it's a cult

i use on and off and i'm not even close to addicted or using heroin.

have some self control son

uh but he is addicted, so it's very different

i was too but i stopped without AA

all it takes is detox then control yourself

Well, it depends on what sort of substance you're addicted to and your genetics

if i can do it i don't see why he can't

i was addicted to heroin

he's addicted to heroin

i was really bad off for a lot longer than he's been on it too

[quote=blockhead;18760889]i was addicted to heroin

he's addicted to heroin

i was really bad off for a lot longer than he's been on it too[/quote]
Well plenty of people are addicted to heroin but they are at different levels of coping with it


in short banish all drugs from your life

lol

why ALL drugs though? that's totally retarded.

i haven't done heroin or been addicted to anything in 6 months now and before i was on heroin a while doing ten bags a day. now i still take hydrocodone but i don't take them every day and i'm not back on heroin.

i don't see what the problem is. i wanted to stop doing heroin not every thing.

it doesnt have to be all out heroin addiction or completely sobriety

i'm DEFINITELY an addict too so don't tell me i don't have the genes

Water fasts = god.

the whole idea that complete sobriety is the one and only way to rid yourself of addiction is a total myth

its all about self control and not using every day so you aren't addicted again

i actually agree with sam on this, and this is kind of the field i'm going in to.

i still drink, but it's not like i need alcohol to function anymore.

I like the feeling of control from fasts and diet manipulation. It's actually quite, I won't say addictive, but habit forming.

I just don't see drugs as something that should be a part of people's lives. Just my personal opinion. I know people that use them recreationally with no real problems. I just think not doing drugs eliminates a lot of BS from your life straight out of the gate.

I dunno Ron. There's not much difference between recreational drug use and ECA stacks for bodybuilding.

[quote=Aaron;18760901]I dunno Ron. There's not much difference between recreational drug use and ECA stacks for bodybuilding.[/quote]
heroin is quite different from ECA

ECAs = Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin.

EDOIT: I can't see there being any behavioural difference between stim missue and overuse of rec drugs. I mean, it's worse really to know about something in detail (which you have to for stacks, or stims) and to still missuse it.

I'm guessing most people that use heroin misuse it more often then you or I potentially misusing supplements, though.

I dunno dude. dunno if you can make that moral distinction unless you've used both.

How many death's/crimes/families ruined was caused by ECAs, though?


heroin is objectively worse in most cases

hard Bodybuilding supplements are like ten thousand times worse for you than heroin are you serious

heroin's not even unhealthy in moderation, its been proven to cause rebirth of cells which revitalizes life systems