there amit goes talking about things he doesn't know about again

jk


i don't think too highly of kurrpt anyways so i'm not gonna worry about this

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]I would if people stopped being so ignorant towards the effects of smoking and what they are doing to themselves. They keep making excuses as to why they smoke which are ridiculous in comparison. If they say that then I will laugh when they die at 46 due to lung cancer.[/QUOTE]


meh dude, you do gotta chill
until you smoke, you'll never know the reason people stop and start. you just assume.

you cant look down on every possible thing. theres a bright side to everything. making you feel better. etc.

i agree with kurpt. you cant just live life assuming what could happen.

you gotta take chances. do what you want. not let some information rule your life.

just because you smoke doesnt guarentee anything. I could die tomorrow on my way to work in my car. Do I make decisions based on this possibility? Hell no.


Do i understand the possible risks involved when i decide to throw myself down a 20 stair handrail on skates with no helmet or pads? Of course. Do i still do it anyway? You're god damned right.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]you are an idiot, you must have a seriously low IQ to make yourself believe that[/QUOTE]
wouldn't he have an extremely high IQ if he was capable of making himself believe "such bulls[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it"


any way the new topic is silly phrases :smash:

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]just because you smoke doesnt guarentee anything. I could die tomorrow on my way to work in my car. Do I make decisions based on this possibility? Hell no.


Do i understand the possible risks involved when i decide to throw myself down a 20 stair handrail on skates with no helmet or pads? Of course. Do i still do it anyway? You're god damned right.[/QUOTE]


you rollerblade mang?

i did for a tad bit, jumped off something fairly high, and with crap skates the whole impact i felt haha.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]you are an idiot, you must have a seriously low IQ to make yourself believe that[/QUOTE]



Sure, i could go on proving my intelligence, or shoot down your already flawed OPINION but it really doesn't do anyone any amount of good. If you have to justify my stance by making petty attacks, i think it says less about you. Considering that fact, I dont think i need to address this at all considering you've already done enough ;)



edit : yea man. Ive skated with more pros than i have fingers and toes. Its the greatest high/rush than i could compare to any drug, alcohol, or even sex.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]Sure, i could go on proving my intelligence, or shoot down your already flawed OPINION but it really doesn't do anyone any amount of good. If you have to justify my stance by making petty attacks, i think it says less about you. Considering that fact, I dont think i need to address this at all considering you've already done enough ;)[/QUOTE]

I find it humourous how you find all the facts I have stated as someones opinion. If you would care to read previous posts you will see a read off a long list of diseases you can get from smoking.

[QUOTE=Atman]decent sex > high quality pot[/QUOTE]


hmm... i JUST caught this statement, and i could really argue each point back and forth all day...



you start :D


edit : the possible side effects are proven. Your rationale based on these possible effects are, by definition, your own conclusion drawn from you personal experiences or viewpoints. Sounds like an opinion to me

lol Kurrpt is a fruitbooter

[QUOTE=ricardo]lol Kurrpt is a fruitbooter[/QUOTE]


my crew moved away awhile ago. I might actually get back into in the near future

[QUOTE=Swim]Roger, what are your views on drugs and cannabis?

Sorry, it's got to be done...:lol:[/QUOTE]

not as strong as smoking, mainly because when I go out I don't see people smoking pot etc. None of my friends do drugs, I'm not someone who does that.
But I would still discourage people from doing drugs, the mental effects can be horrendous. As are the physical effects

haha. im mainly a skateboarder, but rollerblading always seemed like an awesome sport to me.

i actually find it cooler then skateboarding, but i suck at rollerblading so skateboarding was like yer.

and biking was just like. i dunno, i was always a little dude build wise, so biking was like. a heavier thing. haha.

+ it took alot of control.


[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/i_go_by_mikee/100_8788.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/i_go_by_mikee/100_8789.jpg[/IMG]

my pwn as[I]s[/I] board.

the funny thing is Roger Waters is that i used to say this SAME sh!t to my mom when i was little and had no idea about anything. It wasnt until i exposed myself to it that i was able to understand it from both sides of the fence/coin. Its pretty obvious that you haven't encountered the other side, which is find, but stop pretending you have it ALL FIGURED OUT.

Haha nice. I've been skateboarding like 6 years. I don't really like rollerblading but if they are doing some crazy sh1t then I can respect that.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]not as strong as smoking, mainly because when I go out I don't see people smoking pot etc. None of my friends do drugs, I'm not someone who does that.
But I would still discourage people from doing drugs, the mental effects can be horrendous. As are the physical effects[/QUOTE]
I would regard drugs as a far bigger problem on the whole for one huge reason.

Illegal drugs trade and consumption CANNOT be regulated. I mean we've seen your views on smoking and by all effects, over the long run smoking can actually be stoped. However, the timescale to take out drugs completely is far larger. In the long run, illegal drugs are a far bigger problem.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]hmm... i JUST caught this statement, and i could really argue each point back and forth all day...



you start :D


edit : the possible side effects are proven. Your rationale based on these possible effects are, by definition, your own conclusion drawn from you personal experiences or viewpoints. Sounds like an opinion to me[/QUOTE]

incorrect, stating a fact is not an opinion. It is stating a fact, how you interpret can possibly make it an opinion. But the reason I was stating these facts was to show you that smoking is bad for your health. You say I was using these facts as a way of backing up my opinion which is right but how on earth any person can say that smoking is healthy because increasing your chance of Heart Disese is just an idiot. SO therefore I was using these facts to prove a fact which also happens to be an opinion because it is correct.

Opinions can be correct, they are not always wrong.

i love watching the guitar forum try to argue about politics

you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum :lol:

[QUOTE=Swim]that's sick

shame about the pink though[/QUOTE]


yer i didnt like it too much at first, but i guess it grew on me. i bought the deck for like 5 bucks, put some ventures on there [ what tony hawk had on his sig boards when he used powell peralta] love tensors though.

and then i more recently put my flip wheels on it, because im using it as my main board and i had some cheap old school wheels on there.

[QUOTE=overturned]I would regard drugs as a far bigger problem on the whole for one huge reason.

Illegal drugs trade and consumption CANNOT be regulated. I mean we've seen your views on smoking and by all effects, over the long run smoking can actually be stoped. However, the timescale to take out drugs completely is far larger. In the long run, illegal drugs are a far bigger problem.[/QUOTE]

i agree, miainly because people have figured out how to import drugs because they have had time to work it out. On their own customs and the police will never stop the drug trade completely, the only way it has a chance of being stopped is if the general public informed the police constantly about drug trade. But that puts the public at risk from the drug dealers. But the only way to prevent is for the public to 'grass'

btw OT how old are you?

no one tried to say smoking was good for your health. What the hell are you talking about


i had my first pair of skates at 6. Though i didnt start till i was about 16. My friend, who moved away, actually had a skate park built in his barn by a former skateboard pro name Chad Kramer

[QUOTE=Atman]i love watching the guitar forum try to argue about politics

you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum :lol:[/QUOTE]

pretty much

I read through there occasionally, and these arguments are really lame in comparison.

[QUOTE=Atman]i love watching the guitar forum try to argue about politics

you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum :lol:[/QUOTE]

i could handle myself on politics, I studied it for A level history, boring as hell though.

[QUOTE=kurrpt'd]

i had my first pair of skates at 6. Though i didnt start till i was about 16. My friend, who moved away, actually had a skate park built in his barn by a former skateboard pro name Chad Kramer[/QUOTE]

awesome. i started skating at like. i guess like 10. i had built like ramps and sh¡t to go off, wanted to build a pipe in my backyard, but that never happened. haha.

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]i agree, miainly because people have figured out how to import drugs because they have had time to work it out. On their own customs and the police will never stop the drug trade completely, the only way it has a chance of being stopped is if the general public informed the police constantly about drug trade. But that puts the public at risk from the drug dealers. But the only way to prevent is for the public to 'grass'

btw OT how old are you?[/QUOTE]
I disagree entirely, the first step if doomed in the long run, imo, to removing illegal drugs would be to no longer make them illegal. Regulation ensues.

Police and authority groups can then target more forcefully remaining drug dealers/suppliers/growers etc
Many will have already been forced out of business by the legalisation.
From this governments can then begin to reduce supply and through various mediums decrease demand for the drugs in question and in the end wipeout the problem.

Of course this would require HUGE amounts of investment over many, many years and has various side effects such as unemployment increase and in the short term standards decrease.
The amount of investment would need to be of equal measure to both improve and expand current prison and healthcare systems. As well as focus attention on agricultural areas and "inner city" problem areas where these problems are so commonly stero typed. Investment would also have to be on a global scale with close to every nation agreeing on policies.

All of which, won't in the short run work out. Many governments are corrupt from drugs trade as such they would not agree which would insight war on varied levels.

Lastly the sheer time scale that any idea such as the above (which would, in theory, economically work) to complete it'd would take several lifetimes. Which would demand that governments maintain policies over many years. Again, something which would be very unlikely to happen.


And 18.

[QUOTE=Atman]you guys would get slain so hard in the actual pnwi forum[/QUOTE][U]Everyone[/U] has a right to an opinion over politics mate. Whether they would get "slain" or not is besides the point.
There is no easy answer in politics anyway, nothing can be that clear cut as solution 1 > solution 2. Every political policy has its fair share of faults and governments differ from nation to nation. Ideas from my point of view would differ from yours due purely to your location.

[QUOTE=overturned][U]Everyone[/U] has a right to an opinion over politics mate. Whether they would get "slain" or not is besides the point.
There is no easy answer in politics anyway, nothing can be that clear cut as solution 1 > solution 2. Every political policy has its fair share of faults and governments differ from nation to nation. Ideas from my point of view would differ from yours due purely to your location.[/QUOTE]

when did i say everyone didn't have a right to an opinion?

i'm just saying that the level of discussion being carried out in here is, for the most part, laughable

this is where people can yell at me for being an elitist douche bag or whatever

*shrug*

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]i could handle myself on politics, I studied it for A level history, boring as hell though.[/QUOTE]

reading your posts, no you can't

[QUOTE=Atman]when did i say everyone didn't have a right to an opinion?

i'm just saying that the level of discussion being carried out in here is, for the most part, laughable

this is where people can yell at me for being an elitist douche bag or whatever

*shrug*
[/QUOTE]
Fair play on the first point, I generalised your comment a little too much, you elitist douche bag.

[QUOTE=overturned]Fair play on the first point, I generalised your comment a little too much, you elitist douche bag.[/QUOTE]

people in here get too caught up on tangential semantics and a lot of the statements made are based on extremely flawed perceptions of fundamental concepts

that isn't to say it doesn't happen in the pnwi forums (it does a lot actually), but there is definitely a bigger presence of user self-moderation on discussion

[QUOTE=Atman]when did i say everyone didn't have a right to an opinion?

i'm just saying that the level of discussion being carried out in here is, for the most part, laughable

this is where people can yell at me for being an elitist douche bag or whatever

*shrug*



reading your posts, no you can't[/QUOTE]

yes, I can, I was expressing my view on an issue, therefore, politics.

I was doing well, i was able to express my opinion and back it up with facts. Now that is good politics.

[QUOTE=Atman]people in here get too caught up on [B]tangential semantics[/B] and a lot of the statements made are based on extremely flawed perceptions of fundamental concepts[/QUOTE]
what?

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]yes, I can, I was expressing my view on an issue, therefore, politics.

I was doing well, i was able to express my opinion and back it up with facts. Now that is good politics.[/QUOTE]

there are so many places where your posts could be picked apart and reduced that i don't even know what to rebut first

[QUOTE=Timm]what?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=tangential[/url]

Like, related subjects. "Going off on tangents" so to speak, I think anyway.

Hmm, almost.

[QUOTE=Atman]there are so many places where your posts could be picked apart and reduced that i don't even know what to rebut first



[url]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=tangential[/url][/QUOTE]
hehe mx died on me and I could think of it myself in the mean time. just had to remember what a tangent is. oh how I loved maths :-/
thanks anyway though :-)

[QUOTE=Atman]there are so many places where your posts could be picked apart and reduced that i don't even know what to rebut first
[/QUOTE]

go on then

Sup guys?

Anyone remember the website where you could draw an animation on like a drawing board (duh!) and then send it out to people? Its buggin the hell outta me.

ms paint + email?

oh wait you mean animation

animation program + email

:-)

[QUOTE=Roger_Waters]go on then[/QUOTE]

your entire argument is fundamentally flawed

if you can't see this

no amount of explanation on my part can help you

[QUOTE=Father_Jack]Sup guys?

Anyone remember the website where you could draw an animation on like a drawing board (duh!) and then send it out to people? Its buggin the hell outta me.[/QUOTE]
Aha I remember that thing, can't remember the name though.

Not smoking at all > hookah > cigarettes

So I make 20 untaxed dollars an hour giving guitar lessons now, and I turned 18 couple month ago. Everyone who eva told anyone u gonna get nowher playin guitar, go eat some dick. Follow ur dreamz.


Sup guys

nm, haven't seen you on here in forever tbh