why should fat mike's success dictate what he's allowed to have opinions on?

The Decline live would be amazing, but the word on the street is that they only play it on really special occasions.

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]The Decline live would be amazing, but the word on the street is that they only play it on really special occasions.[/QUOTE]

Their last tour, they played it in every city they played. Wasn't it called the Decline tour or something? Well, if you didn't get to see them play it on this recent tour, you might not get the chance...

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]The Decline live would be amazing, but the word on the street is that they only play it on really special occasions.[/QUOTE]
I saw it. It was a religious experience..... hands down the best thing i've ever seen live.

[QUOTE=ThePassionofTheKaseyPart2]why should fat mike's success dictate what he's allowed to have opinions on?[/QUOTE]
123 ....Especially since he's really done a lot to contribute to the scene that gave him his success.

NOFX are alright. I wouldn't go crazy over them though. Their best song is probably Bob. Is it me or does Fat Mike sound like Eric Cartman of South Park?

I downloaded WIWC and it sounds like every other NOFX album released since the late 90s.

Is that a bad thing?

[QUOTE=yourstruly]Is that a bad thing?[/QUOTE]

except for the Decline, yes.

I'd love to see The Decline live, such a good song. I think the best part of it is the trombone riff and the guitar does it, at the end. So cool.

Just going back to Propaghandi for sec, whats their best (or one of their best) albums? I wanna check out some of their stuff as I don't really know but a lot of people say they're good. Where should I start? Or just pick any random one?

[QUOTE=Kickflip_Burrito]I'd love to see The Decline live, such a good song. I think the best part of it is the trombone riff and the guitar does it, at the end. So cool.

[B]Just going back to Propaghandi for sec, whats their best (or one of their best) albums? I wanna check out some of their stuff as I don't really know but a lot of people say they're good. Where should I start? Or just pick any random one?[/B][/QUOTE]

If you like the funny-pop-punk/punk stuff more like NOFX, get How To Clean Everything. If you like faster punk stuff, get Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes.

[I]Less Talk, More Rock[/I] >

[QUOTE=Kickflip_Burrito]Just going back to Propaghandi for sec, whats their best (or one of their best) albums? I wanna check out some of their stuff as I don't really know but a lot of people say they're good. Where should I start? Or just pick any random one?[/QUOTE]

I would get any of them, other than Potemkin City Limits. On each album they change a lot, so for instance, How To Clean Everything doesn't sound anything like Today's Empires.

Is the decline live available anywhere on film?

It is without doubt Nofx's best work ever.

[QUOTE=FloggingMurphy]If you like the funny-pop-punk/punk stuff more like NOFX, get How To Clean Everything. If you like faster punk stuff, get Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Weezerfan_returns]I would get any of them, other than Potemkin City Limits. On each album they change a lot, so for instance, How To Clean Everything doesn't sound anything like Today's Empires.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the input guys, its helped me out :chug: I'll probs try and get 'Todays Empires, Tomorrows Ashes' first, sounds like my kinda thing.

Just listened to 'Wolves In Wolves Clothing' and I think its pretty darn good. 'Instant Crassic' makes me laugh....well, the first time I heard it anyway.

The only song I don't really like is 'You Will Lose Faith' though it is good in places.

[QUOTE=Kickflip_Burrito]Just listened to 'Wolves In Wolves Clothing' and I think its pretty darn good. 'Instant Crassic' makes me laugh....well, the first time I heard it anyway.

The only song I don't really like is 'You Will Lose Faith' though it is good in places.[/QUOTE] You Will Lose Faith is probably my favorite song on that album.

[QUOTE=Kickflip_Burrito]Thanks for the input guys, its helped me out :chug: I'll probs try and get 'Todays Empires, Tomorrows Ashes' first, sounds like my kinda thing.[/QUOTE]
If you get Empires, and don't really like it, you should def. check out one of their first two albums, since they're so different.

Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Weezerfan_returns]You Will Lose Faith is probably my favorite song on that album. [/QUOTE]
Hmm nah, I much prefer USA-Holes, Seeing Double at The Triple Rock, Encantado en Espanol and Benny Got Blowed Up. 60% is pretty cool too.

Seeing Double at the Triple Rock is my favourite song and second would have to be The man i Killed

i listen to nofx too

yeah, but no-one likes you

Rofl

True Dat

This CD has been in my player for a over a month now

[QUOTE=Drop The Baby]This CD has been in my player for a over a month now[/QUOTE]
Which one? Wolves In Wolves Clothing?

[quote=DBoon's Ghost]Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.[/quote]

I would be comfoy with them if they just shut up :p

[QUOTE=DaveToopes]Nice coverup.
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I don't get it. Anyway, I'm seeing triple at the double rock.

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]Just to reiterate on my earlier point, in regards to their success as a band as well as Fat Mike's success with Fat Wreck, it skewers perception.

Example being. Punk and it's morals stem from struggle both socially and economically. Fat Mike would like you to believe otherwise.

So, in effect, the fact that he got rich off punk, coupled with NOFX's meager beginnings as a slapstick band in the vein of Dead Milkmen, it annoys me when he tries to relate to the plights we as common folk endure, and it's worse that he pushes his own agenda on the youth that look so much up to them.

It's a dangerous combination. I would be more comfy with them as a band if they just shut up and play.[/QUOTE]
Just read this.

Yeah fair points really all around, as is generally the way with whatever you post DBoon. For me personally though, I don't really involve myself in Punk culture [i]at all[/i], I merely listen to a few 'Punk' bands. Probably living on the other side of the world and not being a teenager helps to avoid any bullsh*t or other agendas bands involve themselves in.

I think the title track of the album blows the other songs out of the water.

i think there's a lot better tracks than the title track, although it is a great song.