[QUOTE=Badmoon]^Well, do not act like John Lennon had good intentions while saying that, nor when he stated he thought he was Jesus, nor when he insulted Jerry G. by refering to him a J.C..

Karma...perhaps.

And for the record, I think that is an incorrect statement.[/QUOTE]
So you think John Lennon deserved to die just because of such a remark?

What did he say about Jerry?

[QUOTE=Badmoon]I into a lot of Lennon's solo stuff. "Give Peace a Chance" owns though. :)[/QUOTE]

Don't forget Imagine, good one too, in my opinion cause of its message.

[QUOTE=Schyma]So you think John Lennon deserved to die just because of such a remark?

What did he say about Jerry?[/QUOTE]

I didn't say he deserved to die.

I just think he was an arrogant and pretenious jackass.

When he first met Jerry, he was insulted on his and the Grateful Dead's fanbase and generally them (from what I hear). He kept refering to Garcia as J.C. (Jesus Christ) which of course insulted him, and then he asked Bill Graham (Owned of the Fillmore's) if he can find him a guitar and big amp so he can play over Garcia.

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]Don't forget Imagine, good one too, in my opinion cause of its message.[/QUOTE]


I meant to say I'm not into his solo stuff, incase you misread that.

I only care for two songs off of Imagine.

[QUOTE=Badmoon]I didn't say he deserved to die.

When he first met Jerry insulted on his and the Grateful Dead's fanbase and generally them (from what I hear). He kept refering to Garcia as J.C. (Jesus Christ) which of course insulted him, and then he asked Bill Graham (Owned of the Fillmore's) if he can find him a guitar and big amp so he can play over Garcia.[/QUOTE]
I know! I mean who wants to be called Jesus Christ? Gosh that would hurt me to the point of tears. :p

Happy postin' for the day. :wave:

Anyone like contry joe and the fish?

[QUOTE=Schyma]I know! I mean who wants to be called Jesus Christ? Gosh that would hurt me to the point of tears. :p

Happy postin' for the day. :wave:[/QUOTE]
Remember Schyma, anyone who dislikes the Grateful Dead is automatically pretentious. :p

[QUOTE=White_heat]Anyone like contry joe and the fish?[/QUOTE]

Electric Music is great. And Lennon > Grateful Dead IMO- look at my avatar ;).

/awaits flaming

I find Greatful Dead and Lennon too diffrent to compare...

Yea I know, I was just trying to start some interesting conversation. Both are great in completely different ways.

[QUOTE=B0nz0]yea i was worried that was just my imagination. o i just discovered a great classic rock band by the name of The Moody Blues. now they are good. check out "Nights in White Satin," "Tuesday Afternoon," "Ride my SeeSaw," and "I'm just a singer (in a rock and roll band)."[/QUOTE]

Hey i saw the moody blues just like 5 days ago when they were in Phoenix. You got goood taste man

I saw a Beatles tribute band play three songs at Disney World. The songs I heard were Eleanor Rigby, Magical Mystery Tour, and some song my dad didn't even recognize. They were called The British Invasion.

I have 10 of Badmoon's favorite albums.

/10 pages late

[QUOTE=Woodstock]Remember Schyma, anyone who dislikes the Grateful Dead is automatically pretentious. :p[/QUOTE]

Do you know the defintion of pretentious? Do you know who John Lennon is?

So what if Lennon was pretentious? Most musicians/stars are. I don't really care if he was pretentious as long as I enjoy his music. He wasn't even as pretentious as Paul and half the other rockstars of the '60s. This is a pointless arguement.

[QUOTE]He wasn't even as pretentious as Paul and half the other rockstars of the '60s.[/QUOTE]

Wow! That's gotta wrong. Now please explain why McCartney is more pretentious. What's the most controversial/seeking attention kind of thing Paul's done? Give a free concert, "Give Ireland back to the Irish", be a vegatarian?

Name me some artists who were more attention seeking than John Lennon in the 60's.

I'm not saying it sets his music back or anything, but wow, what an annoying guy (IMO). I'm not even saying he means to do it, I'm just saying it sets him back in my book.

[QUOTE=Schyma]I know! I mean who wants to be called Jesus Christ? Gosh that would hurt me to the point of tears. :p

Happy postin' for the day. :wave:[/QUOTE]

My nickname is Jesus. I don't mind it, although none of my closest friends call me it. They call me Jeff.

From what I've heard in bio's and stuff, John Lennon always had an attitude and sort of an ego. He never seemed hesitant to say his opinion, even if it insulted people. I think we can forgive him though, no one is perfect.

Paul took control of the group, and bossed the others, particularly George around. I'd say that's pretty pretentious. And though by the later years, the Beatles didn't have a star, in the early years Lennon sung all the big hits and was the leader. He put the the band together and so he was pretentous because he felt he was the leader. If you were a huge star, you'd probably have a big ego too. I think he is pretentious, but I still like him and I feel he has a great sense of humor. Reading the Beatles Anthology is essential to understanding him better.

I heard that John was always really mean to George.

He thought of himself as leader of the band? That's not pretentious, that's not even weird, more deserving (on both of their parts).

But then The Beatles broke up, McCartney joined a Rock band and released albums, while John Lennon sat on a mattriss, trying to save the world. He painted street signs with quotes from him and Yoko on them, and call others up and tell them "I love you".

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]I heard that John was always really mean to George.[/QUOTE]

No John and George got along better than Paul and George, but George should have been more respected by both of them.

And you're right, that example is very pretentious, but if you read Lennon's quotes, it really seems that once he met Yoko he was much happier and at peace with himself and sincerely dreamed of a world where everyone could experience that. He kind of tried to make that happen even though it was an impossible task.

Edit- And John made a lot of music during his solo career. Plastic Ono Band and Imagine are two of my favorite albums, while McCartney has made some good music, none of it has topped those. And his other albums weren't that bad, just not as good as the first two. If he had not been killed, he would have made more good music IMO, because his last release before his death, Double Fantasy was very good. It was half him and half Yoko. The Yoko songs ruin it, but if you skip them, his songs are all very good.

I just hear RAM today, it is incredible. Just amazing, I am going to forget everyting anyone said in criticism of McCarney's solo stuff. It has a bad rep.

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I just hear RAM today, it is incredible. Just amazing, I am going to forget everyting anyone said in criticism of McCarney's solo stuff. It has a bad rep.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for making me look like an idiot ;)

I take back my criticism of McCartney from my last post, I haven't even heard Ram and have just heard his most famous songs. Maybe his career was as good as Lennon's I don't really know. I will get Ram eventually, but today I picked up Simon and Garfunkel's greatest hits as well as discovering my parents record collection :cool:.

Simon and Garfunkel rule, but I only have the greatest hits

It's great music to relax to especially "Sounds of Silence"

[QUOTE=robo2448]Thanks for making me look like an idiot ;)

I take back my criticism of McCartney from my last post, I haven't even heard Ram and have just heard his most famous songs. Maybe his career was as good as Lennon's I don't really know. I will get Ram eventually, but today I picked up Simon and Garfunkel's greatest hits as well as discovering my parents record collection :cool:.[/QUOTE]

Haha, I didn't even read that until now.

It is incredible, though, especailly Uncle Albert :thumb:

I also got Dub Side Of The Moon, which is also completly brilliant. It does the original justice

I want that.

Desperately.

Everyone says it's awesome.

[QUOTE=robo2448]I want that.

Desperately.

Everyone says it's awesome.[/QUOTE]

Really? Most people don't seem to believe me
I would send it to you but I have no AIM or media player, but I will tomorrow :D

Well most people don't seem to know it exists. But the ones that do seem to really like it.

[QUOTE=robo2448]No John and George got along better than Paul and George, but George should have been more respected by both of them.

And you're right, that example is very pretentious, but if you read Lennon's quotes, it really seems that once he met Yoko he was much happier and at peace with himself and sincerely dreamed of a world where everyone could experience that. He kind of tried to make that happen even though it was an impossible task.

Edit- And John made a lot of music during his solo career. Plastic Ono Band and Imagine are two of my favorite albums, while McCartney has made some good music, none of it has topped those. And his other albums weren't that bad, just not as good as the first two. If he had not been killed, he would have made more good music IMO, because his last release before his death, Double Fantasy was very good. It was half him and half Yoko. The Yoko songs ruin it, but if you skip them, his songs are all very good.[/QUOTE]

It all depends, John changes his opinions often. In Lennon's last interview with playboy he is really down on George and being very harsh, because George hadn't included John in his book.
I think both you and Badmoon have good points.

What's Dub Side of the Moon?

[QUOTE=White_heat]Simon and Garfunkel rule, but I only have the greatest hits

It's great music to relax to especially "Sounds of Silence"[/QUOTE]

I only have a greatest hits, too, and a Paul Simon solo album (Graceland). They're so good.

np: The Stooges - 1969. I've been really digging the album [I]The Stooges [/I] lately.