Okay, I have 2 200 watt Kustom Speakers, a mixer with 8 inputs, and 1 400 watt power amp, i was wondering if I could buy for example, 2 100 watt monitors or something, would i have to buy a 600 watt power amp, or could i buy a 200 watt power amp and like run one power amp to the other and have them like combine power, or something.

[QUOTE=iron_lion]Okay, I have 2 200 watt Kustom Speakers, a mixer with 8 inputs, and 1 400 watt power amp, i was wondering if I could buy for example, 2 100 watt monitors or something, would i have to buy a 600 watt power amp, or could i buy a 200 watt power amp and like run one power amp to the other and have them like combine power, or something.[/QUOTE]

You could use your current speakers on stands as monitors, and use your current poweramp to power them. You could then guy some bigger speakers and a bigger poweramp, probably have to be getting towards 2x300 for it to be worth it. I presume you have enough mixer inpus for your needs?

help....
 

would it be better (in the long run) to buy a mixer seperately ,and then some speakers, or a whole PA system
were looking at:
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or,
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with 2
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would i need a power amp?

should i get a subwoofer or a bass cabinet....


(please help us)

If you got the mixer and speakers, you'd need a power amp.

you wouldn't need a subwoofer, those aare full range cabs. Using one COULD improve your sound, but there are more important things to buy at your level.

The package should do you fine, but in the long run, you might be glad you bought the seperates. Its up to you.

Have a powered mixer(200 watts), and 2 amps(15 and 20 watt)...

Can we make the pa-mixer output to them instead of speakers for a couple of months?

[QUOTE=LivingDeadBoy]Have a powered mixer(200 watts), and 2 amps(15 and 20 watt)...

Can we make the pa-mixer output to them instead of speakers for a couple of months?[/QUOTE]

no, it'll burn out without a correct speaker load attatched.

you can get speakers very cheap on ebay (£100 for a pair of 1x12s BIN, i once did see).

but we tried it yesterday evening and it all worked O.o...
the problem is... right now we got -200$..

[QUOTE=LivingDeadBoy]but we tried it yesterday evening and it all worked O.o...
the problem is... right now we got -200$..[/QUOTE]

shame.

The poweramp is always operational in your PA, so it is slowly melting it. the only way it would work would be to disconnect the speakers form the practice amps, fit a jack plug to the end and plug them in like that. But, you wouldn't be able to turn the amps on, and also, you could blow the speakers, from too much power.

jack socket sorry.

gah **** that sucks... must get speakers... fast...

wait.. How does that happen???

[QUOTE=LivingDeadBoy]wait.. How does that happen???[/QUOTE]

the amp doesn't know that you've got no speakers plugged in, since its designed only to be used with speakers. so it tries to run, but there's no speakers to go to, so it just starts to fry itself.

[QUOTE=moaner]you wouldn't need a subwoofer, those aare full range cabs. Using one COULD improve your sound, but there are more important things to buy at your level.[/QUOTE]

could a bass cab work like a subwoofer?

but wait... we take the speaker outputs and direct it to our amplifiers(combos), so basically the thing that should fry after time is the amplifiers of the combos. not the pa system..

[QUOTE=LivingDeadBoy]but wait... we take the speaker outputs and direct it to our amplifiers(combos), so basically the thing that should fry after time is the amplifiers of the combos. not the pa system..[/QUOTE]
There is a very large chance you could do damage to both.
I would not reccomend it.
I would only reccomend you run the speaker outputs of your powered mixer into suitable speaker loads.

wuold this be a good pa system?
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with
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please help we dont really want to waste our time or money....we have little money to spend

I've got a few questions that no one answered before. How do you wire speakers in parallel? Is there just another output on the speaker that goes between two of them? We just got two squier loudspeakers that are 300W RMS. If they can be wired in parallel, then the biggest power amp we could get would be 2x600W @ 4 ohms, right? Also, you've said before that you should buy a power amp w/ a little more wattage than the speakers so clipping doesn't happen. Is there a certain percent that the power amp is supposed to be over the speakers? Basically, I'm trying to figure out the right size power amp to get the most volume from our speakers and the right amount of headroom, and they only have one input so if there's a seperate one you have to have for parallel, we can't do it. But please tell me what size would be right for both if we could and couldn't wire in parallel. Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=BlinkRockr41]Also, you've said before that you should buy a power amp w/ a little more wattage than the speakers so clipping doesn't happen. Is there a certain percent that the power amp is supposed to be over the speakers? Basically, I'm trying to figure out the right size power amp to get the most volume from our speakers and the right amount of headroom,[/QUOTE]


what if your power amp is exacly the amount of watts as ur speakers(at the same amount of ohms)

Yay I took apart my home entertainment system speakers, since i didn't use it in years. So now i have 2 100 watt speakers...

Connected it all, now this is how it runs:
Instruments>>Mixer>> Speaker Outputs(1 and 2) >> Speakers
\
\_>> Monitor Output >> Amp1 >> Line out of Amp1 >> Amp2
--------------------

Works awesome... :) Is it good?

[QUOTE=meizmatt]wuold this be a good pa system?

please help we dont really want to waste our time or money....we have little money to spend[/QUOTE]
Yes, That will work.
But for your money (also including the mics and necessary cables to plug everything in with). You may be able to get a very similar packaged setup for less.
If you are on a budget and want to go for individual units. You could see how you go on Ebay?

[QUOTE=BlinkRockr41]I've got a few questions that no one answered before. How do you wire speakers in parallel? Is there just another output on the speaker that goes between two of them? We just got two squier loudspeakers that are 300W RMS. If they can be wired in parallel, then the biggest power amp we could get would be 2x600W @ 4 ohms, right? Also, you've said before that you should buy a power amp w/ a little more wattage than the speakers so clipping doesn't happen. Is there a certain percent that the power amp is supposed to be over the speakers? Basically, I'm trying to figure out the right size power amp to get the most volume from our speakers and the right amount of headroom, and they only have one input so if there's a seperate one you have to have for parallel, we can't do it. But please tell me what size would be right for both if we could and couldn't wire in parallel. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]

Do a google search for the difference between parrallel and series circuits.
Many speaker cabinets have both an input and an output, these are usually wired in parrallel, and to connect up addition cabinets you simply daisy chain this output into the next cabinet.

Then you have to work out your ohm loading. You add the reciprocols of each of the loads, which equals the recipricol of the total load.
S1 = First speaker, S2= Second Speaker T = Total impedence.
(1/S1) + (1/S2) = (1/T)
Two 8 ohm speaker in parrallel = 4 ohms.
An 8 ohm speaker in parrallel with a 4 ohm speaker = 2.6r ohms


'Clipping' only refers to the poweramp. It has nothing to do with the speakers. If you run your rig up loud you may start to experience clipping. Most poweramps have a red LED light that indicates this. Keep an eye out for it and make sure it doesn't happen. If it does happen then make sure it is minimal.

Running it up extrememly loud will make it clip, regardless of what speakers you've got running off it.

I'd only reccomend buying an amplifier with enough headroom (watts) for you to do what you need it to do. Then, choose your speakers accordingly.
If you buy a 500 watt per channel amp and only need to run your volume down low in rder to be loud enough, then that's fine.
If you have a 100 watt per channel amp and you are running it up into clipping, then this is where problems occour.

[url]http://www.kustom.com/products/pa/kpa100.asp[/url]

For those new, is $399. Is this a good deal? Or is this Kustom PA package sh[i][b][/i][/b]it?

[QUOTE=][B]Kustom KPM 4100[/B]

100 Watts RMS Output

4 Channels

4 Balanced XLR Inputs/4 Line Level Inputs

5-Band Master Graphic Equalizer

Built-in Reverb/Echo Effect

Tone Control for each Channel

Phantom Power

[B]Kustom KSE 10 - Speakers[/B]

10-Inch High Efficiency Speaker

Power Capability: 75 Watts RMS/150 Peak

Frequency Response: 75-18K

Sensitivity: 93 db

Impedance: 8 Ohms[/QUOTE]

What if your speaker doesn't have an input and an output...

BWD: They do the job. Good for garage bands practising, and 'house party' or backyard sized gigs. But not much else.
You do get what you pay for.

LivingDeadBoy: You could wire one yourself, Or use a Parrallel splitter box. But always take note of the total ohm loadings. I'd suggest you read up on this topic further, do a google search for resources.

Well I guess that's pretty much just what we need. Just for practices or parties, because venues have PA's usually, right?

Often venues do have PAs, yes. Or you could hire one for the night.

i need some general info on on a P.A. for vocals thanx

i need some general info on vocal P.A. thanx

I'm not sure if this has been asked or not, but the search isnt working right right now and there are too many pages to look through. I just but a small 230 watt PA to mix our instruments and record to cassette with when we jam. The speaker cabs have outputs on the back of them labeled "extension"

My question is:

Is this a line out or a speaker level out?

For some reason since the board has been screwed up today this didnt go to the front.

Hopefuly now it will.