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\m/Pete\m/ 03-22-2005 02:10 PM

oh ok

Cain 03-22-2005 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]Any way you can scan it and upload it? I'd love to see it.[/QUOTE]

I could probably do that when I get back to school in a week...I don't have a scanner here unfortunately. :(

It's really cool though. The sigils hovering over everyone's heads were especially fun to draw...Virgil's got two angelic sigils, for Saturday's and Thursday's angels...I forget their names...because he's Dante's guide and needs divine protection while showing him through Hell, since Dante is a living mortal when he ventures there. The demons all have their sigils that I got off magick sites on the Net. Beelzebub has a goat's skull for a head, while Lucifuge and Astaroth are fairly standard-type demons...flaming bodies, blackened and burnt angel wings, flaming feet.

One neat touch I added is that all the demons weeping blood from their eyes. This is because, since Hell and indeed evil itself is not a kingdom or continuum unto itself, but a realm in which divine justice is meted out by God, the demons are ones in Hell who have the greatest punishments meted out to them, because they had tasted perfection in Heaven and are now suffering the worst possible imperfection and pain as demons in Hell. (my interpretation)

\m/Pete\m/ 03-22-2005 02:18 PM

wow i just figured out i can play Shedding Skin (Pantera) easier downpicked the alternate

weird

RCA 03-22-2005 02:20 PM

That seems very interesting. Isn't Dante's Inferno a book or a series of books? I remember seeing a special about them on the History Channel.

Otherside 03-22-2005 02:21 PM

I'm sure everyone(in the US) has heard of the school shootings... well this is from MSN news..


"Student Sondra Hegstrom, 17, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Weise was into Goth culture, wore "a big old black trench coat," drew pictures of skeletons, listened to heavy metal music and "talked about death all the time.""

Why couldn't he just commited suicide, instead of doing this crap and then having it blamed on "evil heavy metal music".

Shred Danson 03-22-2005 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]There you go.[/QUOTE]

123.

Cain 03-22-2005 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=Otherside]Everyone should take this quiz:

[url]http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv[/url][/QUOTE]

Oh, is that the test where you'll figure out which circle of Hell you'll go to?

Shred Danson 03-22-2005 02:23 PM

Seacrest Out.

Otherside 03-22-2005 02:24 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Oh, is that the test where you'll figure out which circle of Hell you'll go to?[/QUOTE]

Yup.

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:26 PM

Thinking about that website I want to do this summer got me thinking about just what I want to name it. It's strange, but I often have very little problem naming characters. When it comes to naming everything else, it's a whole 'nother story.

Sadly, all the good names have already been taken. Midnight Syndicate, White Wolf Studios, Dead Gentlemen Productions, The Midnight Society (which I'm actually a member of)...

That's the kind of name I want, but I don't feel like getting sued.

Cain 03-22-2005 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]That seems very interesting. Isn't Dante's Inferno a book or a series of books? I remember seeing a special about them on the History Channel.[/QUOTE]

The Inferno is one book in his series "The Divine Comedy." The other two books are entitled "Purgatorio," where Dante and Virgil emerge from the Inferno and climb the Mount of Purgatory while traveling to heaven, and the last is "Paradiso" where Dante goes to heaven.

"Inferno's" the best out of all of them, for obvious reasons. The description of Lucifer is particularly amazing. Mostly because you get the sense that he's the most despicable, loathsome thing in existance and feels all the pain of being such. He has three faces and all of them are weeping, for instance. A pathetic image really: you get no sense that Satan is "the all-powerful king of evil" he's made out to be. In the poem, he's just the most prominent, most corrupted among the ****ed.

Cain 03-22-2005 02:29 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Thinking about that website I want to do this summer got me thinking about just what I want to name it. It's strange, but I often have very little problem naming characters. When it comes to naming everything else, it's a whole 'nother story.

Sadly, all the good names have already been taken. Midnight Syndicate, White Wolf Studios, Dead Gentlemen Productions, The Midnight Society (which I'm actually a member of)...

That's the kind of name I want, but I don't feel like getting sued.[/QUOTE]

Cerberus Productions. :)

NP: "Reel Around the Sun" - Riverdance, the Show

i am the robots 03-22-2005 02:29 PM

Exactly why the modern idea of Satanism is retarded bullsh[color=white]i[/color]t.

There is no empowerment from being like a little kid and rebelling against God, because he doesn't want you to steal, rape, and kill.

RCA 03-22-2005 02:30 PM

I definately need to pick some of those books, especially Inferno.

Here's my results of that test:

[QUOTE=Dante's Inferno Test Thing]You have come to a place mute of all light, where the wind bellows as the sea does in a tempest. This is the realm where the lustful spend eternity. Here, sinners are blown around endlessly by the unforgiving winds of unquenchable desire as punishment for their transgressions. The infernal hurricane that never rests hurtles the spirits onward in its rapine, whirling them round, and smiting, it molests them. You have betrayed reason at the behest of your appetite for pleasure, and so here you are doomed to remain. Cleopatra and Helen of Troy are two that share in your fate.[/QUOTE]

Cain 03-22-2005 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]Exactly why the modern idea of Satanism is retarded bullsh[color=white]i[/color]t.

There is no empowerment from being like a little kid and rebelling against God, because he doesn't want you to steal, rape, and kill.[/QUOTE]

Actually, the modern version of Satanism is reputed to be very different from either of those things. There's a thread on it in Politics. Check it out.

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]Exactly why the modern idea of Satanism is retarded bullsh[color=white]i[/color]t.

There is no empowerment from being like a little kid and rebelling against God, because he doesn't want you to steal, rape, and kill.[/QUOTE]

Actually, LaVeyan Satanism rejects Christian theology.

But after reading the description of Lucifer in the Inferno, it sounds like devil-worship would make you more of an emo kid than anything else.

i am the robots 03-22-2005 02:34 PM

Yes Steerpike, I know this, that's why I said Modern Satanism, as in the people who say, "God sucks, I worship Satan,"

Cain 03-22-2005 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]I definately need to pick some of those books, especially Inferno.

Here's my results of that test:[/QUOTE]

That's not too bad. You're only in the Second Circle.

My favorite part of the poem with the exception of the description I mentioned of Lucifer is the inscription on the Gate to Hell, in the Ante-Inferno:

"Through me the way to the Suffering City,
Through me the way to the Eternal Pain,
Through me the way that runs among the lost.
Justice urged on my high artificer;
My maker was divine authority,
The Highest wisdom, and the primal love.
Before me nothing but eternal things
were made, and I endure eternally.
Abandon every hope, who enter here."

RCA 03-22-2005 02:36 PM

Emos that worship Satan...they're just asking for it aren't they? :lol:

Cain 03-22-2005 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Eleventeen]Yes Steerpike, I know this, that's why I said Modern Satanism, as in the people who say, "God sucks, I worship Satan,"[/QUOTE]

You're still wrong. The Satan that is worshipped by the kind of Satanism Steerpike is talking about is Satan as a Pan, Satyr-type diety, not the king of darkness and evil.

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Cerberus Productions. :)[/QUOTE]

I've batted around a couple of names along the lines of:

Witching Hour Studios
Lunar Omen Productions
Wolfheart Studios

Something like that. In case you haven't noticed, I have a thing for the themes of night, wolves in particular.

i am the robots 03-22-2005 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]Emos that worship Satan...they're just asking for it aren't they? :lol:[/QUOTE]

heh, exactly, I know an emo neo-nazi, his name is Zane Paul, and he goes to school dressed like Hitler.

RCA 03-22-2005 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]That's not too bad. You're only in the Second Circle.

My favorite part of the poem with the exception of the description I mentioned of Lucifer is the inscription on the Gate to Hell, in the Ante-Inferno:

"Through me the way to the Suffering City,
Through me the way to the Eternal Pain,
Through me the way that runs among the lost.
Justice urged on my high artificer;
My maker was divine authority,
The Highest wisdom, and the primal love.
Before me nothing but eternal things
were made, and I endure eternally.
Abandon every hope, who enter here."[/QUOTE]

I like that. How much do those books run?

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:40 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]You're still wrong. The Satan that is worshipped by the kind of Satanism Steerpike is talking about is Satan as a Pan, Satyr-type diety, not the king of darkness and evil.[/QUOTE]

The m,odern Church of Satan doesn't even believe Lucifer ever existed in any way, shape, or form. They merely uphold him as an ideal of the willingness to be true to oneself no matter the price. "Better to rule in Hell than to be a servant in Heaven."

\m/Pete\m/ 03-22-2005 02:40 PM

Level 1 - Limbo

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Charon ushers you across the river Acheron, and you find yourself upon the brink of grief's abysmal valley. You are in Limbo, a place of sorrow without torment. You encounter a seven-walled castle, and within those walls you find rolling fresh meadows illuminated by the light of reason, whereabout many shades dwell. These are the virtuous pagans, the great philosophers and authors, unbaptised children, and others unfit to enter the kingdom of heaven. You share company with Caesar, Homer, Virgil, Socrates, and Aristotle. There is no punishment here, and the atmosphere is peaceful, yet sad.

\m/Pete\m/ 03-22-2005 02:41 PM

thats where i went

Cain 03-22-2005 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Actually, LaVeyan Satanism rejects Christian theology.

But after reading the description of Lucifer in the Inferno, it sounds like devil-worship would make you more of an emo kid than anything else.[/QUOTE]

Another neat thing about that description is that Satan's three faces are devouring the most prominent sinners under God. Lucifer resides in the Ninth Circle, fourth Ring, where Traitors against their Benefactors go (this is the greatest sin against God in Dante's mind; these sinners are also, as is Lucifer, almost totally covered in ice: no fire in this part of Hell.) One of Lucifer's mouths, therefore, is devouring Brutus (Caesar's assassin), and the other two are devouring Cassius and Judas.

Otherside 03-22-2005 02:41 PM

[QUOTE]Charon ushers you across the river Acheron, and you find yourself upon the brink of grief's abysmal valley. You are in Limbo, a place of sorrow without torment. You encounter a seven-walled castle, and within those walls you find rolling fresh meadows illuminated by the light of reason, whereabout many shades dwell. These are the virtuous pagans, the great philosophers and authors, unbaptised children, and others unfit to enter the kingdom of heaven. You share company with Caesar, Homer, Virgil, Socrates, and Aristotle. There is no punishment here, and the atmosphere is peaceful, yet sad.[/QUOTE]


That doesn't sound to bad.

Cain 03-22-2005 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]I like that. How much do those books run?[/QUOTE]

Price-wise? As much, maybe a bit more than an average paperback novel.

RCA 03-22-2005 02:44 PM

If Satan devours someone, do they die again? Or do they eternally melt in his stomach?

Cain 03-22-2005 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=Otherside]That doesn't sound to bad.[/QUOTE]

That's not bad at all. You're in Limbo, I gather, which means that your heart is good and worthy and your only pain and torture is through the lack of being able to see and touch God. (And the best part is that Jesus can bail you out.)

Otherside 03-22-2005 02:47 PM

No, I got second level.. but first level sounds like it'd be a good place to be.

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]If Satan devours someone, do they die again? Or do they eternally melt in his stomach?[/QUOTE]

Sounds more like you become Satan's new Everlasting Gobstopper.

RCA 03-22-2005 02:48 PM

Yeah, the first level doesn't seem bad at all.

RCA 03-22-2005 02:49 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Sounds more like you become Satan's new Everlasting Gobstopper.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I bet he likes the cherry-flavored ones.

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:50 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]That's not bad at all. You're in Limbo, I gather, which means that your heart is good and worthy and your only pain and torture is through the lack of being able to see and touch God. (And the best part is that Jesus can bail you out.)[/QUOTE]

Sounds kind of like my life already. That ain't so bad.

At any rate, this is the most sense Hell has ever made to me. If you're a good soul, but didn't believe in God, you go to this place where the only drawback is that it always feels like it's about to rain. Not bad.

And Jesus can bail me out, you say?

Otherside 03-22-2005 02:51 PM

The Malebolge sounds like the worst to me. It would suck to be there.

Steerpike 03-22-2005 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=RippingCorpseAttack]:lol:

I bet he likes the cherry-flavored ones.[/QUOTE]

He probably likes the gooey filling.

LordDargon 03-22-2005 02:54 PM

I was in level 5, the Styx.

RCA 03-22-2005 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]He probably likes the gooey filling.[/QUOTE]

I'd imagine he would, what's a good Satan without a taste for gooey innards?


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