Yeah Alcest will be at the same festival, dunno how they'll be live but I'll go anyway.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh attack attack is coming here later in march

lol

attack attack sucks

Seven at now but intermediate not perhaps because said garlic and.

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[QUOTE=TimJim;18433446]uh technically yes but withdrawals from heroin are more physically harming than withdrawals from alcohol[/QUOTE]

wow you're an idiot. heroin withdrawals just make you feel like shit, throw up, headache, nausea and body ache. alcohol withdrawals can make you have a seizure and/or kill you. heroin withdrawals aren't fatal. you feel terrible, but you won't die.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000764.htm

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2010/11/is-alcohol-really-worse-than-heroin/22470/

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/Addictions/23081

[QUOTE]In a study published in the journal the Lancet this week, his group finds that alcohol is more harmful than either heroin or crack. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Among all drugs of abuse, alcohol is the most harmful overall by a wide margin, a British physician group declared.[/QUOTE]

hurrrrrrrrr alcohol can't be bad cause it's legal! i don't know nothin bout heroin but government says it's bad durr

if you don't believe me google "alcohol heroin worse" and tell me what you find

[QUOTE=TimJim;18433448]if nothing else opiates bind you up like a motherfucker and youll die of constapation[/QUOTE]

most opiate users don't stay high 24/7 and when they aren't using them you can shit just fine.

you guys are incredibly ignorant when it comes to drugs. the real danger of heroin comes from using dirty needles or shooting a bag when you don't know how strong it is. most heroin deaths occur because someone mixed it with alcohol or downers. do some research before spouting off ignorant beliefs based on nothing jesus christ

Wow, Timjim, you don't know the specifics of heroin withdrawal.

You are dumb. You are so dumb.

tim jim acts like he knows every thing and he specifically said heroin withdrawals were worse. he should know he's a pharmacy major

if you were to read a study on the internet stating that smoking was good for you and they "backed" these statements with "findings" would you believe them?


who is the idiot? why do you think the FDA allows alcohol but not heroin? do you think MAYBE its beyond the fact that it's highly addictive and drives every thought after taking a few doses of it? then you go through withdrawals the make you feel like shit and you either kill yourself or kill someone else for the money to get more? or do soemthign else stupid?

goddammit i am such a fucking idiot just goddammit

Ya, Timjim, do you even know what's it's like to go through heroin withdrawal? Wow, I bet you don't, idiot.

Timjim, you have just started schooling in pharmacy and you haven't learn the specifics of heroin withdrawal....wow....seriously quit school....they aren't teaching you shit.

hahahahaha basically

not only are we not learning much on the affects of illegal drugs but we def arent learning that theyre not as bad as alcohol hahahaha

BUT ITS PROVEN ON THE INTERNET THEREFORE IT IS REALITY

[QUOTE=TimJim;18434047]if you were to read a study on the internet stating that smoking was good for you and they "backed" these statements with "findings" would you believe them?


who is the idiot? why do you think the FDA allows alcohol but not heroin? do you think MAYBE its beyond the fact that it's highly addictive and drives every thought after taking a few doses of it? then you go through withdrawals the make you feel like shit and you either kill yourself or kill someone else for the money to get more? or do soemthign else stupid?

goddammit i am such a fucking idiot just goddammit[/QUOTE]

i never said heroin was good for you, i said alcohol is more harmful

the FDA allows alcohol because prohibition failed

a few doses does not make you addicted, regular use for weeks does

withdrawals aren't nearly as severe as you are making them out to be

stop trying to justify your drug use and then trying to call me an idiot for calling you out on it

i don't use heroin, i take hydrocodone. i use heroin maybe once every four months

i'm not trying to justify my drug use, i'm aware that it's a problem. i'm just stating that alcohol is known to be more harmful and that the withdrawal can kill you. you are an idiot because you said heroin withdrawal is more dangerous

First day of chem class*

We'd like to introduce prof Blockhead who will be discussing the effects and side effects of heroin abuse. We are just waiting for him to print off random internet pages to quote.

heroin will never be socially acceptable or marketable

alcohol always will be as long as sports and clubs exist

my claims were based on findings from a scientific study which compared all drugs on how much they harm the individual and society. alcohol came out at 72 and heroin came out at 55.

look it up for yourself if you don't believe me. google "alcohol heroin worse" not a single one says heroin is worse for you

the only reason i called tim jim an idiot is because he was trying to pass off "heroin withdrawal is worse for you than alcohol withdrawal" as a fact

This is gonna be an exciting class. Continue Prof Blockhead.

Drinking until you black out is probably worse for you than a dose of heroin but alcohol is consumed in such a wide variety of volumes it's probably extremely difficult to determine which is "worse" for you.

[QUOTE=adbforever;18434064]heroin will never be socially acceptable or marketable

alcohol always will be as long as sports and clubs exist[/QUOTE]
take ONE fucking logic class

learn 2 english and THINK

[QUOTE=Angmar;18434081]Drinking until you black out is probably worse for you than a dose of heroin but alcohol is consumed in such a wide variety of volumes it's probably extremely difficult to determine which is "worse" for you.[/QUOTE]

implying there aren't people who do heroin occasionally "chippers"

I don't know what that has to do with what I said.

i agree with blockhead by and large

almost all of the dangers of heroin are due to its illegality

unknown purity leads to overdose
low quality is the reason people use it intravenously
danger of contracting aids is because people share needles because they can't get cleans
overdoses because it's cut with something are very common

all most all these problems would go away if it were legal. sure it's still addictive but so are cigarettes and alcohol. it would be much safer if people knew what they were getting and didn't have to associate with the criminal underworld

Right, I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just saying it's probably difficult to determine which chemical is ultimately "worse" for you because some people just like to have one beer while others take 20 shots, with heroin it's typically a pretty consistent dosage when using, alcohol varies greatly.

I mean pound for pound if you were to compare heroin to alcohol heroin is WAY worse for you, but it's used in such fine amounts.

[QUOTE=Angmar;18434089]I don't know what that has to do with what I said.[/QUOTE]

you said that people consume alcohol in a variety of ways. i was saying that people use heroin in a variety of ways

In the terrible Non-America of Canada, one city of OVER ONE MILLION gives a shelter for heroin users to shoot and needles and medical help, this is one example of the salient bits of blox post.

I don't agree or disagree overall, with anything except your reasoning and the reasoning behind the ineffectual way you communicate ADB.

[QUOTE=Angmar;18434094]with heroin it's typically a pretty consistent dosage when using, alcohol varies greatly.[/QUOTE]

that's not even close to true. when i do heroin i do one or two bags and snort them. my friend taylor has shot ten bags at once. tolerance builds and some people use far more than others.

some people need .05g others need a whole gram or more

I have a real hard time believing 10 bags of heroin is safer than 10 shots of vodka.

[QUOTE=blockhead;18434096]you said that people consume alcohol in a variety of ways. i was saying that people use heroin in a variety of ways[/QUOTE]


I was referring more to volume than frequency of drinking, see my last post.

[QUOTE=Angmar;18434100]I have a real hard time believing 10 bags of heroin is safer than 10 shots of vodka.




I was referring more to volume than frequency of drinking, see my last post.[/QUOTE]

i'm not comparing a bag to a shot. i'm just saying the amount people use varies greatly

[QUOTE=blockhead;18434099]that's not even close to true. when i do heroin i do one or two bags and snort them. my friend taylor has shot ten bags at once. tolerance builds and some people use far more than others.[/QUOTE]
that sounds like me and my friend last year

so glad i kicked that habit

oh HEY i totally forgot to mention the overdose window comparisons of alcohol and heroin

alcohol's is GAPING compared to heroin

I MEAN FUCKIN GAPING

i smacked myself all the way home from school for failing to mention that


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overdose from heroin is almost always caused by mixing with other depressants or unknown purity. i'm not saying heroin is harmless, obviously it's very bad for you. all i'm saying is that alcohol withdrawal can kill you and opiate withdrawal cannot. that is a fact.

[quote=blockhead;18434116]overdose from heroin is almost always caused by mixing with other depressants or unknown purity[/quote]
so?

that's the case from deaths since usually the only people who arent careful and OD are the batshit ones who mix anything with everything. for a first time user of alcohol and heroin, it would take wayyyy mroe alcohol to kill them (i mean a fuckin lot) compared to heroin

that's what the OD window refers to

Get intoxicated and let get intoxicated, I say.

the point i'm making is that alcohol withdrawal can kill you and therefore is worse than opiate withdrawal which is basically just very unpleasant

what the hell are you talking about noon

drugs like pot and heroin aren't socially acceptable to a mass market

especially heroin, pot will be legal in a decade or two once more baby boomers die out

if heroin became legal it wouldn't be in our lifetime