[QUOTE=Chaindrive]It's true that the guys will always go for the more feminine girls at that age. It's not so important as you get older though.[/QUOTE]
I guess. It doesn't help my friends telling practically everyone we meet that I'm a lesbian. Ok I'm a little butch, I'm bisexual... but please don't ruin my chances with any guy because they all think I'm gay :-/

I don't think that's fair that you keep putting yourself down. I mean so what if one guy said you're unattractive? That doesn't mean you are. And you certainly don't have to go putting yourself down.

I guess since you were in an all girls school and haven't interacted with guys that much, it has become a slight problem, cause they treat you like one of the guys.

It's a delicate issue, you have to try to act less like one of the guys. I can't really explain how, it's upto you to figure that out. =/

EDIT: If guys find out you're bisexual, they should be attracted to you more. So it might be that they don't want to come of as too "horny" in the hopes to go out with you.

[QUOTE=ProSeries]I don't think that's fair that you keep putting yourself down. I mean so what if one guy said you're unattractive? That doesn't mean you are. And you certainly don't have to go putting yourself down.

I guess since you were in an all girls school and haven't interacted with guys that much, it has become a slight problem, cause they treat you like one of the guys.

It's a delicate issue, you have to try to act less like one of the guys. I can't really explain how, it's upto you to figure that out. =/

EDIT: If guys find out you're bisexual, they should be attracted to you more. So it might be that they don't want to come of as too "horny" in the hopes to go out with you.[/QUOTE]
I don't put myself down. It's just the way it... the problem is trying to accept it and get over my jealousy. And trust me, he's not the first guy to call me unattractive, that was just an example.

To Herbert:

Hang in there. What you're going through was pretty much my story throughout high school. I was always comparing myself to my friends and feeling as if I didn't belong. I kept to a small group of close friends, and other than that I was fairly anti-social.

Now being able to look back at that time I realize that I made alot of my feeling like I didn't belong into more than it really was. Most people that age are extremely immature, and there's nothing really you can do to change things. Just focus your time and energy on other things. As you get older people will come around. In the meantime hang in there, things will work themselves out.

[QUOTE=EizingerIsGod]To Herbert:

Hang in there. What you're going through was pretty much my story throughout high school. I was always comparing myself to my friends and feeling as if I didn't belong. I kept to a small group of close friends, and other than that I was fairly anti-social.

Now being able to look back at that time I realize that I made alot of my feeling like I didn't belong into more than it really was. Most people that age are extremely immature, and there's nothing really you can do to change things. Just focus your time and energy on other things. As you get older people will come around. In the meantime hang in there, things will work themselves out.[/QUOTE]
Thanks :)

Maybe they find you unattractive personality wise? I mean you did say you were one of the guys, so they love you to death as a friend, but they aren't attracted to you in the way you want them to be.

Well, I guess the situation caused you to believe that you aren't that good looking. You have to come to terms with the fact that there will be girls better looking than you. Yet, that shouldn't affect your chances with guys.
Have you tried talking to your friends?

[QUOTE=ProSeries]Maybe they find you unattractive personality wise? I mean you did say you were one of the guys, so they love you to death as a friend, but they aren't attracted to you in the way you want them to be.

Well, I guess the situation caused you to believe that you aren't that good looking. [B]You have to come to terms with the fact that there will be girls better looking than you.[/B] Yet, that shouldn't affect your chances with guys.
Have you tried talking to your friends?[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm trying to do.

I've tried a little... but it hasn't really worked. The first time:
'Oh be quiet, you're really good at everything else'

the second time:

'No you are pretty, really! You just don't [I]try[/I]'

so i was talking to my woman. lol. yea.

yea her phone cut off - "battery".

i feel she is just hiding something. aw well. its ok though - i rang her today and she seemed pretty happy - im just an idiot.

=/..
You'll eventually figure things out, I'm sure.

It happened to me when I was around 15-16 as well. Not many girls looked at me, I was considered the class clown and all I was good for were laughs. So I just continues what I was good at. I mean, I did have girlfriends, just not the ones I preferred.

I guess when I got older, I got more confident, and so now I get my fair share.

You're bound to get yours soon, that's for sure.

[QUOTE=~grif~]so i was talking to my woman. lol. yea.

yea her phone cut off - "battery".

i feel she is just hiding something. aw well. its ok though - i rang her today and she seemed pretty happy - im just an idiot.[/QUOTE]

I'd give you advice, but it seems you've figured it out.

That you're an idiot. =P

[QUOTE=ProSeries]


I'd give you advice, but it seems you've figured it out.

That you're an idiot. =P[/QUOTE]
i like you

i like you alot

:) :thumb: :)

I'm speechless... =')

[QUOTE=~grif~]so i was talking to my woman. lol. yea.

yea her phone cut off - "battery".

i feel she is just hiding something. aw well. its ok though - i rang her today and she seemed pretty happy - im just an idiot.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any real reason to suspect this, besides the fact that her battery may or may not have gone dead.

[QUOTE=Tillius]Do you have any real reason to suspect this, besides the fact that her battery may or may not have gone dead.[/QUOTE]
well its back a couple pages ago, she said something to me went really quiet and i thought she started crying, she dosent like to cry to me or about me and i thought she got so upset that she just hung up on me. but its all cool i soppose.

What did you tell her that made her cry?
Props either way, you made a girl cry!! You're a man!!

Hell yeah!!!!

[QUOTE=Herbert_da_fish]I dunno, it's like I'm just written off, not even considered.[/QUOTE]

I used to get that feeling a lot. Eventually, I just stopped caring. The ironic thing was that after people learned that they had to actually [i]earn[/i] my attention and respect, they weren't nearly so cold.

[QUOTE=Herbert_da_fish]1. Like I said before; he's got no tact.[/quote]

Then put him in his place. You should never have to tolerate classless behavior. Ever.

[quote]2. No, I'm not good looking. I'm not sure if you've seen any pictures of me and this is the first time I've admitted it, but the camera can be very forgiving. Please take my word for it, my friends are better looking than me.[/quote]

Lots of women have told me I'm good-looking. But when I look in the mirror, I see the vanity pounds I still haven't lost. I see every scar, every blemish, every stray hair, and think the way my facial muscles move looks really weird.

Everyone except the truly vain sees their flaws in greater detail than anybody else.

[quote]3. I'm not out of their league, I was never in it.[/quote]

Sounds to me like you're above it.

[quote]4. I act like I would around anyone. They doon't flirt with me, they treat me like one of their mates, so I treat them the same back. I'm not going to embarrass myself with a poor attempt at flirting. I went to an all gir's school for 4 years in primary school, I often wonder if that has had an effect on how I act today. I'm bubbling with confidence and quite often near the centre of attention. I like to mess around and make people laugh. I think my main problem is people feel intimidated by me. I'm also quite... masculine for a girl. Not like really butch but I used to be a real tomboy. I have quite a deep voice, don't really tend to wear skirts or dresses, people say I walk like a guy and other shiznit.[/QUOTE]

To me, it sounds like you're not dealing with men. You're dealing with immature little boys in late-adolescent bodies.

[QUOTE=ProSeries]What did you tell her that made her cry?
Props either way, you made a girl cry!! You're a man!!

Hell yeah!!!![/QUOTE]
lol
yea...i enjoy it..

no but really, she said something like "kev what am i going to do with you" and then she went silent and i thought i heard her cry and the phone hung up. She is away from me atm.

That sucks. Maybe she's in love with you. Sounds like the symptoms.

Are you ready to commit yet?

[QUOTE=ProSeries]That sucks. Maybe she's in love with you. Sounds like the symptoms.

Are you ready to commit yet?[/QUOTE]
i am in love with her.
she proposed to me lol. as a joke that i wasnt too sure if it was a joke...
when she thinks shes pregnant, she kinda wants it to be true.
and its all cool with me though.

love her to bits.

But if im ever going to Propose to her, its going to be really romantic. She hates that, its all cliché - im going to bring her to somewhere special, say something really romantic/korney/makes me look like a dope and propose.
but not now. not yet.

Congrats, rather young, but it's not easy finding love. =o

Ì really hate how when you find someone so special that you know you could spend the rest of you're life with. Like not just some girl you can have fun with, but like shes one that i could just be completely bored with but still want her to be here or not want to talk, but we talk anyway cause it all just flows or whatever.
I hate how you find someone like that at - like me 19, and people dismiss it cause im so young.

Maybe its the fact that I couldnt support both of us yet, but when i can i will.

I meant most people our age, usually like to experiment with different relationships.
Everyone has their different views on relationships. Many people would rather settle down in their mid 20's some don't mind at younger ages, especially if it's something real. If it is, you shouldn't let go.

That's what I meant.

[QUOTE=ProSeries]I meant most people our age, usually like to experiment with different relationships.
Everyone has their different views on relationships. Many people would rather settle down in their mid 20's some don't mind at younger ages, especially if it's something real. If it is, you shouldn't let go.

That's what I meant.[/QUOTE]
yea i know,
im just saying, how people look down on it and arent open minded or realise that you have just met someone you dont think you could ever let go.

thanks

Usually those people are our own parents.

[QUOTE=~grif~]lol
yea...i enjoy it..

no but really, she said something like "kev what am i going to do with you" and then she went silent and i thought i heard her cry and the phone hung up. She is away from me atm.[/QUOTE]
maybe "kev" is what she calls her cell phone battery? :)

I hope i never get bored of my gf.....

I have one thing to say, and one thing only.



















[B][SIZE="7"]FUC[size=7]K[/size] LOVE!!!!!!!!![/SIZE][/B]

I sort of agree.

It has two sides. It can make you sad or happy, but mostly sad.

[QUOTE=Aakon_Keetreh]I sort of agree.

It has two sides. It can make you sad or happy, but mostly sad.[/QUOTE]

agreed, but when it's good it feels so amazing. little can compare the feeling of caring about somebody and knowing they care about you.

[QUOTE=Tillius]I have one thing to say, and one thing only.



[B][SIZE="7"]FUC[size=7]K[/size] LOVE!!!!!!!!![/SIZE][/B][/QUOTE]


Cue self loathing, whiny bitching, and dumbassedness in this thread.

so yeah, i posted awhile ago about some gf troubles. we got over those, even though it was somewhat a hassle i'd rather not go through again. The thing that gets me about her is that like....most of the time, things are good, and we get along, especially when were together in person, were all touchy feely and you know...i like it. but it seems like sometimes when she's online, she is really bi polar. she will get mad over things, and usually it isn't about me, or at least she claims, she never wants to talk about what's bothering her, she just says "nothing" and continues being short with me. Idk, it seems like sometimes we don't even have that much in common or anything, and other times we talk for hours, it's kinda wierd. idk, it seems like our whole relationship is bi polar, sometimes it's like super happy, and i hope we never break up, but lately there has been more then a few times where i've though, as much as I wouldn't like it, it probably would be nice if we broke up. idk, i probably worry too much, hopefully we'll just start having more of the good times, and less of the wierd bad times.

[QUOTE=Herbert_da_fish]I can excel at loads of things compared to my friends... but sometimes they hold that against me which ends up maing me feel worse. And it's like "But I can do all these things, and yet you still prefer them??". And yeah Geoff is not tactful and that did actually hurt me despite me not showing it. He can be a twat sometimes.


1. Like I said before; he's got no tact.
2. No, I'm not good looking. I'm not sure if you've seen any pictures of me and this is the first time I've admitted it, but the camera can be very forgiving. Please take my word for it, my friends are better looking than me.
3. I'm not out of their league, I was never in it.
4. I act like I would around anyone. They doon't flirt with me, they treat me like one of their mates, so I treat them the same back. I'm not going to embarrass myself with a poor attempt at flirting. I went to an all gir's school for 4 years in primary school, I often wonder if that has had an effect on how I act today. I'm bubbling with confidence and quite often near the centre of attention. I like to mess around and make people laugh. I think my main problem is people feel intimidated by me. I'm also quite... masculine for a girl. Not like really butch but I used to be a real tomboy. I have quite a deep voice, don't really tend to wear skirts or dresses, people say I walk like a guy and other shiznit.[/QUOTE]

Even if you already have the answers you wanted/needed, im still going to write this out, im pretty sure, that i know exactly how you feel.

For instance i have never had attention from girls, hardly anyone sees my good sides, and yeah i feel like i am taken for granted as someone who is kept around to tease/make a joke out of for entertainment purposes.

The guy who told you blatantly to your face that you're unattractive and he wouldn't bother with you? He's a dick, sadly a great portion of the male population are also dicks, such as the ones i hang around with.

From the photo i've seen in the MX photo album, you are attractive. Try not to think so much "why are there prettier girls than me" and more along the lines of "i am much prettier than lots of girls around the world". As steerpike said you tend to notice imperfections about yourself more than others do. I know that some people have told me i am fairly attractive, yet i deem myself to be ugly as f[SIZE="2"]uck[/SIZE], the guys who tell you you are unnattractive, are not only extremely rude to say things in such a way, but also, as stated above, dicks.

I agree with what the others said about pursuing the things you're good at and holding them as things which you have over your friends. Even if at the moment your friends hold these things against you (if im right you're talking about them not really caring/when you accomplish something they'll act like you wasted your time doing whatever it is you accomplished?). I know this is what 99% of my friends seem to do, and the few accomplishments i do have are only appreciated by a select few good friends, and i know how it feels when you just think "well why bother when nothing good comes of it". If this is your situation, then i have no idea how to help you out here, or else i probably wouldn't still be putting up with it. I've come to the conclusion that those 99% of my friends who hold my accomplishments against me, wont long be my friends. I don't know if this is the same way you feel towards it, but good luck with that anyway.

Buh, i don't think i so much gave you any advice as i did compare my situation to yours haha, sorry, i hope it helps somewhat. But make sure you kick geoff in the balls. Hard.

Twice.

Nevermind, I posted while half asleep and sad.

I have a question for the ladies...how would you react if when you went to hug one of your male friends you could feel his boner poking into you? :upset:

[QUOTE=_ThisSecretNinja_]I have a question for the ladies...how would you react if when you went to hug one of your male friends you could feel his boner poking into you? :upset:[/QUOTE]

1. It was really a banana in his pocket, or
2. He was just happy to see you.

[QUOTE=_ThisSecretNinja_]I have a question for the ladies...how would you react if when you went to hug one of your male friends you could feel his boner poking into you? :upset:[/QUOTE]

This belongs in the awkward moments thread for sure. Maybe she didn't notice.

[QUOTE=Jo Shoe Wah]Even if you already have the answers you wanted/needed, im still going to write this out, im pretty sure, that i know exactly how you feel.

For instance i have never had attention from girls, hardly anyone sees my good sides, and yeah i feel like i am taken for granted as someone who is kept around to tease/make a joke out of for entertainment purposes.

The guy who told you blatantly to your face that you're unattractive and he wouldn't bother with you? He's a dick, sadly a great portion of the male population are also dicks, such as the ones i hang around with.

From the photo i've seen in the MX photo album, you are attractive. Try not to think so much "why are there prettier girls than me" and more along the lines of "i am much prettier than lots of girls around the world". As steerpike said you tend to notice imperfections about yourself more than others do. I know that some people have told me i am fairly attractive, yet i deem myself to be ugly as f[SIZE="2"]uck[/SIZE], the guys who tell you you are unnattractive, are not only extremely rude to say things in such a way, but also, as stated above, dicks.

I agree with what the others said about pursuing the things you're good at and holding them as things which you have over your friends. Even if at the moment your friends hold these things against you (if im right you're talking about them not really caring/when you accomplish something they'll act like you wasted your time doing whatever it is you accomplished?). I know this is what 99% of my friends seem to do, and the few accomplishments i do have are only appreciated by a select few good friends, and i know how it feels when you just think "well why bother when nothing good comes of it". If this is your situation, then i have no idea how to help you out here, or else i probably wouldn't still be putting up with it. I've come to the conclusion that those 99% of my friends who hold my accomplishments against me, wont long be my friends. I don't know if this is the same way you feel towards it, but good luck with that anyway.

Buh, i don't think i so much gave you any advice as i did compare my situation to yours haha, sorry, i hope it helps somewhat. But make sure you kick geoff in the balls. Hard.

Twice.[/QUOTE]
:lol: thanks for the advice :) sometimes it's just nice to know there others out there too :huggle:

alright, the thing is i have a girlfriend and i love her to death. But now a another girl is hittin on me and this girl is VERY sexually attractive. Now i love my girlfriend a lot, but i have a problem with inhibitions. I dont have many. I am easily tempted and i give in easily. The other girl wants to hang out again, and im a really friendly person, and couldnt bring myself to say no to hanging out again. These girls also know each other, they used to be best friends, but the other knows im going out with my gf, so she probably isnt gonna say anything to my gf. also she doesnt like my gf anymore.
I am at a loss at what to do.

Another thing, there may be a third girl, whos also hitting on me....
im in a dilemma

[QUOTE=chickensandwiches]alright, the thing is i have a girlfriend and i love her to death. But now a another girl is hittin on me and this girl is VERY sexually attractive. Now i love my girlfriend a lot, but i have a problem with inhibitions. I dont have many. I am easily tempted and i give in easily. The other girl wants to hang out again, and im a really friendly person, and couldnt bring myself to say no to hanging out again. These girls also know each other, they used to be best friends, but the other knows im going out with my gf, so she probably isnt gonna say anything to my gf. also she doesnt like my gf anymore.
I am at a loss at what to do.

Another thing, there may be a third girl, whos also hitting on me....
im in a dilemma[/QUOTE]

If you really loved your girlfriend you wouldn't even question your fidelity to her. The fact that you are even considering "accidentally" acting on your inhibitions (which is what you seem to be implying here) is proof enough. There is nothing wrong about hanging out with this girl, or even finding her attractive. But once you act on it everything changes. You need to think about your situation with your girlfriend and ask yourself if you are truely commited to her.

And consider yourself lucky that 3 girls would be interested in you at one time.

That's always the way. Three at a time then nothing for ages.

Hello again thread! I'm really rubbish at posting in here regularly.

I have no problem at all. The closest is what to get my girlfriend for our 6 months? I figured it was quite important as it is half a year, plus with all the fights that've happened with various friends it was quite an achievement to have such a stable relationship.

Any ideas are welcome. I don't have too much money as I don't work at the moment what with exams coming up, but if you just throw realistic ideas at me whenever you get the chance that'd be great!