internal affairs

edit: scratch that... both are awesome (desire is more recent)

[QUOTE=big80smullet;16917244]best pharoahe monch album if ive never heard him before?[/QUOTE]

Organized Konfusion self-titled album.

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;16917223]eh... black thought is probably one of the most underrated mcs around... but different strokes.[/QUOTE]

He's really generic and doesn't have a lot of emotion in his voice. For the new Roots sound I keep thinking someone like Akir would work well, and then his boring voice comes over and is meh.

Organized Konfusion - Stress

my only 5/5 hip-hop album.

yeah, I agree (with Rams)

I haven't heard Equinox yet though, is it as "bad" as I've heard?

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;16917243]i think both had their time in the late 90's/early 2000's... i just wish they would have been consistent. kweli's delivery/ style seems like it's changed dramatically since reflection/eternal. the production on ear drum is spot on; it's just kweli that didn't do it for me.

i can definitely see the guest comment though, especially now being past their respective primes.[/QUOTE]

i just remember how stoked i was when i heard him tear it up on Jaylib.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16917259]yeah, I agree (with Rams)

I haven't heard Equinox yet though, is it as "bad" as I've heard?[/QUOTE]

no, just overstuffed and lots of filler. its basically OK trying to make a concept album.

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;16917255]Organized Konfusion - Stress

my only 5/5 hip-hop album.[/QUOTE]

k im getting this. hopefully i like it

haven't listened to OK yet tbh... will have to check that out. jaylib was definitely tight; at least we still have madlib, black milk, and a few others to keep progressing production.

im surprised you only have one 5/5 hiphop album.

i only have 15 5/5s.

OK is better than Monch's solo career to be honest.

There are a lot of good beat makers today.

there are a lot of good beat makers, but not a lot of progressive beat makers.

yeah, understandable, i have like 10 5s or less, but am more into hiphop than anything else... deltron, el-p, and the roots round out my 5-rated hiphop.

omg KANYE!

6/5

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;16917303]there are a lot of good beat makers, but not a lot of progressive beat makers.[/QUOTE]

"Progressive" sounds like an euphemism for "bad"

what

What the hell differentiates a "good" beat maker from a "progressive" one?

Of the ones I've heard, I'd go OK - Desire - Stress - Internal Affairs in that order.

edit: wow there was a lot of posts in the last 5 minutes

Goes:

OK > Stress > Internal Affairs > Desire for me

but the margin between each is minimal

the Stress > the Desire

lol.

Stress > Desire = Internal Affairs = OK > The Equinox

even Monch's mixtapes are incredible

Stress (joint best hip-hop album with 'Illmatic' if you ask me, closely followed by 'OK', 'Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde' and 'The Low End Theory') > OK > Desire > Internal Affairs

I don't like Illmatic that much to be honest. I mean I like it, but it's a 3.5 at best for me.

[QUOTE=username345;16917362] 'Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde'[/QUOTE]
You know, shamefully, I still haven't heard this album.

i'm sure you've heard singles. DILLARIFFIC

[QUOTE=Iai;16917435]You know, shamefully, I still haven't heard this album.[/QUOTE]

It's really great. I didn't like it much at first, it's very upbeat, but it grew on me a lot. The lyrics are hilarious, the rapping's great & it has a cool 90's jazzy vibe to it.

[QUOTE]I don't like Illmatic that much to be honest. I mean I like it, but it's a 3.5 at best for me.[/QUOTE]

It's the first rap album I ever really liked.

[QUOTE=Rams;16917341]What the hell differentiates a "good" beat maker from a "progressive" one?[/QUOTE]

what differentiates a "good" rock group from a "progressive" one... or any genre for that matter. pushing the envelope my friend...

progressive producers: madlib, black milk, el-p, dilla

awesome producers: jake one, statik selektah, premier, list goes on

there's no question that what the 4 above mentioned progressive minded guys have done in the past few years has definitely shaped the face of hiphop, catapulting it into its next phase. i really don't know what to say if you can't see that. that isn't to say that i dont love jake one, or any number of guys, they're just not progressive minded.

i'd say premo was progressive once and he was so much that he can just sit and make the same beat forever because he is that good.

yeah definitely... he really did a lot for the genre. it's not like he sucks now; he's still super awesome, but he's not really evolving his style.

Just put up a review of the Blue Sky Black Death-produced album Gutta - "Heads Will Roll"

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review_28246[/url]

I'm really disappointed :(

[QUOTE=big80smullet;16916166]what is some good old school hip hop. as good as or better than regulate by warren g (if thats even possible)[/QUOTE]

Pete Rock and CL Smooth
Ultramagnetic MC's
Eric B. And Rakim
Jungle Brothers
EPMD
Jeru The Damaja
Organized Konfusion
Souls of Mischief

EPMD's new joint is decent.

can't forget about black sheep

[url]http://universoulproductions.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/omer-saar-the-green-album-free-download/[/url]

Some of the remixes on this are awesome.

anyone else make beats around here

I enjoyed the new Kanye West album even though it's completely different in style to his others. Kept reading bad reviews of it but it didn't put me off.

Anyone like Lords of the Underground?

Here Come the Lords is a classic.

downloading that album now jake(that is your name right?)

my memory is bad <_<

[QUOTE=Interstate;16928855]I enjoyed the new Kanye West album even though it's completely different in style to his others. Kept reading bad reviews of it but it didn't put me off.[/QUOTE]

i cant really get into it at all, i mean love lockdown is a pretty good song but the rest of it just didnt click with me.
then again it took me a very long time to enjoy most of his stuff so it may grow on me, although i do much prefer him to rap rather than sing

[QUOTE=JonG;16930127]Here Come the Lords is a classic.

downloading that album now jake(that is your name right?)

my memory is bad <_<[/QUOTE]

My name?

nah my boy raMs