[QUOTE]Blonde On Blonde or Blood on the Tracks are usually considered essentials over Freewheelin'[/QUOTE][I]Freewheelin'[/I] represents his Folk side though. It's way different than Blood on the Tracks, Blonde On Blonde and Highway 61 Revisted and I do believe his Folk side should be well represented. You're probablly right about the Stones though I just picked one. As for Hendrix [I]Are you Expirenced[/I] just may be his most popular but not by far and [I]Electric Ladyland[/I] was far more important IMO.

[QUOTE=Med57]

I actually agree with this. The Stones are pretty much my ultimate example of a band that makes great singles, but not particularly good albums. [i]Exile On Main Street[/i] is probably my favourite Stones album, but there were so many bands that made better albums from that time in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Listen to Let it Bleed in it's entirety. IMO it's easily one of the best albums of the 60's.

Haha, I should probably change that.

[QUOTE]I love Exile. I think its probably the Stones best but everything from Beggar's Banquet- Exile is amazing. Well Beggar's Banquet isn't quite as good but is still excellent. Sticky Fingers, Let it Bleed, and Exile are all about equal with Beggar's Banquet and Some Girls right behind them. I go back and forth on favorite Stones albums though. [/QUOTE]

Their material released from the mid-1960's through Exile on Main St., save for that dreadful psychadelic album that they put out in '67 or '68, was very strong material.

[QUOTE=Schyma]As for Hendrix Are you Expirenced just may be his most popular but not by far and Electric Ladyland was far more important [b]IMO.[/b][/QUOTE]

"Essential" = subjective

[QUOTE=Schyma]Freewheelin' represents his Folk side though. It's way different than Blood on the Tracks, Blonde On Blonde and Highway 61 Revisted and I do believe his Folk side should be well represented.[/QUOTE]

If history serves me correctly, I don't think Dylan ever truly made an impact on the music in the 1960's until he went electric, so I don't think his folkie era is as essential as you would think.

[QUOTE=Med57]I actually agree with this. The Stones are pretty much my ultimate example of a band that makes great singles, but not particularly good albums. [i]Exile On Main Street[/i] is probably my favourite Stones album, but there were so many bands that made better albums from that time in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Gah! Med... :upset:
Maybe its the fanboy talking in me now but I strongly disagree with that they made 5 almost perfect albums in a row (Or close enough in a row) even their early stuff was good. Take [I]Flowers[/I] it has maybe 3 filler and the rest of the album is ace tracks; Lady Jane, My Girl, Ruby Tuesday, Mother's Little Helper... etc. or [I]Let It Bleed[/I], I personally can't find one filler on that album with maybe the exception of "Love In Vain". Don't even get me started on Exile non filler format :p. Or take a disc like [I]Sticky Fingers[/I] I'll give you "Dead Flowers" its not their best work but its nothing close to a bad song. I could rant on for hours about how they are anything but a singles band. Even [I]Their Satanic Majesties Request[/I] which is often considered the worst Stones album is pretty good if you give it a few listens, but of all the pre-73 Stones album [I]Their Satanic Majesties Request[/I] is probably the worst.

I thought it'd be longer but my computer is sorta freaking out so I don't want to have to re-type it back up.
I'm not to into this new YSI thingy that pops up and slows down your computer its stalled my comp 3 times now.

And about U2 give me [I]War[/I] over any of their stuff. The Refugee is such a good song.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]I personally can't find one filler on that album with maybe the exception of "Love In Vain".[/QUOTE]

WTF?

"Love In Vain" is like, the third best song on the album! I consider "You Got the Silver" to be the most filler-ish track on the album...it's the most forgettable, at the very elast.

[QUOTE]If history serves me correctly, I don't think Dylan ever truly made an impact on the music in the 1960's until he went electric, so I don't think his folkie era is as essential as you would think.[/QUOTE]What? I don't think [I]you[/I] know how essential it really is. He was huge when playing Folk what are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Illmatic]WTF?

"Love In Vain" is like, the third best song on the album! I consider "You Got the Silver" to be the most filler-ish track on the album...it's the most forgettable, at the very elast.[/QUOTE]
But I love Keiths voice in any song. And "Love in Vain" annoys me abit with the guitar, I'm not a big Robert Johnson fan.

[QUOTE=Schyma]What? I don't think [I]you[/I] know how essential it really is. He was huge when playing Folk what are you talking about?[/QUOTE]

He was bigger after he went electric.

[QUOTE=JonG]:lol: @ Lunch[/QUOTE]

What'd I do?

And for my attempted top ten, since I spawned this:
(Note: "Essential" albums):
The Who - Tommy
Led Zeppelin - I
Beatles - Revolver
Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Allman Brothers - Eat a Peach
Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Hendrix - AYE?

Ah crap.

[QUOTE]He was bigger after he went electric.[/QUOTE]Yea but he was still huge when he was a Folkie. "Blowin' in the Wind" was the biggest song in America at one point.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]WTF?

"Love In Vain" is like, the third best song on the album! I consider "You Got the Silver" to be the most filler-ish track on the album...it's the most forgettable, at the very elast.[/QUOTE]

I agree with that, Love in Vain is a definite highlight. You Got the Silver struck me as kind of filler when I first heard it, but I like it more the more I hear it. It's a nice laid-back countryish tune.

And I like that "dreadful psychadelic album" a lot:p

It's a very interesting album. Psychadelia wasn't the Stones strong point, and I'd rather hear blues-rock from them over psychadelia but Their Satanic Majesties Request is very underrated. I just think it's really interesting to listen to and enjoyable as long as you don't compare it to their best work.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]
If history serves me correctly, I don't think Dylan ever truly made an impact on the music in the 1960's until he went electric, so I don't think his folkie era is as essential as you would think.[/QUOTE]

I think he made much more of an impact musically, socially, and politically on Freewheelin' and The Times They Are A-Changin' than on any of his other albums put together. The only reason his "going electric" seemed to be so revolutionary was because he was known as a topical songwriter, and suddenly he wasn't singing topical songs anymore....he was singing songs that seemed to be more for entertainment.

Mind you, these "entertainment" songs were generally more popular, but a lot of people noticed that they no seemed to longer hold the substance, the inspiration, the voice, and the message that everyone knew and loved Bob Dylan for (this seemed to be the folk fans opinions more than the general American public). His going electric definitely made an impact, just like everything he did, but I can assure you songs like Highway 61 Revisted weren't as revolutionary as songs like Blowin' In The Wind.

I don't even know where I was going with this. :confused: I just like to ramble about Bob Dylan.

(but you can't say Ballad of a Thin Man had more of an impact/influenced American culture in the 60's more than say....The Times They Are A-Changin')

[QUOTE=Med57]The main problem I have with the Stones is that it's just always come across to me as being too predictable. With my favourite bands, even if there's a common theme to them (like you can always tell a Radiohead song by its vocals, or a U2 song by the fact that The Edge always has a ridiculous amount of delay-pedal usage), there's still some variation. With the Stones everything I've heard by them sounds to me that it's like they've gone into the studio and just recorded something before putting it out. Obviously they didn't, but the fact that I really dislike Mick Jaggers' voice is something that exacerbates that. As for the rest of the band, Keith Richards is a great riff writer, I'll give you that. But everyone else is just...not that interesting at all. We're so far apart on this that it's like talking to Schyma about Led Zeppelin. :p



Yeah, definitely. Being as good at either folk or "rock" as Dylan was would be a great achievement, but to make multiple great albums in both styles is what makes him as special as he is.[/QUOTE]
Um, I'm not a big U2 fan so I havent heard much by them but most of the songs I've heard by them sound the same and predictable. Besides this one.

/is probably wrong

[QUOTE]We're so far apart on this that it's like talking to Schyma about Led Zeppelin. :p[/QUOTE]Yea, but unlike Zeppelin the Stones were actualy good. :p [QUOTE]Yeah, definitely. Being as good at either folk or "rock" as Dylan was would be a great achievement, [B]but to make multiple great albums in both styles is what makes him as special as he is.[/B][/QUOTE]Not only that but I like his lyrics too. :p
[QUOTE]Highway 61 Revisted weren't as revolutionary as songs like Blowin' In The Wind.[/QUOTE]"Highway 61 Revisted" as revolutionary as "Blowin' In The Wind"? No way! Even though I love both "Blowin' in the Wind" is probably one of Dylan's most ground breaking songs. "Highway 61 Revisted" not soo much.

Oh nevermind I thought you said they were equally as revolutionary.

Are we talking the album or the song here?

[QUOTE=JonG]:lol: :lol: :lol:

Typo haha.[/QUOTE]

Best typo ever :lol:

I have come to the conclusion that the songs of Moonage Daydream and Starman are easily the best pop songs ever written.

Agreed.

[QUOTE=Livewired]Are we talking the album or the song here?[/QUOTE]

I was talking about the song. If you are talking about what I was talking about.


....:confused:

np: Bob Dylan - Queen Jane Approximately (live). :D

[QUOTE=Lunch]What'd I do?

And for my attempted top ten, since I spawned this:
(Note: "Essential" albums):
The Who - Tommy
Led Zeppelin - I
Beatles - Revolver
Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Allman Brothers - Eat a Peach
Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Hendrix - AYE?

Ah crap.[/QUOTE]
When you said "He probably likes The Grateful Dead"

:lol:

I sent out some Little Feat.

[QUOTE=Med57]A lot of their work is to be honest...they've really gone back to their older sound on their last two albums as well. But what they did in the early '90s was pretty different from what they're doing now, and alienated a lot of their fanbase. If you listen to [i]Achtung Baby[/i], it really sounds pretty different from most U2 stuff that gets played on the radio.





I would start elaborating on how much I love his lyrics, but I think everyone's probably bored of my ranting about them by now.[/QUOTE]
There's this one song I liked better than the rest, it was kinda different. It had a heavy drum beat, lyrics had the word "blue" in them, I think.

[QUOTE]I sent out some Little Feat.[/QUOTE]
I've been wanting this album for awhile. I'm pretty sure Warren Haynes and Sonny Landreth play on it, so it's gonna be awesome by default.

U2 always seemed overly "meh" to me.

[QUOTE=jpj]U2 always seemed overly "meh" to me.[/QUOTE]

Yeah...don't get me wrong, they have a few great songs from the '80s, but I dunno if I could stand a full album of theirs.

I don't see why 85% percent of the people I know (or don't know in this case) absolutly hate U2. They aren't [I]that[/I] bad

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I don't see why 85% percent of the people I know (or don't know in this case) absolutly hate U2. They aren't [I]that[/I] bad[/QUOTE]

I love U2. I think me, Thickasabrick, and Med are the only classic rock regs who are fans of them though:(. Might be leaving someone out. There really early stuff like War gets overlooked. The Joshua Tree's great, but War is better.

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I don't see why 85% percent of the people I know (or don't know in this case) absolutly hate U2. They aren't [I]that[/I] bad[/QUOTE]

agreed. i actually enjoy U2 quite a bit. i have thier new CD and i think its the best since Achtung Baby. The Joshua Tree in my opinion is one of my favorite albums, maybe ranks within one of the best. the politics in thier music may turn me off to it sometimes but the musicianship is a bit interesting to me

The lead singer of U2 thinks he is the best singer ever. I can't stand him. The Maddox article on them is incredibly funny and I love it.


[url]http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst[/url]

I like U2. They don't blow me away, but in terms of bands in the 80's and 90's I'd say they are in my top five favourites....(low standards maybe?)

[QUOTE=robo2448]I love U2. I think me, Thickasabrick, and Med are the only classic rock regs who are fans of them though:(. Might be leaving someone out. There really early stuff like War gets overlooked. The Joshua Tree's great, but War is better.[/QUOTE]
/kicks Robo

Gah I love U2. And I dunno how many times I've plugged [I]War[/I] all over MX. And I agree [I]Joshua Tree[/I] is alright but [I]War[/I] is so much better.

75% of people who hate U2 hate them because they think Bono is a prick or cocky or something like that... which is just a dumb reason to hate a band.
[QUOTE=JonG]The lead singer of U2 thinks he is the best singer ever. I can't stand him. The Maddox article on them is incredibly funny and I love it.


[url]http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst[/url][/QUOTE]
My point is proven! :P

I just heard a live version of Sunshine of Your Love from the new CD of Cream's that comes out soon. I will say my jealousy of Robo is now just setting in. Very good live song too.

I'm so mad at the freshman who is going to see Cream. As if he wasn't already so full of himself, he thinks he can hit on senior girls :lol:

oshi senior gurlz hawt

I'm not a freshman, but I'll hit on anybody I want to.

:)

Jesus Fucking Christ, Desolation Row is amazing.

Who in this thread does not agree to this statement: "Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter of the 20th century." I'm just curious.

edit - Haha, I forgot about the swear filter....who thought of fusty walrus?

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Jesus fusty walrus!ing Christ, Desolation Row is amazing.

Who in this thread does not agree to this statement: "Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter of the 20th century." I'm just curious.

edit - Haha, I forgot about the swear filter....who thought of fusty walrus?[/QUOTE]
I think it was Zakath or I remember him saying something about it first.

I don't think anyone will seriously disagree with that statement.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]
Who in this thread does not agree to this statement: "Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter of the 20th century." I'm just curious.

edit - Haha, I forgot about the swear filter....who thought of fusty walrus?[/QUOTE]


I agree.


I also think that everyone is adressing me whenever they say an obscenity. Of all the names on this forum, why did it have to be mine! WHY?!
MX must have it in for me

[QUOTE]Who in this thread does not agree to this statement: "Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter of the 20th century." I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]
Hold on, I'm trying to think of someone I can say is better without getting laughed at, just for the sake of arguement.

Um, Neil Young maybe?
[QUOTE]who thought of fusty walrus?[/QUOTE]
Jeremy, is my guess.

Man, Phish is one of the funniest bands. I just listened to their cover of Hanson's MMMBOP and I seriously fell out of my chair laughing.

I sent out Sweetheart of the Rodeo for anybody that doesn't have it. Although everybody should..


:)

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Man, Phish is one of the funniest bands. I just listened to their cover of Hanson's MMMBOP and I seriously fell out of my chair laughing.[/QUOTE]


I've never heard it, could you send it? It sounds great

[QUOTE=JonG]I sent out Sweetheart of the Rodeo for anybody that doesn't have it. Although everybody should..


:)[/QUOTE]
Thank you.

Malcom (can I still call you Malcom?): You should hear their cover of Tubthumper (you know the one that goes "I get knocked down, but I get up again").