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Tim 04-22-2006 12:36 AM

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]Well can you point me in the right direction for an 18" crash to go with my 16" Vault? Rude rides are ok btw :p[/QUOTE]

an 18inch AAX stage crash. something medium thin in a big size.

Cocaberry 04-22-2006 12:40 AM

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]
Heavy ride with a short warm ping and a solid bell sound(elbow of stick)
[/QUOTE]

Try either the AA Heavy Ride or AA Rock Ride. Both are heavy weight. Only difference is the bell on the Rock ride is larger and the rock ride would be louder.

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]
An 18" crash that will go well with a 16" Sabian Vault crash, I was thinking A custom or AA Medium crash(massmusic has them cheap as hell).
[/QUOTE]

I don't really remember exactly what a Vault crash sounds like but I'm assuming its fairly bright. According to the catalog, it is thin weight so I suggest you try the following crashes:[LIST][*]AA Thin (Thin Weight)[*]AA Medium-Thin (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Stage Crash (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Studio Crash (Thin Weight)[/LIST]
Keep in mind the Medium-thins are going to be louder than the thin weights. If you don't want one crash to overpower the other you should just stay with thins.

\m/-CHeV-\m/ 04-22-2006 02:58 AM

[QUOTE=VTDS_xx]Alright, thanks guys. I'm looking at the A Custom Medium Crashes right now. They're sounding good to me. I'm also going to be getting a new ride and hats soon. I'm thinkin Z Custom Dyno Beats and an A Custom Ping Ride. 22".[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't go with the dyno's.. man they are too friggin loud.. and they sound like crap.. If you like them being loud, maybe improve the sound by buying a Z/K combo... and just remember: a-custom medium crashes are not the best musical choice if you play in various styles of music.. It suits rock and metal very good though ;)!

thenewguy515 04-22-2006 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Try either the AA Heavy Ride or AA Rock Ride. Both are heavy weight. Only difference is the bell on the Rock ride is larger and the rock ride would be louder.



I don't really remember exactly what a Vault crash sounds like but I'm assuming its fairly bright. According to the catalog, it is thin weight so I suggest you try the following crashes:[LIST][*]AA Thin (Thin Weight)[*]AA Medium-Thin (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Stage Crash (Medium-Thin Weight)[*]AAX Studio Crash (Thin Weight)[/LIST]
Keep in mind the Medium-thins are going to be louder than the thin weights. If you don't want one crash to overpower the other you should just stay with thins.[/QUOTE]
would an AA medium crash be pushing it too far?

Cocaberry 04-22-2006 10:17 PM

[QUOTE=thenewguy515]would an AA medium crash be pushing it too far?[/QUOTE]

Depends. If you are playing jazz most of the time then yes. AA Mediums wouldn't be as versatile as the other cymbals I listed.

I have 2 AA Medium Crashes and they are good for what I use them for but I just play mostly rock. I have a ride that I crash-ride all the time so I need crashes that cut through that without any trouble. IMO AA Mediums don't sound as good as AA Medium-thins or thins.

straycat101 04-22-2006 11:14 PM

do you guys think i should get a) 8'' and 10'' Wuhan Trad Splashes, b) a 12'' Wuhan Splash and 12'' China or c) a 16'' Prosonix China ?

help me out

Cocaberry 04-22-2006 11:22 PM

[QUOTE=straycat101]do you guys think i should get a) 8'' and 10'' Wuhan Trad Splashes, b) a 12'' Wuhan Splash and 12'' China or c) a 16'' Prosonix China ?

help me out[/QUOTE]

Depends on what you have now. Post your cymbal list.

straycat101 04-22-2006 11:29 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Depends on what you have now. Post your cymbal list.[/QUOTE]

Right now i have a 17'' A Custom Fast Crash, a 20'' AA Medium ride, and Paiste 802 hats/second crash. I am gonna replace the 802 crash in a month when my b-day comes around.

Cocaberry 04-22-2006 11:38 PM

From your list, I'd go with the ProSonix china. Wuhans tend to be a bit dark since they are hand hammered.

I've never heard the 802 hats but since the AA ride and the fast crash are fairly bright, IMO the Prosonix would fit in better than those Wuhans.

chewaz 04-23-2006 12:12 AM

22" Sig. Dry ride or 24" 2002 ride? wich is dryer or has less wash?=

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-23-2006 02:22 AM

[url]www.paiste.com[/url]

Check out the sound clips and see for yourself. My money would be on the sig dry ride though.

chewaz 04-23-2006 11:24 AM

yeah i've heard the cilps, but i was asking for those who have tried them out :S

VTDS_xx 04-23-2006 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=straycat101]do you guys think i should get a) 8'' and 10'' Wuhan Trad Splashes, b) a 12'' Wuhan Splash and 12'' China or c) a 16'' Prosonix China ?

help me out[/QUOTE]
A 10" S Series Splash and an 18" Trad. China.

saars 04-23-2006 03:34 PM

[QUOTE=saars]I'm also looking for a china that is not too dark (like the wuhans are) and something that I can ride on (like dhak said). Also, I don't like something that's uber trashy (like the wuhans), but I want something that gives a good "khaaahhh" and doesn't have that much overtones. I'm open any brand cymbal.[/QUOTE]


anyone?

aznriceball 04-23-2006 03:37 PM

paiste sig chinas cut a bit like you'd say, and you might think about a b8pro china perhaps? or perhaps an HH china, those things are real bitey :)

-=[Luke]=- 04-23-2006 04:54 PM

I'm looking for 2 new crashes, i missed 2 bargains earlier for a Sabian HH 16" and 18" crash.
I'm looking for 2 crashes that work well together, and would be well suited for heavy metal playing and also quite versatile.

aznriceball 04-23-2006 05:41 PM

AA Rock Crash 17" HH Rock Crash 18"

AA Medium Thin 17" HHX Stage Crash 19"

We_Love_Lime 04-23-2006 07:10 PM

Hmm...

16 A EFX.
15 Azuka
or 18 Azuka?

Anybody have any recomendations for a cool Reggae type crash cymbal.

Really really short simmering decay.

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-23-2006 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=saars]anyone?[/QUOTE]

18" or 20" Bosphorus trad. china, if you can find one that is. I suggest Ebay.

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-23-2006 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime]Hmm...

16 A EFX.
15 Azuka
or 18 Azuka?

Anybody have any recomendations for a cool Reggae type crash cymbal.

Really really short simmering decay.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps a K custom fast crash?

raz0r 04-23-2006 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaberry]Neither. Both of those lines are just garbage. It's best to stay away from the following lines:[LIST][*]AA Metal-X[*]AAX Metal[*]Z Customs[*]Paiste Rude[/LIST][/QUOTE]

The AAX Metals aren't [I]too[/I] bad. Better than the Metal-X line at least.
Paiste RUDEs aren't all that bad either.

Drum Phil 04-24-2006 03:01 AM

Paiste rude thin crashes and the chinas are awesome.

Vannaroth 04-24-2006 01:37 PM

What do you guys think of the Sabian Paragon series? been thinking of picking up a 10" splash and I'm torn between Paragon, Metal-X and HH.

Drum Phil 04-24-2006 01:43 PM

Paragon > Metal-X

HeLLmO 04-24-2006 04:07 PM

i'm gonna have to say paragon on that one, Neil sure does know how to make a splash

VTDS_xx 04-24-2006 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=\m/-CHeV-\m/]I wouldn't go with the dyno's.. man they are too friggin loud.. and they sound like crap.. If you like them being loud, maybe improve the sound by buying a Z/K combo... and just remember: a-custom medium crashes are not the best musical choice if you play in various styles of music.. It suits rock and metal very good though ;)![/QUOTE]
Oops. That was supposed to say K/Z Custom. haha Sorry.

Killroy 04-25-2006 12:57 AM

hey, im looking for a nice versatile china, any reccomendations?

DruMMeR_BoY14 04-25-2006 01:41 AM

A china High
Oriental China trash
AA China

Tim 04-25-2006 02:15 AM

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]AA Chinese[/QUOTE]

agreed

r.o.a.r 04-26-2006 01:02 PM

i think you should go with the oriental china trash. i've had it for about7 months now. that cymbal's awsome!:thumb:


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