :eek:

I want to play a fanned fret fretless. I think it'd be trippy.

[QUOTE=BenJammin;13417235]I want to play a fanned fret fretless. I think it'd be trippy.[/QUOTE]

I think it would be dumb. :eek:


I mean, really... let's just make the most impossible instrument to play.

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13417248]I think it would be dumb. :eek:


I mean, really... let's just make the most impossible instrument to play.[/QUOTE]

;) Bingo.

I agree that it's a stupid idea, but it might be fun to noodle on.

You smell like pumpkin.



But dual drummers is the way to go. Melvins, you make me smile.