Sup all. Actually, I am seriously considering ditching my last lecture, and cruising home. Sounds like a plan?

I wish it was warmer than it is now.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I firmly believe that someone can do whatever they please so long as they do not harm another human being.[/QUOTE]
A libertarian, so to speak?

Wow. I suggested something and it happened. I still have my influence despite my not being able to neg rep people to death :)

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Let's not take it to extremes.

I firmly believe that someone can do whatever they please so long as they do not harm another human being.[/QUOTE]
The vast majority of every American's day to day activities hurt other human beings. The food we waste, the sweat-shop produced clothing we buy, the list goes on. Unless, of course, you boycott such things?

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]There's these old guys on drums, guitar, and bass, and then four rappers come out with four huge black ladies to a hip-hop version of "Sweet Home Alabama."

My ears are bleeding.[/QUOTE]
:lol:

Oh man. Change the channel.

I realized how liberal what I just said was. :lol:

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]I wish it was warmer than it is now.[/QUOTE]

My cousin lived in Michigan. He hated it there, so he moved to Phoenix where it's noice and wharm. Now he's banging this hot chick.

EDIT: Too many consonants, gahh

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]The vast majority of every American's day to day activities hurt other human beings. The food we waste, the sweat-shop produced clothing we buy, the list goes on. Unless, of course, you boycott such things?[/QUOTE]

Yes, because I'm one of those "save the world" faggots. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]My cousin lived in Michigan. He hated it there, so he moved to Phoenix where it's noice and wharm. Now he's banging this hot chick.[/QUOTE]
I live in Phoenix...but am not banging a hot chick.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]My cousin lived in Michigan. He hated it there, so [b]he moved to Phoenix where it's noice and wharm. [size=4]Now he's banging this hot chick.[/size][/b][/QUOTE]

The stuff bolded and/or enlarged denotes things that will probably not happen in my life.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]My cousin lived in Michigan. He hated it there, so he moved to Phoenix where it's noice and wharm. Now he's banging this hot chick.[/QUOTE]
So basically:

Cold north: s[size=2]h[/size]it weather
Hot southwest: nice f[size=2]u[/size]cking life?

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Yes, because I'm one of those "save the world" faggots. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Eh, well then you don't care that much about hurting other human beings...

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Eh, well then you don't care that much about hurting other human beings...[/QUOTE]

I'm realistic, too. Of course it's bad that Nike forces kids to work in sweatshops...but do you think they care if some idealistic Americans band together to boycott?

I'm not stupid enough to try to change the world. Forgive me for trying to think on a smaller scale.

My brain hurts from trying to read this philosophy crap.

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Eh, well then you don't care that much about hurting other human beings...[/QUOTE]


Or he is meaning it in a way of him caring about not hurting people he personal knows.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]Or he is meaning it in a way of him caring about not hurting people he personal knows.[/QUOTE]

Which is what I said in my last post, only a bit more specific.

New user title for me. I like my old one better. :-/

Jim-123


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All you arguing guys sound like you belong on a System of a Down forum. Talking about the environment, and brutal corporate dictators all over the world...

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I'm realistic, too. Of course it's bad that Nike forces kids to work in sweatshops...but do you think they care if some idealistic Americans band together to boycott?

I'm not stupid enough to try to change the world. Forgive me for trying to think on a smaller scale.[/QUOTE]
Nothing important was ever done by people who never bothered to think large scale. Innovation and change is erected by those who step out of the boundries of society. Nike would care if all Americans banded together, but if they all take your stance and delude themselves into thinking they can't make a difference so there is no reason to bother, then Nike does not care about the few who do step over their bounds, and who actually believe in their cause, rather than throw up a transparent front.

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]Or he is meaning it in a way of him caring about not hurting people he personal knows.[/QUOTE]
Which is of course selfish, though no one is ever willing to admit it.

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Nothing important was ever done by people who never bothered to think large scale. Innovation and change is erected by those who step out of the boundries of society. Nike would care if all Americans banded together, but if they all take your stance and delude themselves into thinking they can't make a difference so there is no reason to bother, then Nike does not care about the few who do step over their bounds, and who actually believe in their cause, rather than throw up a transparent front.[/QUOTE]

Jake's revelation: If you care so much about changing the world, why do you spend so much time on mx? Just a thought...People that think big scale, big enough to change the world devote their lives to getting something done.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Which is what I said in my last post, only a bit more specific.[/QUOTE]


Yup, something I didn't see till I posted it.

Vince, you are taking this out of proportion since he is/was talking on it on a whole different scale then you are thinking of...

Getting people to boycott Nike is not an easy task, and not every one sees it the way as you are describing. And also in Ray's post, the key word is "some", he never said the whole country...

[QUOTE=Vince]Nothing important was ever done by people who never bothered to think large scale. Innovation and change is erected by those who step out of the boundries of society. Nike would care if all Americans banded together, but if they all take your stance and delude themselves into thinking they can't make a difference so there is no reason to bother, then Nike does not care about the few who do step over their bounds, and who actually believe in their cause, rather than throw up a transparent front.
[/QUOTE]

The problem isn't that I've "deluded myself", it's that I genuinely don't care about the issue enough to take action. Which leads to...

[QUOTE=Vince]something about being selfish[/QUOTE]

It probably is, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

If trying to improve the lives of my family, my friends, fellow American blacks, and myself over trying to save the world is "selfish", then call me the most selfish man in the world for all I care.

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Which is of course selfish, though no one is ever willing to admit it.[/QUOTE]

In that set of mind, it is impossible to not be selfish.


Human nature demands that not only do put ourselves ahead of others, but that we put people that we are familair with above those we do not know. To break away from this preset in every action we take is not only impossible but foolish to attempt.

I'm going to tell a joke ITT now.

A lady goes to the doctor's office and tells the doctor that she can't get her husband to have sex with her anymore. So, the doctor gives her some pills and says to give her husband one each night in his dinner whenever she wants to have sex.

That night she gave him one and they had a decent night of sex. The next night she decided to try 4 pills and she had even better sex. Well, the next night she tried 8 pills and the sex was wonderful. So the next night she decided to dump the whole bottle in his dinner.

The next day her son showed up at the doctor's office and and said,"Doctor, Doctor, what did you do to my Daddy? My mom's dead, my sister's pregnant, my butt hurts, and my dad's going around saying, 'Here kitty, kitty, kitty!'"

/lame

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]Which is of course selfish, though no one is ever willing to admit it.[/QUOTE]


Yes, it is selfish.

But you must take into consideration, people do this to keep their own little world stable. Maintaining your own little world around you with the people you personally know is alot easier then trying to start a revolution that needs to involve millions upon million of people.

That is, how I see it at least. I would love to help these people on a large scale, but is it possible with my situation I am at the moment? No. So why should I be essentially caring for those people when I should be worrying about my life at hand and keeping it as good as possible?

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]I'm going to tell a joke ITT now.

A lady goes to the doctor's office and tells the doctor that she can't get her husband to have sex with her anymore. So, the doctor gives her some pills and says to give her husband one each night in his dinner whenever she wants to have sex.

That night she gave him one and they had a decent night of sex. The next night she decided to try 4 pills and she had even better sex. Well, the next night she tried 8 pills and the sex was wonderful. So the next night she decided to dump the whole bottle in his dinner.

The next day her son showed up at the doctor's office and and said,"Doctor, Doctor, what did you do to my Daddy? My mom's dead, my sister's pregnant, my butt hurts, and my dad's going around saying, 'Here kitty, kitty, kitty!'"

/lame[/QUOTE]

Wow. :upset: Your jokes have hit a new low. Think of more though :D

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]I'm going to tell a joke ITT now.

A lady goes to the doctor's office and tells the doctor that she can't get her husband to have sex with her anymore. So, the doctor gives her some pills and says to give her husband one each night in his dinner whenever she wants to have sex.

That night she gave him one and they had a decent night of sex. The next night she decided to try 4 pills and she had even better sex. Well, the next night she tried 8 pills and the sex was wonderful. So the next night she decided to dump the whole bottle in his dinner.

The next day her son showed up at the doctor's office and and said,"Doctor, Doctor, what did you do to my Daddy? My mom's dead, my sister's pregnant, my butt hurts, and my dad's going around saying, 'Here kitty, kitty, kitty!'"

/lame[/QUOTE]
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAME

But good lame, keep in mind.

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]I'm going to tell a joke ITT now.

A lady goes to the doctor's office and tells the doctor that she can't get her husband to have sex with her anymore. So, the doctor gives her some pills and says to give her husband one each night in his dinner whenever she wants to have sex.

That night she gave him one and they had a decent night of sex. The next night she decided to try 4 pills and she had even better sex. Well, the next night she tried 8 pills and the sex was wonderful. So the next night she decided to dump the whole bottle in his dinner.

The next day her son showed up at the doctor's office and and said,"Doctor, Doctor, what did you do to my Daddy? My mom's dead, my sister's pregnant, my butt hurts, and my dad's going around saying, 'Here kitty, kitty, kitty!'"

/lame[/QUOTE]

If you want to diffuse the situation, you're gonna have to do better than that.

You know what, shut the fuc[size=2]k up.

/throws on bullshi[/size]t philosophical hat

You make the choice to read what I have to say, just don't next time. You should be able to tell by now how to decipher when I'm telling a joke and when I'm being serious.

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]You know what, shut the fuc[size=2]k up.

/throws on bullshi[/size]t philosophical hat

You make the choice to read what I have to say, just don't next time. You should be able to tell by now how to decipher when I'm telling a joke and when I'm being serious.[/QUOTE]


STFU h8er

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]You know what, shut the fuc[size=2]k up.

/throws on [b]emo[/b] hat

You make the choice to read what I have to say, just don't next time. You should be able to tell by now how to decipher when I'm telling a joke and when I'm being serious.[/QUOTE]

Fix'd

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]You know what, shut the fuc[size=2]k up.

/throws on bullshi[/size]t philosophical hat

You make the choice to read what I have to say, just don't next time. You should be able to tell by now how to decipher when I'm telling a joke and when I'm being serious.[/QUOTE]

You knew perfectly well that people were going to read it, so next time, try to not make it suck.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Jake's revelation: If you care so much about changing the world, why do you spend so much time on mx? Just a thought...People that think big scale, big enough to change the world devote their lives to getting something done.[/QUOTE]
I'm just stating my views on the issue, which is not to say I care about people enough to try and fix their plight. If I did, I would devote myself to that cause. I don't care enough about that to do anything about it though.

Jason: It's not easy because people don't care. I don't either, but the fact is few people will admit to not caring about any human being. The fact of the matter is you either care about humans or you don't, there isn't a middle ground where you only care about a few.

Ray: As long as you're comfortable discriminating, I don't care. Oh, except I do because if you only care about certain groups you sacrifice the well being of other groups, which is what the entirety of humanity does anyways, and so no one ever accomplishes anything because they're too busy stepping on each others' toes.

Otherside: Of course we put ourselves before others, so why do people even bother putting up a facade of caring, the only thing we all care about is ourselves.

Jason (again): If one man can't do anything to change something, nothing can ever be changed.

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]
Jason (again): If one man can't do anything to change something, nothing can ever be changed.[/QUOTE]

Quote worthiness++

Fu[B][I][/I][/B]ck. This entire thread just got utterly pwned by Vince. :upset:

Vinny, I dunno what your protocol is supposed to be here. Are you trying to change how I think? It's just not working. I think you need to get your priorities in order.

Meh, this has gotten really lame.

Well, i just realized..you're saying that people should care more, yet you say that you don't care enough to do anything...AHA!!

Lucky for us, we didn't all get pwned by Vince.

What did the lady say to Michael Jackson at the beach?