So no one has heard the bonus material on the London Calling 25th Anniversary Edition?

Someone?

Anyone? :smash:

Oh i have, i own it.

[QUOTE=CombatRock]Oh i have, i own it.[/QUOTE]

Well that's nice to know, Combat Rock. It brings great joy to me. BUT HOW THE HELL IS IT!. I asked days ago, man. :upset:

Is it worth me spending some of my song credits on? And are these the "White Tapes" I've read about? Tell me what you know, dammit! :p


/ patience has run out

^Forget it. I just downloaded it. Thanks for the input, eveyone. :rolleyes:

hahah sorry man. Do you like it?

^ Ah, that's ok. Maybe if I hadn't been calling the Vanilla Tapes the White Tapes I would of gotten some feedback. But yeah, I like it. The band sounds young and eager and in some cases a bit unsure of themselves. London Calling sounds real tentative and the lyrics are interesting. It's a nice glimpse of the Clash as a work and band in progress. I haven't heard it all as I just added it to my playlist and am going to bed soon. But I'll get around to it tommorow. I'm actually listening to London Calling, which I went ahead and dowloaded along with the bonus stuff. I have it already, of course. But I read that this edition was remastered and cleaned up a bit. Maybe a bit of remixing? Whatever the case, it sounds great.

[QUOTE=CombatRock]I hate crass.

I wish i had some money, there is so much Clash/Joe stuff i want.[/QUOTE]

Why do you hate Crass?

I like them way better than Clash.

They sound like a marching drumline, and there singer is annoying.

Lonesome Me is a cool song and I remember there being a Bob Dylan cover somewhere on there.

And I don't hate Crass, I just don't like them very much.

[QUOTE=Anti-Prefix]Why do you hate Crass?

I like them way better than Clash.[/QUOTE]

"They said that we were trash, well the name is Crass not Clash!"

[QUOTE=guns_of_brixton]Lonesome Me is a cool song and I remember there being a Bob Dylan cover somewhere on there.

And I don't hate Crass, I just don't like them very much.[/QUOTE]
Lonesome Me is the countryish song right.

I can't stand Crass, there's a fine line between "raw punk" and "unprofessional crap"

That's what he gets for calling Crass unprofessional crap!

The Clash are amazing...But I havent heard anything by the other bands.

Also sorry if its been mentioned why did Mick Jones leave The Clash?

[QUOTE=i_am_zombie_jesus]The Clash are amazing...But I havent heard anything by the other bands.

Also sorry if its been mentioned why did Mick Jones leave The Clash?[/QUOTE]

He just walked out, I think. Perhaps before he was asked to leave. Apparently he was an insufferable prick at the time and just wasn't talking with any of them. Not really a part of things anymore. He says he regrets the way he was, and I believe him. He seems changed. But at the time, by all accounts, he was literally impossible to be in the same room with, much less in the same band with. And he had been that way for years. So I think the whole thing just sort of fell apart and he walked. Right out of rehearsal one day and never looked back. And no one went looking for him, either.

I thought Joe told him to leave the band because he was acting to much like a rock star and such.

[QUOTE=white_riot]I thought Joe told him to leave the band because he was acting to much like a rock star and such.[/QUOTE]

Thats exactly it. Joe later regretted the decision.

Wonder what would have happend if Mick never left?


In my journlaism class, there is a like this colage (sp) of newspaper clipping and one of them says "carrer opprotunities".

^^ I just watched the last part of Westway To The World. Apparently Joe and Paul had enough and wanted Mick gone. So when Mick showed up to rehearse Joe told him so. Mick then looked at Paul and asked if he agreed, and Paul said yeah. And that was it. Joe and Paul say their was no communication with Mick at this time and they wouldn't even speak when in the same room. And he was always late or simply didn't show up for reheasals. Plus he didn't want to tour. And when he did show up Joe say's he was like "Elizabeth Taylor in a filthy mood." He says Mick was intolerable and impossible to work with or be around. Mick says he had no "control" and would always push things further and further until people were sick. This is one of my favorite parts of Westway To The World when Mick gets choked up about that time and what he used to be like. He seems almost embarrassed. He seems very pleasant and I'm sure he is. I can't really imagine him as the venomous snake he apparently was.

Yea thats a good part in Westway.


What do you think would have happend to The Clash if they didnt kick mick out?

[QUOTE=CombatRock]Yea thats a good part in Westway.


What do you think would have happend to The Clash if they didnt kick mick out?[/QUOTE]
That's a good question. I was always under the impression the songs Joe sung were his and the ones Mick sang were his own, also. Although credits went to Strummer/Jones, I thought they did it like Lennon/McCartney did it for the sake of getting even royalties? But on this board I have read Mick did the music and lyrics for his songs as well as the music for Joe's. Perhaps the door swung both ways a little? I really don't know.

Whatever the case, I think with Mick the Clash could of continued and kept growing artistically/creatively. They were a great band and their work was not finished. But if Cut The Crap is a true indication of how much Mick actually did contribute creatively, then him leaving killed the Clash. That album is fairly poor by any standard. But even had it been good the band was still different. On Westway they talk about how the beginning of the end was actually Topper leaving. How it cut into the chemistry and dynamic of the band. And then with Mick gone as well, well, where's the Clash in that. It would of been just a matter of time, anyway.

I've heard live bootlegs of the Clash '85. One from the Long Beach Arena that is literally great. Three guitar players, Joe is on fire, and all sounds good. But I suppose with only 2 out of 5 guys being original members it was more like a Clash cover band of sorts. If Mick had stayed I think they would of lasted right into the ninties. But as it is I suppose their time just came and went.

I'm listening to Give 'Em Enough Rope at the moment. Truly great album.

[url]http://cdzinc.com/1/32/compilations/A_Z/burninglondontheclashtribute.html[/url]

^^ A Clash cover. The people on there are pretty random. Anyone here or own this? I liked the Rancid cover

I just sampled a few cuts. Not great from what I've heard, but not bad, either. I'm interested to hear more when I get home. The Clash can be a good band to cover I suppose if you don't try to copy them. The artists I sampled certainly didn't try to do that. Sort of weird listening to it. Thanks for the link. Moby doing Straight To Hell? That should be interesting, to say the least.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]That's a good question. I was always under the impression the songs Joe sung were his and the ones Mick sang were his own, also. Although credits went to Strummer/Jones, I thought they did it like Lennon/McCartney did it for the sake of getting even royalties? But on this board I have read Mick did the music and lyrics for his songs as well as the music for Joe's. Perhaps the door swung both ways a little? I really don't know.[/QUOTE]
Mick wrote all most all of the songs (instrument wise).

Andy is going to new york this weekend and wanted me to ask if any of yall knew the exact location of that wall painted for Joe, street and everything.

[QUOTE=CombatRock]Andy is going to new york this weekend and wanted me to ask if any of yall knew the exact location of that wall painted for Joe, street and everything.[/QUOTE]

Niagara
112 Ave A
New York, NY 10009-6106
(212) 420-9517
Cross Street: Seventh Street


Mick is a talented guy if all that music is his. I really didn't know. Did Joe write the lyrics Mick sang? Or perhaps some of them? Listening to all the live Clash stuff I've been listening to lately has made me appreciate Mick more. No wonder Cut The Crap was so bland and generic. That is considerable and diverse talent. So would you say Mick wrote the whole of Sandinista? Musically speaking.

[QUOTE=Skidmark Steve][url]http://cdzinc.com/1/32/compilations/A_Z/burninglondontheclashtribute.html[/url]

^^ A Clash cover. The people on there are pretty random. Anyone here or own this? I liked the Rancid cover[/QUOTE]

Ice Cube doing should i stay or should i go? Wow

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Niagara
112 Ave A
New York, NY 10009-6106
(212) 420-9517
Cross Street: Seventh Street


Mick is a talented guy if all that music is his. I really didn't know. Did Joe write the lyrics Mick sang? Or perhaps some of them? Listening to all the live Clash stuff I've been listening to lately has made me appreciate Mick more. No wonder Cut The Crap was so bland and generic. That is considerable and diverse talent. So would you say Mick wrote the whole of Sandinista? Musically speaking.[/QUOTE]
It was preety even on who wrote lyrics really, if somone wrote more lyrics it would habe been joe. I agree clash live is one of the best things.

Hopefully when andy goes to that wall she can take some pictures for us.

[QUOTE=screamOUTpunk]Ice Cube doing should i stay or should i go? Wow[/QUOTE]
Ice Cube is the man.

[QUOTE=screamOUTpunk]Ice Cube doing should i stay or should i go? Wow[/QUOTE]

Most of the words are changed though.

Mick did write alot of the music, but Joe certianly had music writing talent (w/ doing movie soundtracks and such). It seems that Mick wrote all of the songs he sand but Lost in the Supermarket.

Where have you been sean, did you accutaly get a life :upset:

all the good bands are dead or broken, i miss the ramones and the clash, the stooges, the new york dolls, and the misfits, and the dead boys... good god... the list goes on and on

im gonna hang myself

... wait too emo...

im gonna go eat frootloops

there we go

Hang yourself. It's more punk then fruitloops.

Umm....yeah hanging your self would be way better than fruitloops you'd be my hero!

I like Fruit Rings better than Fruitloops.

I cant believe the merits of hanging one's self vs the merits of frootloops are being discussed...in the Clash forum. For shame.

[QUOTE=redstainedeyes]I cant believe the merits of hanging one's self vs the merits of frootloops are being discussed...in the Clash forum. For shame.[/QUOTE]

Joe loved fruitloops.

[QUOTE=CombatRock]Where have you been sean, did you accutaly get a life :upset:[/QUOTE]

Yes. And I had Gino's East tonight.

[QUOTE=JohnXDoe]Joe loved fruitloops.[/QUOTE]

truth.