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Sweet.

Anybody have anything by First Blood or Bold?

I have a demo from First Blood.

Anyone have LOJ?

So why are hardcore kids such arrogant douchebags?

No offense to you guys, I mean hardcore kids in general.

Sorry, I just had a bunch of annoyances with people around here lately.

Hardcore kids are probably the least "douche baggish" of a "group" you're going to find.

Not all of them. I only have a problem with the super macho hardcore guys. The group of people that gets to me are the biker guys. The type if guys that wear the baggy and sagging dickies, the Famous shirts, short hair, hats, and drive a pick up. I hate those people.

You mean bros.

I mean, in my area everyone seems to act like they know more than everyone else and that they are better than everyone else. Not to mention, they are all just trendy kids that would go ballistic at the idea of someone calling them trendy. They all seem to think that if you aren't standing around like a statue or dancing, then you have no right to have fun. Can't some guys just have a normal good ol' mosh pit?

I was under this assumption that hardcore was a friendly and positive genre and culture, but I am really losing faith in my scene. They take everything too the extreme, and are just stubborn morons.

You live in Kentucky.

Yeah, if you're gonna give up on hardcore because your scene (Kentucky) sucks, then I'm baffled.

I'm not giving up on hardcore! :p

It's just that I want to be able to go out to shows and have fun, with everybody cooperating and not being a jackass. I don't know how to make any difference either, because I am only known for running my forum, and people don't even recognize me by face. What could be other ways I could try to help the scene whiel gaining some local respect? If I can get a better reputation, people may actually listen to me.

These local morons preach about "unity" and "brotherhood" but seem to squabble like little girls constantly. I want to make them stop.

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]I mean, in my area everyone seems to act like they know more than everyone else and that they are better than everyone else. Not to mention, they are all just trendy kids that would go ballistic at the idea of someone calling them trendy. They all seem to think that if you aren't standing around like a statue or dancing, then you have no right to have fun. Can't some guys just have a normal good ol' mosh pit?

I was under this assumption that hardcore was a friendly and positive genre and culture, but I am really losing faith in my scene. They take everything too the extreme, and are just stubborn morons.[/QUOTE]
1. You live in Kentucky, as mentioned before.
2. You like deathcore. Not to bag on deathcore, I like deathcore a whole hell of a lot, but it's smack in the middle of a bunch of different scenes and has no real group of specific kids. You get a lot of douchebags at those sort of shows.
3. Most hardcore fans I know are some of the most open-minded and devoted people I've ever met.

The deathcore thing hasn't really taken effect around here, it's just a thing my friend and I have been toying around with, since I may be joining his band very soon. I don't even think it's a real genre yet, which is what we plan to fix. :cool:

So basically, Kentucky just blows?

What about the Louisville area?

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]The deathcore thing hasn't really taken effect around here, it's just a thing my friend and I have been toying around with, since I may be joining his band very soon. I don't even think it's a real genre yet, which is what we plan to fix. :cool:

So basically, Kentucky just blows?

What about the Louisville area?[/QUOTE]
If deathcore is "death metal/hardcore" to you, then of course it's a genre. It's been around for Christ knows how long.

That's what I mean, but my deathcore thread didn't give me enough bands to think of it as a full-blown genre. It just seems to be a small branch off of metalcore. Many bands mentioned in that thread aren't even -core at all.

Got some suggestions? :)

I posted somewhere in that thread a bunch of different bands.

Basically I mentioned early Converge, for sure. You need to listen to that sort of stuff because it was real influential in that area. Then there's a lot of death metal-influenced metalcore, like some old Darkest Hour, Animosity, Glass Casket, BTBAM, Red Chord. I'm really digging on Animosity right now.

The only problem with it being a genre is that we already have metalcore, grind (which already toes the line between death metal, thrash and hardcore), crust, power violence, all sorts of other scenes. We don't need a new name for old hat.

Glass Casket, BTBAM, Red Chord, and Converge are all bands I love. I haven't heard Animosity, I don't think. I haven't heard much Darkest Hour, but I never really thought of them as death at all.

Chances are, if you posted in that thread, I checked out some of the bands and didn't consider them to be what i was looking for, and moved on. I should go check some of the older posts in there, just in case I went over something.

Got any suggestions for bands that lean more towards the hardcore side of the spectrum? (sorry, don't mean to be buggin' ya, if I am)

I see what you mean with the genre confusion, which is one reason I'm don't really say that it's a genre yet. I'm just listening around right now, so i can get an idea of what elements would be best used to make deathcore a realized genre.

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]I haven't heard Animosity, I don't think. I haven't heard much Darkest Hour, but I never really thought of them as death at all.[/QUOTE]
Animosity rules. And old Darkest Hour is deathy. New stuff isn't even close really.
[QUOTE]Got any suggestions for bands that lean more towards the hardcore side of the spectrum? (sorry, don't mean to be buggin' ya, if I am)

I see what you mean with the genre confusion, which is one reason I'm don't really say that it's a genre yet. I'm just listening around right now, so i can get an idea of what elements would be best used to make deathcore a realized genre.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that I don't think you can have "death metal/hardcore". It's a sort of misnomer. You can have "death metal/metalcore", because once you add metal to hardcore you've pretty much lost what was really hardcore to begin with. That's just my opinion.

Most of the death metal/metalcore bands are the ones either incorporating Swedish death metal stuff into what has become the popular conception of "metalcore", or they're crustier or grindier bands who I think have more of a hang on what metalcore really is. I just tend to gravitate torwards the sort of original Converge-style metalcore with death metal influences in place of the Darkest Hour/Black Dahlia Murder type stuff. So I dig stuff like Ayat Akrass, Animosity, Bodies In The Gears Of The Apparatus, stuff like that.

Sounds good. I will check out these bands asap. :thumb:

You sound like you have a similar aste to me in this area.

I might go to a Shattered Realm show on sunday, mainly just to see Bitter End.

I would go just for Shattered Realm. I found myself singing This World Is Mine all last night outside of Showcase.

SD: Animosity is exactly the kind of band I've been looking for. You can clearly hear the hardcore and death in them. Most bands like BTBAM and Glass Casket seem to lean more towards death than they do hardcore or metalcore. Those other bands I couldn't find anything for, unless I waited in queue behind hundreds of other people.

Adora and Bleeding Through are gonna be going through California in November.

Homecoming was pretty cool.

Here's my pic.:
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[QUOTE=shane italian]Adora and Bleeding Through are gonna be going through California in November.[/QUOTE]
I like Bleeding Through. :-/

Why does everyone hate them?

You're a hottie Sam.

[QUOTE=YOURESORAD]'grindcore' is retarded.[/QUOTE]
Shut up.