The whole site's going through kind of a slump these days.

As for relationships on my side, still haven't gotten a break. Everytime I see a girl that I consider making a move on, she either lights up a cigarette or runs into the arms of some random Johnny Frat [size=2]A[/size]sshole. It's uncanny.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]The whole site's going through kind of a slump these days.

As for relationships on my side, still haven't gotten a break. Everytime I see a girl that I consider making a move on, she either lights up a cigarette or runs into the arms of some random Johnny Frat [size=2]A[/size]sshole. It's uncanny.[/QUOTE]

I hate smokers, can't stand em. Both parents smoking around me all the time is probably one reason why.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]The whole site's going through kind of a slump these days.

As for relationships on my side, still haven't gotten a break. Everytime I see a girl that I consider making a move on, she either lights up a cigarette or runs into the arms of some random Johnny Frat [size=2]A[/size]sshole. It's uncanny.[/QUOTE]

So you would'nt go for a really hot girl, i mean really hot, if she smoked?

i smoke, would ya go for me? ;)

sierra is in town the past 3 times, stayed in her hostel :o shhh - wasnt soppose to and slept with her. was great being beside her again

yesterday she was moved into a private room in the guest house so i spent all day with her sitting on the bed with her, drank a bottle of wine and fell asleep with her. so comfey. its great.

so i had to come home, get some food, get her email for her lol and now im gona go down and meet up with her again.

Monday, Thursday i bought her for a walk along the beach down to the sand dunes. She loved it. So much so she is gone for a walk down there again right now while im up ere'

yay :)
im so happy :)

ahh good times.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]If she's telling you someone is hitting on her; she wants you to know that for a reason. Because if you really leave someone you're kind to their feelings, unless you're a complete arse.[/QUOTE]Well I'm an arse enough to break up with her five weeks ago and keep up with a food fight during dinner just two nights ago. I don't know what I want other than to sleep with her. Hurray for hormones.

[QUOTE=Jom]She's trying to see if she can get some reaction out of you. It seems to be working since you're all distracted and jittery. Even though I know you didn't need that to be pointed out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I told her, "She could call me if she got bored." Bad idea. I'm still dreading that she did something she'd regret and I'd be jealous of last night, but Jesus, I need to stop obsessing over the girl that I dumped.

On a more constructive note: I realized the other night that I don't like myself. Probably a big contributor to my difficulty in making a decision, besides just being fickle. I just need to make it for another five weeks until summer, then I won't have to worry so directly. I'm sure I'll find a way to, though. And in the meantime I can try some communions with Yahweh, Lord God, Vishnu, Tree, or whoever. I need to stop trying to be smarter than I am and just work at my own pace instead of being jealous.

[QUOTE=d-mart]So you would'nt go for a really hot girl, i mean really hot, if she smoked?[/QUOTE]

What's the point in her being hot if she smells like a f[size=2]u[/size]cking ashtray?

It's an intensely vile habit and I refuse to put up with it.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]What's the point in her being hot if she smells like a f[size=2]u[/size]cking ashtray?

It's an intensely vile habit and I refuse to put up with it.[/QUOTE]

i completely agree

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]i completely agree[/QUOTE]
Me too.

Good to know I'm not alone on this one.

I don't care how hot a woman is. Physical attractiveness should not pardon her flaws. I don't care if she's hotter than a supermodel. If she smoked, or was dumber than a box of hair, or emotionally unstable, or otherwise completely incompatible with me in terms of personality, I would not date her. There's more to women than just their boobs.

Women who are very attractive can have pretty much any Tom, Dick, and Harry they want. But I'm none of the above. I have standards which I refuse to compromise. Women should not hold power over men just because they have a pretty face.

Ok, so I don't know if I just did the right thing.

Back in December when Angela and I were dating we were riding in our friend Jenny in another kinda friend Chris's car. Well Angela had her digital camera with her and left it in his car. We called Chris and he said he couldn't find it so then we called Jenny to see if she had it. Jenny said she looked everywere for it and that she'll go up to the restraunt and see if it was there the next day or something. Angela was leaving for Florida the next morning so she was VERY upset she wouldn't be able to take any pictures or show her cousins (who she was visiting) pictures from Florida. Jenny said she couldn't find it and we assumed it was stolen or something. (It was a $100 camera btw)

Well fast forward to Late Janurary, Angela has broken up with me and Jenny and I are hanging out. Jenny tells me that she actually took the camera with Chris and broke it behind some store and about last summer she also stole $20 from her so she could buy some make up. (Which was also a big deal and Angela thought she lost it and her mom had just given her the money and Anglea was also, very upset over it) The reason Jenny told me was because she didn't think Angela and I are ever going to hang out again and she was scared on how I would tell her if she told me when we were going out.

Well Jenny has been mad at me for about 2-3 weeks now because apparently I told Angela that Jenny was talking behind her back saying she didn't really want to be friends much. So apparently I was a terrible friend to jenny and now she can never trust me again. *rollzeyes* But her and Angela have gotten closer together recently and I had completely forgotten about the camera and the $20 up until maybe last week. Well I was thinking, if I betrayed Jenny's trust SOOO bad like she said, what about stealing $120 worth of stuff from Angela and [i]never[/i] feeling bad or guilty about it ONCE.

Well, I REALLY wanted to tell Angela about it because for me, it was really hard to see Angela talk about how Jenny has "turned around" and how she and her are best friends without her knowing about that. I mean, it's one thing if Jenny did something small and stupid, to tell Angela would seem like it would cause unnessasary drama but I was debating hard on whether to tell her or not and I decided $120 is not "small stuff"

I told her yesterday and she started to cry. She said on how JEnny seemed like she cared about trying to find her camera but how could she just laugh about it and yeeah. She said in order for them to be friends again Jenny owes her $120. But Jenny has no job, and is a huge mooch so we know she doesn't have that kind of money. Angela doesn't want to go to Jenny's parents because it would seem like "tattling" but I have no idea on how this is going to go.

I don't know if parents' are going to be involved or if Jenny is going to repay Angela or anything. My only evidence is what Jenny said last Janurary but Angela hasn't told Jenny she knows yet so I'm going to try to get Jenny to talk about it with me over AIM and save the conversation for a little more proof. (But I know she did it, becauseAngela and I were confused about her having it in Chris's car but now it's gone. We just assumed that we only thought she had it in Chris's car) BEcause I do think JEnny will probably try and lie out of this but Jenny told me what kind of pictures were on it and making fun of Angela so I do know what kind of pictures are on it fron Jenny's mouth, giving me a lot more credibility.

What do you think? Did I do the right thing or am I "tattling"? I really want comments/opinions/help because this isn't really a small thing. (And I have realized Jenny will be forever mad at me because of this) Angela is happy I told her but I really don't know if she was better off knowing or not.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]What's the point in her being hot if she smells like a f[size=2]u[/size]cking ashtray?

It's an intensely vile habit and I refuse to put up with it.[/QUOTE]

you like that with everyone who smokes?

[QUOTE=d-mart]you like that with everyone who smokes?[/QUOTE]

i dont care if people smoke, but i wont date anyone who does

You did the right thing for sure. You can't consider it tattling. Whether they were "friends" or not it was still stealing. Imo getting Angela's parents into this is a good idea. And she deffinatly is better off knowing, because if she found out later on about it and that you knew, she'd be pissed at you.

[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]You did the right thing for sure. You can't consider it tattling. Whether they were "friends" or not it was still stealing. Imo getting Angela's parents into this is a good idea. And she deffinatly is better off knowing, because if she found out later on about it and that you knew, she'd be pissed at you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Angela was went over the idea of me putting off on telling her but I told her I truthfully didn't know until last Janurary/Feburary (which I didn't) but i still feel bad for putting off telling her for a while. (I had completely forgotten about it until recently though)

Well man, you deffinatly did the right thing, and I personally would think Angela's parents getting involved would be good to. You guys may lose a friend, but someone who would do something like that can't really be considered a friend anyway can they?

[QUOTE=thunderzstruck]What do you think? Did I do the right thing or am I "tattling"? I really want comments/opinions/help because this isn't really a small thing. (And I have realized Jenny will be forever mad at me because of this) Angela is happy I told her but I really don't know if she was better off knowing or not.[/QUOTE]

You did the right thing. The kind of behavior Jenny is showing is completely unacceptable and she needs to understand that if she's going to do something so stupid, she needs to be prepared for the consequences.

[QUOTE=d-mart]you like that with everyone who smokes?[/QUOTE]

I won't date someone who smokes, but in general I just politely ask people not to smoke around me. If they refuse, that's when I put my foot down and get nasty.

However, I do stand by my statement that it's a filthy habit. It's ridiculously unhealthy, the smell it leaves everywhere is absolutely putrid, and it effects everyone in the immediate area, whether they want to deal with it or not.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]I won't date someone who smokes, but in general I just politely ask people not to smoke around me. If they refuse, that's when I put my foot down and get nasty.

However, I do stand by my statement that it's a filthy habit. It's ridiculously unhealthy, the smell it leaves everywhere is absolutely putrid, and it effects everyone in the immediate area, whether they want to deal with it or not.[/QUOTE]
I'm the same way, I WON'T date someone who smokes. And if someone around me smokes I usually tend to do the same, tell them to stop at least around me. If they refuse I either just leave or get pissed off. But it's only happened a few times.

Yeah, I'm against chicks that smoke too. Although not if they smoke bud, that only makes things better.

Smoking=Nasty.

That's all there is to it.

Argh. I think Ive come to the conclusion I dont like being in relationships.

I dont like the feeling of missing some presense when they arent around.
I know it sounds kinda silly, but I really dont like it one bit.

[QUOTE=purplefeet]Argh. I think Ive come to the conclusion I dont like being in relationships.

I dont like the feeling of missing some presense when they arent around.
I know it sounds kinda silly, but I really dont like it one bit.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but it makes being around them all the sweeter. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that jazz.

[QUOTE=Chrysostom]Yeah but it makes being around them all the sweeter. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that jazz.[/QUOTE]

Yah I suppose but I find it more annoying than anything. The whole "thinking about the all the time" and all that supidness, lol.

Yesterday I was talking to Pam, and while we're talking, she looks at me and says "It kinda just seems like we're still going out, doesn't it?" and the proceeds to try to make plans for me to come over to her house this weekend.

Could this be a good thing?

Somebody give the advice giver some advice.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]What's the point in her being hot if she smells like a f[size=2]u[/size]cking ashtray?

It's an intensely vile habit and I refuse to put up with it.[/QUOTE]
Well said my son!!!

[QUOTE=Tillius]Yesterday I was talking to Pam, and while we're talking, she looks at me and says "It kinda just seems like we're still going out, doesn't it?" and the proceeds to try to make plans for me to come over to her house this weekend.

Could this be a good thing?

Somebody give the advice giver some advice.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I'm a little behind times on your business with Pam, friend. Whether or not it's a good thing depends on whether or not you want to get back together with her; give me some more info and I'll give a more elaborate reply.

[QUOTE=Tillius]Yesterday I was talking to Pam, and while we're talking, she looks at me and says "It kinda just seems like we're still going out, doesn't it?" and the proceeds to try to make plans for me to come over to her house this weekend.

Could this be a good thing?

Somebody give the advice giver some advice.[/QUOTE]

Do u have a refernce to a page number so I can read what happened between you guys originally? :)

No, I don't have a page number.

Anyhow, the thing is, neither one of us wanted the relationship to end, but at the moment, she felt it was something that had to be done.

She's already said that she wants to get back with me, but she won't because she's "scared" to.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]You did the right thing. The kind of behavior Jenny is showing is completely unacceptable and she needs to understand that if she's going to do something so stupid, she needs to be prepared for the consequences.



I won't date someone who smokes, but in general I just politely ask people not to smoke around me. If they refuse, that's when I put my foot down and get nasty.

However, I do stand by my statement that it's a filthy habit. It's ridiculously unhealthy, the smell it leaves everywhere is absolutely putrid, and it effects everyone in the immediate area, whether they want to deal with it or not.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I wouldn't go out with anyone that smoked. My mum has started smoking again which has really upset me. She smokes in a certain room downstairs where the cat sleeps so the cat now stink of smoke aswell :(

[QUOTE=Tillius]No, I don't have a page number.

Anyhow, the thing is, neither one of us wanted the relationship to end, but at the moment, she felt it was something that had to be done.

She's already said that she wants to get back with me, but she won't because she's "scared" to.[/QUOTE]

well always keep in mind that relationships are never the end of the world. Well, unless you are 30 something and have 3 kids together.

I guess my advice would be is, if you care about her, wait it out a bit to see how she feels. Her opinions might change and you guys can date again. But dont wait for her if she doesnt intend on doing anything and leaving you in limbo either. The last thing you want to do is stick around for something that isnt going to happen.

so...that date when just [I]fuc[I]k[/I]ing[/I] great. She kinda broke up with me. Reasoning being i loved her and she only liked me, not loved. Weird thing being it took like...2 hours to decide if we were actually broken up or not because we're both very A.D.D. We still went to dinner cause:
1. i was hungry
2. we had nothing better to do and i didn't want her to leave.

even though we just ordered one appetizer and split that. For some reason i don't feel like total shiite because she mentioned that we should break up at 4:30, and we actually broke up around 6 something, then we left at 8. I think it's gonna hit me like a ton of bricks pretty soon though.

[QUOTE=PinkPanther]so...that date when just ****ing great. She kinda broke up with me. Reasoning being i loved her and she only liked me, not loved. Weird thing being it took like...2 hours to decide if we were actually broken up or not because we're both very A.D.D. We still went to dinner cause:
1. i was hungry
2. we had nothing better to do and i didn't want her to leave.

even though we just ordered one appetizer and split that. For some reason i don't feel like total shiite because she mentioned that we should break up at 4:30, and we actually broke up around 6 something, then we left at 8. I think it's gonna hit me like a ton of bricks pretty soon though.[/QUOTE]
Ah man, i'm sorry.
I know how your feeling. But try not to get to down, if it does suddenly hit you.
Life goes on man.