[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]^^thanks guys
i have a question?

What do you think Metallica's new album will be like, if they come out with one, will they come out with another one??[/QUOTE]


The Long answer: A double platnum 60 minute "masterpeice" that has Robert Trujjillo playing totally inaudible bass lines, not one guitar solo, and one grammy award.

The short answer.... it's sitting in the toilet right now. Boy I had too much beef jerky today.

[QUOTE=Unhappy_poet/bassist]The Long answer: A double platnum 60 minute "masterpeice" that has Robert Trujjillo playing totally inaudible bass lines, not one guitar solo, and one grammy award.[/Quote]

no, that's the ilogical and stupid answer
Have you realize that Robert Trujillo has twice the talent of late bassist Cliff Burton and more energy than Jason Newsted. I'm pretty sure that Metallica knows St. Anger was near crap, why do you think they added solos to the songs of St. Anger during past tours?
If they realize that MIAWTW tour was major success, i'm pretty sure the album they are recording isn't gonna be bad.

[Quote]The short answer.... it's sitting in the toilet right now. Boy I had too much beef jerky today.[/QUOTE]

Short answer, analyze things before posting.

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]no, that's the ilogical and stupid answer
Have you realize that Robert Trujillo has twice the talent of late bassist Cliff Burton .



Short answer, analize things before posting.[/QUOTE]

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... U can't possibly be serious. Good one chap...:chug:


Maybe u should analyze the For Whom the Bell Tolls bass tab compared to Some Kind of Monster first. I'm not gonna respond to the rest of whatever it is u wrote kid.

[QUOTE=Unhappy_poet/bassist]MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... U can't possibly be serious. Good one chap...:chug:


Maybe u should analyze the For Whom the Bell Tolls bass tab compared to Some Kind of Monster first. I'm not gonna respond to the rest of whatever it is u wrote kid.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure you only know Robert Trujillo because he's on Metallica.
Check Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves.

None of the songs on ST. Anger was written by Robert Trujillo, he just came to learn the basslines.

Also Junglescence> FWTBT and Anesthesia.

No but I remember him in BLS, where I couldn't hear a single thing he played.

He is decent, but he's a pushover like Newstead. He only does what Hettfield or Wylde tell him too.

Come on, Clff Burton was one of the 25 or so greatest bassists who ever lived. Thats ridiculous to even compare Trujillo to him.

[QUOTE=Unhappy_poet/bassist]

Come on, Clff Burton was one of the 25 or so greatest bassists who ever lived. Thats ridiculous to even compare Trujillo to him.[/QUOTE]

Most of those lists ignore big names like Sean Malone, Tony Choy, Tony Levin, John Myung, etc.
Cliff Burton was good and innovating i accept that, crap i'm even a fanboy of his work he is one of the main resons i'm a bass player.
But i recognize when someone is better than him, Robert Trujillo is faster and has more technique than Burton, he's creativity is amazing

Robert Trujillo is an underrated musician.

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]Most of those lists ignore big names like Sean Malone, Tony Choy, Tony Levin, John Myung, etc.
Cliff Burton was good and innovating i accept that, crap i'm even a fanboy of his work he is one of the main resons i'm a bass player.
But i recognize when someone is better than him, Robert Trujillo is faster and has more technique than Burton, he's creativity is amazing

Robert Trujillo is an underrated musician.[/QUOTE]

Oh I'm including them, Jaco, Vic Wooten, Charles Mingus, Flea, Alex Webster, Steve Digiorgio, and Harris for that matter.

Well firstly I don't really agree to say Trujillo is more skilled. Secondly, I don't care if u play 128'th notes FINGERS if u can't write your own riffs.

[QUOTE=Unhappy_poet/bassist]
Well firstly I don't really agree to say Trujillo is more skilled. Secondly, I don't care if u play 128'th notes FINGERS if u can't write your own riffs.[/QUOTE]

Then again, you must hear Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves.
Junglesscence is the live solo that Trujillo wrote during he's tour with Metallica, it's very similar to the bass solo on Metropolis pt 1 of Dream Theater, just with less virtuosity.

Burton only use a 4 stringed bass, heavy disstorsion, tapping and basic arpeggios in almost all his basslines, all fingerpicked.

Trujillo use 4,5,6,7,8 and 10 stringed bass, Heavy Disstorsion, multi effects, slapping, advanced tapping, advanced arpeggios, odd time signatures, all fingerpicked.

Technically, as you can see Trujillo is better.

I'm mostly a death metal and beyond fan but I'll take a gander.

[url]http://bass.guitarboard.com/s/suicidal-tendencies/[/url]

Did he write these? It's decent but I certainly wouldn't say better than
[url]http://bass.guitarboard.com/m/metallica/unknown-album/for-whom-the-bell-tolls.php[/url] *sites Cliff ones*

It's on a par... but in the end, Cliff never took the **** that Trujillo and Newstead take. Cliff is a pioneer and leader and they merely followers. They're utility men, when you need a bassist, there there and they'll perform. But you can't define a band around them.

Flea IS Red Hot Chili Peppers
Ryan IS Mudvayne
Metallica WAS Cliff Burton. That band lost almost all it's drive once he passed. Enough to last to make 2 or so more good albums, but Cliff would never have let that band tank like they did post Black album.

What's so good about the For Whom The Bell Tolls bass? It's simple and effective, nothing more.

Your ignorance regarding Rob Trujillo is priceless.

1. He's just come into Metallica. You've already been told Bob Rock did the basslines on St. Anger.

2. He was in BLS for ONE album.

3. Actually go listen to Suicidal Tendencies and Infectious Grooves before making comments that make you look like a moron.

I don't see how you can make the assumption that Rob is getting no input into Metallica's music at the moment. Do you work at the studio?

[QUOTE=Unhappy_poet/bassist]I'm mostly a death metal and beyond fan but I'll take a gander.

[url]http://bass.guitarboard.com/s/suicidal-tendencies/[/url]

Did he write these? It's decent but I certainly wouldn't say better than
[url]http://bass.guitarboard.com/m/metallica/unknown-album/for-whom-the-bell-tolls.php[/url] *sites Cliff ones*

It's on a par... but in the end, Cliff never took the **** that Trujillo and Newstead take. Cliff is a pioneer and leader and they merely followers. They're utility men, when you need a bassist, there there and they'll perform. But you can't define a band around them.

Flea IS Red Hot Chili Peppers
Ryan IS Mudvayne
Metallica WAS Cliff Burton. That band lost almost all it's drive once he passed. Enough to last to make 2 or so more good albums, but Cliff would never have let that band tank like they did post Black album.[/QUOTE]

:lol:the Metallica bass tab owned all of them

[QUOTE=.:Thrasher:.]:lol:the Metallica bass tab owned all of them[/QUOTE]

You are aware that only one of the bass tabs on the ST one were written by Rob. The rest were when he was out of the band.

Funnily enough the only tab transcribed there which Rob was on, the tabber couldn't figure out the stuff he played in the song.

How strange.

[QUOTE=Unhappy_poet/bassist]
Flea IS Red Hot Chili Peppers
Ryan IS Mudvayne
Metallica WAS Cliff Burton.[/quote]
Flea > Cliff Burton. And why the hell are comparing them with Mudvayne?
[QUOTE]That band lost almost all it's drive once he passed. Enough to last to make 2 or so more good albums, but Cliff would never have let that band tank like they did post Black album.[/QUOTE]
Thrash metal didn't die because Burton did. I take it you haven't seen of 'Tallicas live performances if you think they lost their drive.

okay guys stop comparing trujillo and burton before we see what trujillo can actually do with metallica. no side of the argument is gonna give in until the album comes out, so stfu about it if you don't mind.

Trujillo is godly. I've seen videos of his live bass solos. :eek:

I don't see how you can really compare him to Burton. They both have completely different styles of playing.

[QUOTE=KingJay]I don't see how you can really compare him to Burton. They both have completely different styles of playing.[/QUOTE]
I don't know enough about bass to agree or disagree, but if it'll stop the comparisons for now I'm all for it.

[QUOTE=superdigg]okay guys stop comparing trujillo and burton before we see what trujillo can actually do with metallica. no side of the argument is gonna give in until the album comes out, so stfu about it if you don't mind.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Everyone knows Bob Rock> Burton.

Still, I liked Rob's Junglessence. I'd like to hear stuff liek that on the new album.

Trujillo is better than Burton. Now go have a tall frosty glass of STFU and don't come back in hre syaing FWTBT is so great on bass. Please. Maybe in a few months you'll realise you're wrong. Hell, even Holy Wars, which we were discussing a little while back is harder than FWTBT...

Ellefson > Burton too while we're at it IMO.

Yes, I love Burton, he was one of my main inspirations, and I still like his stuff.

In the same way that yes, I love Metallica, they're an inspiration, but I've moved past the 'ZOMG! greatest band EVAR!' fanboyism.

TBH, I thought Newsted was better for the band than Burton anyway, but it was good to have the Burton stuff there too! :)

:smash:

Rob is actually as good or better than Cliff. The band, when they were having auditions for a new bass player when Jason left the band and they found Rob, said that he plays the bass riffs in songs from kill 'em all till master of puppets as good as Cliff did.

Although I don't like to see Rob performing live. Not that he sucks live but on live performances, he makes a fool out of himself while playing.

Would you rather have someone who makes a fool of themselves and keeps people entertained, and is talked about, or someone who stands at the back, and is dead quiet and still?

:smash:

[QUOTE=KingJay]Trujillo is godly. I've seen videos of his live bass solos. :eek:

I don't see how you can really compare him to Burton. They both have completely different styles of playing.[/QUOTE]

I personally do not see the comparison arguments myself however I disagree with the completely different styles remark. From the material I have hear so far I think Cliff Burton and Rob Trujillo have alot in common as far as playing goes. The both play with the fingers which causes similarities in sound also they both seem to play on the same wavelength. I have heard quite a few bootlegs of Metallica playing Orion ect: With cliff and with Robert, I personally do not see much difference in the playing aspect. I think what people are getting confused about is the whole playing/Writing thing... Rob Trujillo is playing somebody elses lines! It will be awesome to see some of the dots he has put on the staves however!

[QUOTE=Jred250]I personally do not see the comparison arguments myself however I disagree with the completely different styles remark.[/QUOTE]
They really don't have that much in common.
[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]Burton only use a 4 stringed bass, heavy disstorsion, tapping and basic arpeggios in almost all his basslines, all fingerpicked.

Trujillo use 4,5,6,7,8 and 10 stringed bass, Heavy Disstorsion, multi effects, slapping, advanced tapping, advanced arpeggios, odd time signatures, all fingerpicked.
[/QUOTE]

From that you can say that Cliff's a much more simpler player than Rob.

[QUOTE=Happy]From that you can say that Cliff's a much more simpler player than Rob.[/QUOTE]
He was. But we all know being technical and fast doesn't make you a good player.

Rob might be better technically, but I doubt he's more creative and a better composer. The only way to know is from next metallica album. If it's better than RTL, then yes, Rob is better. We'll see his basslines soon I guess.

[QUOTE=Happy]From that you can say that Cliff's a much more simpler player than Rob.[/QUOTE]

Yes he was alot simpler but then again technology has grown alot since cliff days... 5 String basses were not the in thing in cliffs era.

A person who uses more stings isn't necessarily better. He just has the option to be more versatile.

All good points made. But can the new album really top RTL? I mean that's impossible.

Basswise?

I wouldn't think it would be that hard for Rob to top the performance on RTL.

Call of Ktulu is the only thing with real nice bass in that IMO, pity it's not more prominent in the mix.

Songwriting wise? Cliff's songwriting and theory influence came more into play on MoP I think.

:smash:

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Basswise?

I wouldn't think it would be that hard for Rob to top the performance on RTL.

Call of Ktulu is the only thing with real nice bass in that IMO, pity it's not more prominent in the mix.

Songwriting wise? Cliff's songwriting and theory influence came more into play on MoP I think.

:smash:[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, basswise it'd be easy to top but I mean as a whole group.