[QUOTE=robo2448]w00t I just mastered Who'll Stop the Rain on harmonica. Yea so what if it doesn't have harmonica, there are harmonica tabs on the site and it sounds good.

Oh yea, if anyone can help me out with tabs for Midnight Rambler by the Stones for harmonica that would be great.[/QUOTE]

I can play Down on the Corner!!

[QUOTE=Lunch]Speaking of that, Schyma, did you give those live tracks from Wheels of Fire a listen?[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me. I couldn't get any results with Soul Seek last night (which is freakly strange) but I will attempt again.

To the people who downloaded [I]Tago Mago[/I]: How was it?

im 14 and classic rock is so much better than the emo **** now like its kinda funny my mom got me into bands liek led zeppelin and the who and i love them liek jimi hendrix, black sabbath, queen...they are all great

Well just know that Led Zeppelin infact suck. Other than that welcome to the forums.

[QUOTE=Schyma]Well just know that Led Zeppelin infact suck. Other than that welcome to the forums.[/QUOTE]
No.

Tago Mago: meh

For people who do enjoy Tago Mago, what you do like about?

I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just wondering.

Can someone upload all 3 songs (except "Traintime") off disc 2 of [I]Wheels of Fire[/I]?

[QUOTE=Schyma]Well just know that Led Zeppelin infact suck. Other than that welcome to the forums.[/QUOTE]

You ever notice that the typical defense for that is "Jimmy Page is the BEST guitarist, John Bonham is the BEST drummer, John Paul Jones is the BEST bassist, and Robert Plant is the BEST singer?".

I hate that.

np: Comfortably Numb

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Kraut Rock and Psychedelia aren't really the same sounding, if you ask me. In most cases, I find them very different. [/QUOTE]
Krautrock is a type of psychedelia.

[QUOTE=Schyma]Krautrock is a type of psychedelia.[/QUOTE]

Metal and Punk are a type of Rock, but they don't necessarily sound like it.

And though it doesn't necessarily mean anything, allmusic draws no connection.

Also, the only genre that I can see coming directly from Psychedelia is Neo-Psychedelic; it isn't that broad of a genre.

Krautrock is much more similar to Progressive and Experimental Rock.

Krautrock never appealed to me.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Metal and Punk are a type of Rock, but they don't necessarily sound like it.

And though it doesn't necessarily mean anything, allmusic draws no connection.

Also, the only genre that I can see coming directly from Psychedelia is Neo-Psychedelic; it isn't that broad of a genre.

Krautrock is much more similar to Progressive and Experimental Rock.[/QUOTE]
You haven't heard nearly enough to know what you're even talking about. I mean are you saying there no psychedelic elements? Sure you can call it Experimental Rock or you can call it Progressive Rock but you know all in all it will fall into psychedelia. You'd be extremly surprised at how broad Psychedelia actully is. I mean how in the hell can the Sliver Apples be in the same genre as the Moon or Os Mutantes?!?!

[QUOTE=Badmoon]Metal and Punk are a type of Rock, but they don't necessarily sound like it.

And though it doesn't necessarily mean anything, allmusic draws no connection.

Also, the only genre that I can see coming directly from Psychedelia is Neo-Psychedelic; it isn't that broad of a genre.

Krautrock is much more similar to Progressive and Experimental Rock.[/QUOTE]

krautrock sounds like German folk or something. Get it, like saurkraut.

Thank you, thank you

[QUOTE]Sure you can call it Experimental Rock or you can call it Progressive Rock but you know all in all it will fall into psychedelia.[/QUOTE]

Progressive is not a sub-genre of Psychedelia, nor is Experimental or Art Rock; if anything it is exactly the opposite. I'm sure most would agree with me. Even through the names, it shows.


[QUOTE]I mean are you saying there no psychedelic elements? [/QUOTE]

Did I say that, no; you made it up. Sure, they may have a few Psychedelic elements, but they are strongly based upon the usage of Jazz and new techniques like Techno. Which would make it much reasonable to put them under the genre of Experimental or Progressive or Art Rock.


[QUOTE]I mean how in the hell can the Sliver Apples be in the same genre as the Moon or Os Mutantes?!?![/QUOTE]

How can Kraftwerk be under the same genre as the USA, huh? At least be consistent with you claims.


I think you've been riding that Psychedelic high horse to long. Even allmusic.com (Very smart, well read web site) draws no connection to your claims and ideas. Quit overemphasising the importance of the genre Psychedelia.

[QUOTE=Canadian_Guy]You ever notice that the typical defense for that is "Jimmy Page is the BEST guitarist, John Bonham is the BEST drummer, John Paul Jones is the BEST bassist, and Robert Plant is the BEST singer?".

I hate that.

np: Comfortably Numb[/QUOTE]

I do believe I've pointed that out already :p

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I do believe I've pointed that out already :p[/QUOTE]
But Jimmy Page IS the best guitarist. And Robert Plant IS the best singer. And John Paul Jones IS the best bassist. And John Bonham IS the best drummer.

I did not [I]say[/I] anything I was asking a question. I think Krautrock is the most psychedelic one can get I'm not saying it doesn't have Experimental or Progressive influence but it's psychedelia no matter what you think it sounds like. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about because you are really ignorant when it comes to psychedelia. [QUOTE=Badmoon]Quit overemphasising the importance of the genre Psychedelia.[/QUOTE]Explain this^

^^ Take it to fu[b]c[/b]king IM you two ^^

[QUOTE]I did not say anything I was asking a question. I think Krautrock is the most psychedelic one can get I'm not saying it doesn't have Experimental or Progressive influence but it's psychedelia no matter what you think it sounds like. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. because you are really ignorant when it comes to psychedelia.[/QUOTE]

I'm am not saying that they do not sound Psychedelic. I am stating that they are most definitely more of a Progressive and Experimental Rock band than Psychedelic. I am also stating that Prog and Experiental do not fall under Psychedelia, Psychedelia is did not form them. If anything it is the opposite.

I'm using reference with my opinion (though I don't expect it to change your opinion; it would really alter mine, if it went against me), you are not. So as for the bold, it most certainly applies for you more. You are relying on the idea that you know much more than us, which may not be true.

[QUOTE]Explain this^[/QUOTE]

What is there to explain? Your making it seem like Psychedelia encompasses much more, and just because of it, Krautrock should certainly go into it opposed to the arguably more important genres of Progressive and Experimental.

In conclusion, I'm not saying Krautrock bands have no elements of Psychedelia in them. I'm saying that they much more of a sub genre to Progressive Rock and Experimental Rock.


[QUOTE]Stop acting like you know what you're talking about because you are really ignorant when it comes to psychedelia.[/QUOTE]

Dare we question the great Schyma and his vast knowledge of his gimmick.

Once again, please get off your Psychedelic high horse. Just because you've listened to a few more bands than us that does not mean you have reign over it and greater knowledge about it, plus at least half the conversation did not involve Psychedelia.

Let's not fight.

All I'm saying is that Kraut Rock seems to have more of a connection to other genres than Psychedelia. He may think differently, but I think he's wrong, and I'm sure others do, but whatever.

I'll leave it at that if I have to. And I want to go to bed.

[QUOTE=Badmoon] Your making it seem like Psychedelia encompasses much more, and just because of it, Krautrock should certainly go into it opposed to the arguably more important genres of Progressive and Experimental. [/QUOTE]
How is any genre more important than another?
[QUOTE]Dare we question the great Schyma and his vast knowledge of his gimmick.

Once again, please get off your Psychedelic high horse. Just because you've listened to a few more bands than us that does not mean you have reign over it and greater knowledge about it, plus at least half the conversation did not involve Psychedelia.[/QUOTE]
Hey, **** you. You've listined to 3 Krautrock albums and now you're judging it like you've heard them all. You don't even like it so I mean how many listins have you given it? I'm sorry if it may seem like I beleive I have some sort of "greater knowledge" over the subject but I don't think you've heard enough to be saying what's psychedelic and what's not.

Hey hey now Give Peace a Chance!

Speaking of which, the Lennon art tour is in Portland OR right now. It is so ****ing awesome. My favorite of his art has to definitally be the Frog Pondering (if I can get a pic of that it shall be my new avatar!)

[QUOTE]How is any genre more important than another?[/QUOTE]

I mean encompasses more, is larger, etc. I shouldn't have used that word, I admit it.

[QUOTE]Hey, **** you. You've listined to 3 Krautrock albums and now you're judging it like you've heard them all. You don't even like it so I mean how many listins have you given it? I'm sorry if it may seem like I beleive I have some sort of "greater knowledge" over the subject but I don't think you've heard enough to be saying what's psychedelic and what's not.[/QUOTE]

First thing, you don't know what I've listened to. I can tell you that I've heard enough from the defiinitive Krautrock bands to make an opinion on what classification suits them best.

[QUOTE]You don't even like it so I mean how many listins have you given it?[/QUOTE]

I don't dislike Kraut Rock, I've been into several Kraut Rock related albums. Some being work from Kraftwerk and quite recentely I've been listening to some Faust mp3's.

[QUOTE]I'm sorry if it may seem like I beleive I have some sort of "greater knowledge" over the subject but I don't think you've heard enough to be saying what's psychedelic and what's not.[/QUOTE]

I can assure you that I've heard enough Kraut Rock and Psychedelia to make my opinion of Kraut Rock belonging in Progressive or Experimental opposed to Psychedelia.

If I played you a Johnny Cash album and a Bill Monroe album, I'm sure you could tell that you are 100% sure that the Bill Monroe album belongs in a Bluegrass classification, opposed to Country. You may have no history with Bluesgrass, but you know the general sound, and you know the general sound of Country.


Now, let's call it opinion so we can end this.

Opinion.

Anyone like Tom Waits? I know he's big in Alt/Indie.

Yes, Rain Dogs is a very good album.

Is there likke weekly battles between Badmoon nand Schyma now?

I got sent Highway 61 lasy night, great album.

No, what whould give that crazy idea?

Who in here has Soul Seek?

NP: Sun Ra - Lemuria

[QUOTE=Med]Sure is...Desolation Row is my all time favourite Dylan song, as well as being lyrically one of my top songs ever written. Considering how simple it is it's kind of surprising that I've never come close to getting bored of it[/QUOTE]

I've never been able to listen to Desolation Row the whole way through. And for the record, by favorite Bob Dylan song would have to be "Positively 4th Street".