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vashts80 03-01-2006 05:48 PM

Except if you'd have watched any of Thompson's videos, he's well versed in jazz (or was it classical? I can't remember). As a band, Slipknot sucks, but as inidivudal musicians, Thompson and Jordison are good. Definitely not as good as Michael Romeo or Gene Hoglan, but they're not exactly horrible musicians.

GenuineImitation 03-01-2006 06:32 PM

Thompson is a good guitarist. He may not be a Vai or Petrucci, but he has some skills.

Did Metallica ever announce a release day?

BLS_Infernus 03-01-2006 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]Thompson is a good guitarist. He may not be a Vai or Petrucci, but he has some skills.

Did Metallica ever announce a release day?[/QUOTE]

Al Di Meola or John McLaughlin is probably the best guitarist on the planet.

I haven't heard anything but I'm betting Sept.

GenuineImitation 03-01-2006 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]Al Di Meola or John McLaughlin is probably the best guitarist on the planet.

I haven't heard anything but I'm betting Sept.[/QUOTE]


I actually haven't heard anything from Al Di Meola. Sounds like Im missing out.

PepsiMetal 03-01-2006 07:54 PM

BLS, there are drummers too who are better than Lombardo. Just because Lombardo > Jordison, doesn't mean Jordison = sucks.

BLS_Infernus 03-01-2006 08:09 PM

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]BLS, there are drummers too who are better than Lombardo. Just because Lombardo > Jordison, doesn't mean Jordison = sucks.[/QUOTE]

I know that. Nile's drummer wipes the floor with Lombardo. I just really, really like Dave Lombardo's style.

Chu 03-01-2006 08:47 PM

Stupid, just because he's not the best guitarist on the Earth you flame him?

No one said anything about Mick Thomspon being the best guitarist, but he's still pretty ****en good, compared to me, you, or anyone else on this forum.

Same goes for Joey Jordison, he might not be the best, but he's pretty ****en good.

Who cares if the musician isn't the best? Is that a reason not to listen to them?
If so, you're pretty ****en close-minded....

BLS_Infernus 03-01-2006 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]Stupid, just because he's not the best guitarist on the Earth you flame him?

No one said anything about Mick Thomspon being the best guitarist, but he's still pretty ****en good, compared to me, you, or anyone else on this forum.

Same goes for Joey Jordison, he might not be the best, but he's pretty ****en good.

Who cares if the musician isn't the best? Is that a reason not to listen to them?
If so, you're pretty ****en close-minded....[/QUOTE]

The fact that I pure hate Slipknot has something to do with it. Mick Thompson's guitar work isn't that hard btw.

Metallica doesn't have the best musicians in the world and I love them. My favorite band in the world and there stuff is easy to me.

Chu 03-01-2006 08:53 PM

I'm sure a lot of people hate Slipknot, myself included, but I don't see that as a reason to flame the members of the band for being something which I'm not (i.e. Good).
I can play most metallica songs, does it make me good? Nah, I'm far from it, there's a lot more to being good then just being able to play someone else's music (I'm sure you know that already..)

TojesDolan 03-01-2006 08:56 PM

Nope. Call of Ktulu>Orion

I was going to say Orion was too repetitive. But oh me! Both repeat riffs often. Buy I prefer the badas[size=2]s[/size]ness of the main Ktulu riff over Orion's riff, which runs a bit too slow... IN MY OPINION.

/Adds nothing constructive to the topic

BLS_Infernus 03-01-2006 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]I'm sure a lot of people hate Slipknot, myself included, but I don't see that as a reason to flame the members of the band for being something which I'm not (i.e. Good).
I can play most metallica songs, does it make me good? Nah, I'm far from it, there's a lot more to being good then just being able to play someone else's music (I'm sure you know that already..)[/QUOTE]

The only reason I was doing that is because everywhere the guy post he puts Joey on a pedalistal when he really isn't as good as vashts80 likes to think. Like the post where he posted all of those other drummers that are clearly better then him but then goes "Joey goddamn Jordison" like he slays them all.

BLS_Infernus 03-01-2006 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Nope. Call of Ktulu>Orion

I was going to say Orion was too repetitive. But oh me! Both repeat riffs often. Buy I prefer the badas[size=2]s[/size]ness of the main Ktulu riff over Orion's riff, which runs a bit too slow... IN MY OPINION.

/Adds nothing constructive to the topic[/QUOTE]

123, I find Orion to long for the guitar work. To Live is to Die is magic though. I think I still like Ktulu over that.

Chu 03-01-2006 09:10 PM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]The only reason I was doing that is because everywhere the guy post he puts Joey on a pedalistal when he really isn't as good as vashts80 likes to think. Like the post where he posted all of those other drummers that are clearly better then him but then goes "Joey goddamn Jordison" like he slays them all.[/QUOTE]
Who cares? He's obviously not the best drummer in the world, I think everyone knows that anyway, but he's still pretty ****en good.

Five Magics 03-01-2006 10:19 PM

What's this talk about a funk/thrash album because of Rick Rubin? He also has produced Audioslave and System of a Down albums.

He is the perfect need for Metallica, its like a good sports team gone bad, and they need a new coach to change things up.

BLS_Infernus 03-01-2006 10:28 PM

Those example IMHO aren't good but he has produced many Slayer albums. If it would be funk it would come from Rob but it won't be thrash. Metallica has said that they were one of the first few bands to have that thrash sound but they moved away from it as quickly as they could. People classify them as thrash but the only real thrash album is Kill 'Em All.

.:Thrasher:. 03-02-2006 12:59 AM

[QUOTE=BLS_Infernus]Those example IMHO aren't good but he has produced many Slayer albums. If it would be funk it would come from Rob but it won't be thrash. Metallica has said that they were one of the first few bands to have that thrash sound but they moved away from it as quickly as they could. People classify them as thrash but the only real thrash album is Kill 'Em All.[/QUOTE]

agreed except of the getting out of thrash as soon as they could.

After KEA is was practicly heavy metal with some thrash roots in it(RTL to MOP) but with AJFA that album was heavy metal with very little thrash.

I dont think that they wanted to abandon there genre but then Bob came along and ****ed it all up. Its not like Cliff was keeping the Thrash in the band.

PepsiMetal 03-02-2006 01:26 AM

Well Bob couldn't have done anything himself. They did make all the music, and if they wanted to go different path they would have gotten a different producer. I'm quite sure they enjoyed what they have done, even with all the changes and every album being different.

Jev 03-02-2006 01:45 AM

[QUOTE=.:Thrasher:.]
I dont think that they wanted to abandon there genre but then Bob came along and ****ed it all up. Its not like Cliff was keeping the Thrash in the band.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say Bob is to blame. As said, Bob didn't write the music. However, he could have influenced them by telling them "it sounds good" etc. And affected the final recording of the song.
If you get what I mean.

SimonCore 03-02-2006 03:45 AM

[QUOTE=Five Magics]What's this talk about a funk/thrash album because of Rick Rubin? He also has produced Audioslave and System of a Down albums.

He is the perfect need for Metallica, its like a good sports team gone bad, and they need a new coach to change things up.[/QUOTE]

Rick Rubin did Slayer aswell.

Jev 03-02-2006 04:03 AM

[QUOTE=Five Magics]What's this talk about a funk/thrash album because of Rick Rubin? He also has produced Audioslave and System of a Down albums.
[/QUOTE]
He's produced Slayer and Red Hot Chili Peppers. This is where the thrash/funk idea came from.

SimonCore 03-02-2006 09:15 AM

I think he produces it acording to the bands style. Slayer are thrash and there CD's are purely thrash, Chillis are funk metal, and there CD's are very funk/metal. So i'd imagine Metallicas next CD will be [B]METAL[/B]

Kyle 03-02-2006 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=SimonCore]I think he produces it acording to the bands style. Slayer are thrash and there CD's are purely thrash, Chillis are funk metal, and there CD's are very funk/metal. So i'd imagine Metallicas next CD will be [B]METAL[/B][/QUOTE]Chillis are funk [B]metal[/B]? I know they used to have a heavier sound than they do now, but metal is pushing it. I hope your right about the Metallica direction though...METAL sounds good to me.

Metallica thread on the second page...zomg:eek:

SimonCore 03-02-2006 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=Kyle]Chillis are funk [B]metal[/B]? I know they used to have a heavier sound than they do now, but metal is pushing it. I hope your right about the Metallica direction though...METAL sounds good to me.
[/QUOTE]

Well Funk/rock then. I dunno what would put them under?

Josh 03-02-2006 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=SimonCore]Well Funk/rock then. I dunno what would put them under?[/QUOTE]
chili's are funk rock, i'd say.
even if the next 'tallica album is just plain metal, it should still be awesome. even another album in the style of load/reload would be good.

Kyle 03-02-2006 02:13 PM

[QUOTE=SimonCore]Well Funk/rock then. I dunno what would put them under?[/QUOTE]yeah, that sounds about right.

There isn't a 'Tallica album that I don't like, so I can't imagine me not liking the new one...specially with Rob on the new album.

Josh 03-02-2006 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=Kyle]yeah, that sounds about right.

There isn't a 'Tallica album that I don't like, so I can't imagine me not liking the new one...specially with Rob on the new album.[/QUOTE]
i hope they let him in on the writing process, the music should be really great if they do. it'll still be good otherwise, but if he doesn't get to write, they'll be missing out.

Kyle 03-02-2006 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=Josh]i hope they let him in on the writing process, the music should be really great if they do. it'll still be good otherwise, but if he doesn't get to write, they'll be missing out.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm sure he'll be in on the writing though. They seemed amazed at how good he was on bass when he first joined the band, so I'm sure they would want his abilities to really shine on the new album; especially after having quiet bass sounds for years with Jason.

Josh 03-02-2006 02:24 PM

[QUOTE=Kyle]Yeah I'm sure he'll be in on the writing though. They seemed amazed at how good he was on bass when he first joined the band, so I'm sure they would want his abilities to really shine on the new album; especially after having quiet bass sounds for years with Jason.[/QUOTE]
yeh, although Jason did help write one of my favourite songs (My Friend Of Misery), but i do wish you could here the bass more on his albums (and hearing it on AJFA would be good!)

SimonCore 03-02-2006 02:34 PM

'For whom the bell tolls' has the most bass on it i'd say. That's always a good opener.

PepsiMetal 03-02-2006 03:20 PM

Yea if you don't consider pulling teeth which is basically all bass.


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