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lunch998 05-17-2005 07:28 PM

I was talking about him using yousendit and uploading the file. After you upload the file, you can copy and paste the link into a post, while will allow users here to download the file.

[url]http://www.yousendit.com/[/url]

BigTrav415 05-17-2005 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]EAsily.

Also, does anyone else prefer to listen to Dark Side in the car? The first time I heard it I was on the road and I loved it.[/QUOTE]

About two months I had to go down to Wilmington (2 1/2 hour drive) to meet the lady who was going to be my stepmom in two weeks (yeah and I had just learned about her :upset: ) My dad put on his vinyl of DSotM the day before (first time I'd ever heard it) and that was all I could think about. He dug up a cassette of it somewhere, and we listened to it on the way down the next day, and then on the way back the next day. It was pitch dark, going down I-95, like 12:30 PM. Awesome.

Ironically, the next time we went up I had bought The Wall and WYWH (as well as DSotM CD) so, we listened to that too.

BigTrav415 05-17-2005 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]I was talking about him using yousendit and uploading the file. After you upload the file, you can copy and paste the link into a post, while will allow users here to download the file.

[url]http://www.yousendit.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

I knew how to do that too... I knew how to do it all along... Now I feel like a dumbass for real.

EDIT: Ok, I guess I didnt know, how do you just post it on the server wiht a link without e-mailing it to anyone?

TheDMV 05-17-2005 07:49 PM

[QUOTE]About two months I had to go down to Wilmington (2 1/2 hour drive)[/QUOTE]

Where do you live? I'm in PA, assuming you mean Wilmington Delaware.

lunch998 05-17-2005 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]Wher do you live?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://entertainmentforums.greatboard.com/index.php?gb=entertainmentforums[/url]

The link for the Entertainment Forums (sorry for advertising in here). I didn't want to talk about it in the Community Thread though, people would get annoyed.

TheDMV 05-17-2005 07:50 PM

Thanks lunch.

EDIT: woah, you're a mod. Cool.

BigTrav415 05-17-2005 07:51 PM

It's Wilmington, North Carolina. Sorry if you thought I was talking about Deleware. If you did think I was talking about NC, i'm in Rocky Mount. Doubt you were though....

EDIT: Never mind about the YSI, I found the sticky thread. God I feel like such a dumbass :lol: I'll post the link.

pigonthewing82 05-17-2005 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]I just downloaded a 1972 live DSotM on Limewire, listening to Breathe right now, sounds completely different than the studio version, but not in a bad way. Pretty crazy.

EDIT: On The Run sounds completely different, they're using guitars and drums, very few effects. It hardly sounds like it at all; I'm only assuming it's On the Run actually, can't tell except from placement.[/QUOTE]

It sounds like what you have is Eclipse of the Dark Side, A Piece for Assorted Lunatics (the original name for DSOTM). That was the first time Dark Side of the Moon had been played by the band on stage. This is before the album was relased so that is why it so compleatly different. They substituted the tape effects for instrumental jams on songs like On The Run. I have that one, its good I just wish the sound quailty was better. I prefer my 1973 bootleg, coming soon to a Pink Floyd thread near you :thumb:

BigTrav415 05-17-2005 08:12 PM

And here you go:
[url]http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32AV08O79QO670KZVNXRF6FU06[/url]

Practically steaming with freshness, grab it while its hot.
And whatever it is, it's cool... it had a bit of Shine on You Crazy Diamond as well :thumb:

snorfledumpkins 05-17-2005 08:17 PM

saw the live video of comfortably numb the other day.... my god.... blew my friggin mind. (from the '95 pulse tour) so cool. i prefer dsotm to the wall, because dsotm pretty much all the songs are like great songs and keep me interested(maybe on the run which gets repetitive). but the wall, there's like 12 songs on it that just lose me, most of them are a little too emotional and slow. i prefer animals over both of them though.

Big_Matt 05-17-2005 09:13 PM

Does anyone know if Pulse will be coming out on DVD?

After watching my video a few times, years ago now, I have been hoping for a DVD version that wont drop quality!

And Yeah! Comfortably Numb rocks on that tour (as does the last solo in Another Brick pt.11, Gilmour plays the one after the words but then that dude (used to know his name... I think he is a session player that did the tour with them) rocks it completely, man he is a freak!

Riva 05-17-2005 11:29 PM

Hey guys, I have a great idea for the Pink Floyd thread. Basically, we pick an album, and then we each dibs a song, and then analyse it line by line, or verse by verse. This would be a nice way to see who thinks what when it comes to Pink Floyd. We can also comment on everyone's analyses.

This is going to be a very casual thing. It's not going to dominate the discussion, etc. Thoughts?

I vote DSOTM first. :)

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 05-18-2005 06:29 AM

Very great idea! I vote DSOTM first aswell. :)

This will give people that are ignoriant to a certain album an insight on what it's actual meaning is or isn't. Very great idea Riva. :thumb:

Big_Matt 05-18-2005 07:09 AM

Back wken I was in high school, which is not all that recent anymore, we were studying a topic area in English called "Crossing Boundaries" Now I am an engineer now, so English was never my strong point, so I decided to select Comfortably Numb to analyse about how the person in the song "Crosses a boundry" it is simply proof that you can say whatever you want about song lyrics because you can be very subjective! Now I am not discouraging the idea you put forward, I am quite keen to join in (but would like Animals forst), I am simply glad that I was able to squeeze Pink Floyd into my high school studies to make it more interesting!

slowhand 05-18-2005 08:10 AM

[QUOTE=skynyrd73]Thats becasue every kid dreams of being a "Rebel", i mean comon, if you actualy listen to the entire song, it never talks about the public school kids, and as before, its about "crapy" teachers, and about the riots, i got what you mean, im not saying that "rap" riots you got to love, im just saying, personaly i love riots! (G&R!!)....[/QUOTE]

If you think that I'm saying that to be 'hip,' you couldn't be farther from the thruth.

For me [i]Another Brick in the Wall part 2[/i] has come to represent what the lyrics say bluntly. School has been nothing more than a place where they create machines, to think alike and not to be any different from society. They never take the chance to figure out children's individual abilities, and so letting many to find themselves flooded with things they just can't comprehend. [b]"We don't need no thought control."[/b]

And to simply put the song as one to criticize 'private' school is simply stupid. Do you really think Waters will just criticize a private school and leave behind public schools, where teachers are as bad, if not worst, than in private schools? In a private school when a teachers does something and the child tells his/her parents about it, they would go straight to the school and demand some sort of justice, since the pay much more for the education of their children than in some public schools, where teachers have more freedom.

So, don't you 'comon' me and label me as d[b]i[/b]ck who just listens to [i]Another Brick in the Wall part 2[/i] to be 'hip' or 'cool,' because I'm not. Where I live, there are no 'cool' kids who listen to Pink Floyd, in fact, I'm the only one in my area who listens to the Floyd, so I'm the one getting the weird looks when I listen to them.

[i]Another Brick in the Wall part 2[/i] has come to represent something completely different to me than what was intended in the album. That's the only thing I care about.

slowhand 05-18-2005 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Hey guys, I have a great idea for the Pink Floyd thread. Basically, we pick an album, and then we each dibs a song, and then analyse it line by line, or verse by verse. This would be a nice way to see who thinks what when it comes to Pink Floyd. We can also comment on everyone's analyses.

This is going to be a very casual thing. It's not going to dominate the discussion, etc. Thoughts?

I vote DSOTM first. :)[/QUOTE]

Well, I vote for [b]WYWH[/b]... of course, if you guys give me some time, since I don't get on that much.

skynyrd73 05-18-2005 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]If you think that I'm saying that to be 'hip,' you couldn't be farther from the thruth.

For me [i]Another Brick in the Wall part 2[/i] has come to represent what the lyrics say bluntly. School has been nothing more than a place where they create machines, to think alike and not to be any different from society. They never take the chance to figure out children's individual abilities, and so letting many to find themselves flooded with things they just can't comprehend. [b]"We don't need no thought control."[/b]

And to simply put the song as one to criticize 'private' school is simply stupid. Do you really think Waters will just criticize a private school and leave behind public schools, where teachers are as bad, if not worst, than in private schools? In a private school when a teachers does something and the child tells his/her parents about it, they would go straight to the school and demand some sort of justice, since the pay much more for the education of their children than in some public schools, where teachers have more freedom.

So, don't you 'comon' me and label me as d[b]i[/b]ck who just listens to [i]Another Brick in the Wall part 2[/i] to be 'hip' or 'cool,' because I'm not. Where I live, there are no 'cool' kids who listen to Pink Floyd, in fact, I'm the only one in my area who listens to the Floyd, so I'm the one getting the weird looks when I listen to them.

[i]Another Brick in the Wall part 2[/i] has come to represent something completely different to me than what was intended in the album. That's the only thing I care about.[/QUOTE]
Ok, first off, have you ever seen The Wall movie, and not just the movie, but its obviouse, umm...theyre living there,..(private school), and i agree about what you said about machines, but i hate when kids of today just say of great aong because one line, because theres more to it then that.

YouGottaBeCrazy 05-18-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=skynyrd73]but i hate when kids of today just say of great aong because one line[/QUOTE]

What?

Big_Matt 05-18-2005 08:33 PM

Kids sing "We dont need no education" because they think, screw school and all these teachers, they can't be bothered learning so they are having a whinge.

The meaning of this line, in context, is not about avoiding education, but rather about avoiding the education stlyes which Roger Waters himself went through when growing up. For instance, "No dark sarcasm in the classroom" the teachers were excessivley strict, using the students as a stepping stone to feel better about themselves... much like the class bully does.

The specific case in the movie shows a teacher who lives in fear of his wife... so he makes the students live in fear of him.

This is why the line is taken out of context by kids today, not saying the above no longer happens, I am sure it does, but whinging about the education itself is out of context.

MalcolmYoungRock 05-18-2005 08:57 PM

Riva - Nice idea, we'd have to present it like a FA.

Everyone colllaborates on AIM and sends it to one person who makes a 1 thread or post about it.

So it'll look like:


[b]Speak to Me/Breathe[/b]
[i]Written by: MYR[/i]

In this song, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....


[b]On the Run[/b]
[i]Written by: HeavyRiva[/i]

This song.. not much to say.


You catch my drift?

Riva 05-18-2005 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=Big_Matt]
The specific case in the movie shows a teacher who lives in fear of his wife... so he makes the students live in fear of him.
[/QUOTE]
As Happiest Days Of Our Lives says just before the start of ABITWII:

"But how were we to know that when they got home at night their fat and psycopathic wives would beat them to within an inch of their lives?"

MYR: Yeah, I like that idea, but even if you guys just wanna post your analyses in here, and I can edit them into the first post of this thread... :)

slowhand 05-19-2005 07:37 AM

[QUOTE=skynyrd73]Ok, first off, have you ever seen The Wall movie, and not just the movie, but its obviouse, umm...theyre living there,..(private school), and i agree about what you said about machines, but i hate when kids of today just say of great aong because one line, because theres more to it then that.[/QUOTE]

So, you're telling me that when you have a political sattire is just directed at one political candidate? No.

When you do something of that scale is to point out the failure in all of the educational institute, not just one. And how do you know that they're private school? The one where Pink goes everyone goes without uniform, yet the one where the kids are marching do wear uniforms (signaling that it is a private school). You can also see that when they sing the chorus, you see different kids, different schools, saying that it just doesn't happen in one, but in all.

Don't try to be a smart-as[b]s[/b] around me.

Scooch 05-19-2005 09:09 AM

Well I watched Wizard of Oz and listened to DSOTM. I started the cd once the MGM Loin roared his third time. There were a few things that seemed like the DSOTM could have been an alternate soundtrack to Oz, most notably when Dorthy is balancing on the fence the lyrics on the Breathe Reprise track says Balanced on the biggest wave then at the exact time of the finally beat she falls off the fence. Overall I would say it's just a coincedence that there are similar endings and startings of scenes and tracks. Maybe if I was high it would've been better.

moaner 05-19-2005 09:25 AM

another brick in the wall p2 was about rogers personal experiences of school. We couldn't hazard a guess as to whether he was also critising the entire idea of schools, just private schools, or what.

moaner 05-19-2005 09:26 AM

who else thinks that ABITW p2 isn't really that good a song at all?

standard 05-19-2005 01:31 PM

i think it's a very good song. i love the riffs, both guitar and bass.

lunch998 05-19-2005 01:46 PM

Maybe overrated, but I still like it.

TheDMV 05-19-2005 01:49 PM

I loved it the first few times I heard it, but after that, It just started to get old. I thyink that it is waaay overplayed. Too many good songs are ruined that way. :upset:

TheDMV 05-19-2005 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=Heavy Riva]Hey guys, I have a great idea for the Pink Floyd thread. Basically, we pick an album, and then we each dibs a song, and then analyse it line by line, or verse by verse. This would be a nice way to see who thinks what when it comes to Pink Floyd. We can also comment on everyone's analyses.

This is going to be a very casual thing. It's not going to dominate the discussion, etc. Thoughts?

I vote DSOTM first. [/QUOTE]

I will do this! :thumb:

I'd love to do Time. If you guys want to give me that responsibility I'll try to do it justice.

lunch998 05-19-2005 01:53 PM

So why don't we get it started? I know everyone probably wants to do a different album, but it makes sense to do DSotM first.

As in if you want to do this, call dibs on Dark Side tracks.

standard 05-19-2005 02:02 PM

On the note of Another Brick In The Wall... Today in school, Pink Floyd was brought up somehow.

I was SHOCKED, but I didn't hear a SINGLE person say anything about this song, or sing it. It was actually a discussion about DSotM more than anything.

TheDMV 05-19-2005 02:05 PM

/heart pounds


dibs...


on Time!

There I've said it. I'll do my best.

Kingofdudes 05-19-2005 02:09 PM

The Pulse DVD is still being worked on, they keep pushing the release day back(to a question a page back)

DeusExMachina 05-19-2005 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]I'm glad so many people agree with me about dances, any music that they've never heard before is considered complete ****. I was seriously considering playing both Run Like Hell and Comfortably Numb, but as I said earlier the bitches at my scool can't live without their mainstream bull**** hip-hop. They played that ****ing gwen stefani song "holla back girl" or something TWICE. Jesus, I hate people! Actually, the person organizing the dance put a sheet in some class where you put songs you wanted, but all the songs I put got marked over and someone wrote "Rock sux". I'm not kidding. WYWH is aout the most traditional sounding PF song, so it worked pretty good as a finale. Oh yeah, and my friend was begging me to play Another Brick pt. 2, but that would incite riot.[/QUOTE]

Simmer down, dude. What does it matter what other people listen to? I for one am a HUGE Pink Floyd fan, anyone in this thread will confirm that. However, I like a lot of hip-hop. Just because you don't like the music taste of others doesn't mean that you're right and they're wrong.

[QUOTE=rock not roll]On the Run is kind of boring and pointless, although I always listen to it anyways (for the sake of listening to the whole album). The Great Gig In The Sky is the best instrumental in DSotehmoon[/QUOTE]

Mmm... I don't really consider Great Gig in the Sky an instrumental. It doesn't have set lyrics, but it does have vocals. Whatever, I suppose I'm just splitting hairs here.

I haven't listened to Animals in awhile, but I know Dogs is at first Gilmour, and then Waters. Pigs (3 Different Ones) is Waters. Don't remember Sheep.

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]And here you go:
[url]http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32AV08O79QO670KZVNXRF6FU06[/url]

Practically steaming with freshness, grab it while its hot.
And whatever it is, it's cool... it had a bit of Shine on You Crazy Diamond as well :thumb:[/QUOTE]

If it has SOYCD on it, it can't be one of the earliest recordings. SOYCD wasn't written until 1975.

slowhand 05-19-2005 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=moaner]another brick in the wall p2 was about rogers personal experiences of school. We couldn't hazard a guess as to whether he was also critising the entire idea of schools, just private schools, or what.[/QUOTE]

Actually, if you listen to the commentary while watching the movie he sorts of explains that the song is directed at teachers who abuse their students (be it physically or mentally). So, yes, we do know what the song is about. Yes, Roger wrote it because of his personal experience, but he also wanted to get a point out. It's like saying that [b]Animals[/b] is based on Roger's life and what he experienced in society, rather than criticizing our whole society.

robo2448 05-19-2005 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]

If it has SOYCD on it, it can't be one of the earliest recordings. SOYCD wasn't written until 1975.[/QUOTE]

i'm pretty sure he was talking about the guitar chord progression

robo2448 05-19-2005 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=lunch998]So why don't we get it started? I know everyone probably wants to do a different album, but it makes sense to do DSotM first.

As in if you want to do this, call dibs on Dark Side tracks.[/QUOTE]

i'm in, i'll do brain damage.

bennyl 05-19-2005 03:32 PM

I call Speak to me/Breathe

MalcolmYoungRock 05-19-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]/heart pounds


dibs...


on Time!

There I've said it. I'll do my best.[/QUOTE]

Fu[color=white]ck[/color], I wanted to do Time.

Fine, I'll do Money.

Riva, what's your AIM? I'll help you organize it.

Mine: EmWhyAre

SpLiT 05-19-2005 06:04 PM

cool... i just learned ''wish you were here'' for my girlfriend and i just broke a string ...
pretty good song though


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