That's good pay but not as good on your resume as a real-type job so sort of a trade off.

edit: Well yeah but I'm just saying :p

Although that sort of thing sounds very teenager of you no offense ^_^

Yeah, Washington has the highest minimum wage in the states. (7.93). A very good rate too, though that's what Iget paid for doing physical labor.:(

[QUOTE]i make $25 an hour tutoring high school kids in math.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure? If that turned into a full-time job you could afford your own house...

Anybody hear about the new iPod that they might announce soon? Apparently it has a huge touch screen. Jollies!

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15236564]worst idea evar[/QUOTE]

Nah, it's great while it lasts. Pure relaxation and enjoyment.

$25 an hour will not buy you a house even full time =\

Well I guess it depends on what sort of house and where...but in general that's more in the condo range imo.

[QUOTE=Dimmu Burger;15237147]Anybody hear about the new iPod that they might announce soon? Apparently it has a huge touch screen. Jollies![/QUOTE]

There have been photoshop'd pictures of that for ever. I don't even believe it any more.

I meant in general living terms, not necessarily home owning.

Yeah, I know tutors who make absurd amounts of money. Somewhere around 100 bucks an hour, I think.

Then again, I live in a very rich community.

first class is in like 5 hours. :(

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15237155]I meant in general living terms, not necessarily home owning.[/QUOTE]
Still depends, to rent the house we're renting this year he had to have a net income over 6600 a month amongst the people signing the lease. If he got a roommate or two that would work.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda;15237154]There have been photoshop'd pictures of that for ever. I don't even believe it any more.[/QUOTE]

Don't you crush my hopes and dreams!!!

It fully relies on the area, since we don't live in the same state. I know several people who rent on the hourly wage that I brought up.

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;15237173]It fully relies on the area, since we don't live in the same state. I know several people who rent on the hourly wage that I brought up.[/QUOTE]
Very true. But it's not even state just area. If they lived in Seattle they'd be lucky to get an apartment =\

I live in an area considered urban so real estate is expensive here too =\

My dad works as the head athletic trainer at Wesleyan University and he still can't get me a job there somehow. =/

I was curious, how is "illegal" downloading detected? All the horror stories I've read about people being fined for thousands seemed to be college students in dorms where the internet activity is pretty obviously being monitored.

And if the RIAA is so hot how come they haven't shut this site down because of the DUs? It's not like this site is hidden or anything.

My Dad is a teacher at my high school and I actually have CAD with him this year.

._.

[QUOTE]If they lived in Seattle they'd be lucky to get an apartment =\[/QUOTE]

Oh of course not. A very select few could live in a city, let alone an apartment. I can't remember their montly cost, but I believe it was around 2,500 - 5,000 for a high profile location.

[QUOTE=Luc214;15237183]I was curious, how is "illegal" downloading detected? All the horror stories I've read about people being fined for thousands seemed to be college students in dorms where the internet activity is pretty obviously being monitored.

And if the RIAA is so hot how come they haven't shut this site down because of the DUs? It's not like this site is hidden or anything.[/QUOTE]

I'm curious as well. Because supposedly they monitor my internet activity at work as well.

[QUOTE=Luc214;15237183]I was curious, how is "illegal" downloading detected? All the horror stories I've read about people being fined for thousands seemed to be college students in dorms where the internet activity is pretty obviously being monitored.

And if the RIAA is so hot how come they haven't shut this site down because of the DUs? It's not like this site is hidden or anything.[/QUOTE]
Jeremy has rules against it and the staff is responsible for enforcing the rules but if something slips through Jeremy is not responsible for the actions of users at his site. This is why we (mods) try to delete anything directly linked on the site.

I think he is talking about like how apartments and dorms are against it.

[QUOTE=stevo2112;15237215]I think he is talking about like how apartments and dorms are against it.[/QUOTE]

and jails.

What exactly do you do at the jail?

I was answering the second block of questions

The answer to the first is that the computer automatically keeps track of everywhere and most monitoring means they look at what websites you visit and make sure you aren't going to offlimit websites.

as for the RIAA there's tons of ways to do it. All they have to do is use the p2p stuff we use, search for a drm song and anyone sharing it is sueable, simple. they choose the ones sharing the most though because that=more money per hit.

Hmmm, so P2P is really the only thing that is trackable?

No, posting things on file servers is also trackable, either via the file name or links stating what it is, blogs with links, for instance. Just remember, if you can do it, so can people working for the RIAA.

AIM is one of the safer ways still because there's no network of peers to search, it's like getting a burned CD from a friend, which even the RIAA doesn't tend to pursue.

What about downloading.

I can't think of a way they could track downloading from a blog, or site.

As I said I'm just curious.

[QUOTE=Luc214;15237249]What about downloading.

I can't think of a way they could track downloading from a blog, or site.

As I said I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]

Downloading isn't illegal anyways, sharing is.

But that's why most any type of free music place bans leechers.

And the site tracks the IP downloading a file so it's not hard to trace at all. If it were illegal.

From the RIAA site:

"Examples of easy ways you could violate the law:
Somebody you don’t even know e-mails you a copy of a copyrighted song and then you turn around and e-mail copies to all of your friends.
You make an MP3 copy of a song because the CD you bought expressly permits you to do so. But then you put your MP3 copy on the Internet, using a file-sharing network, so that millions of other people can download it.
[b]Even if you don’t illegally offer recordings to others, you join a file-sharing network and download unauthorized copies of all the copyrighted music you want for free from the computers of other network members.[/b]
In order to gain access to copyrighted music on the computers of other network members, you pay a fee to join a file-sharing network that isn’t authorized to distribute or make copies of copyrighted music. Then you download unauthorized copies of all the music you want.
You transfer copyrighted music using an instant messenging service.
You have a computer with a CD burner, which you use to burn copies of music you have downloaded onto writable CDs for all of your friends."

Well ok, rather it's less illegal to take than to share, because sharing is expressly illegal, whereas if you download the burden of proving you don't have rights to the music you downloaded is placed on them.

For instance, it's entirely legal to download a copy of a CD you own as a backup afaik. So they have to prove you were downloading illegally which is more difficult than getting people who share thousands of files where there's no burden of proof.

Ah I see.

RIAA/Anti-Downloading Organizations should all go to hell. They should change their name to Anti-Music Organization.

/2cents

I agree.

Without "illegal" downloading I wouldn't like half the bands I like now. I'd still be listening to Hoobastank.

NP: P.J. Harvey - Dress

Pretty much. When I release my album I could give two shits less if anyone buys a hard copy.

One thing they don't realize is that for metal at least, probably the majority or a good portion of the audience only got into the band because they illegally downloaded.

And for all bands, I read something about how much the band actually gets per CD purchased, and they hardly get anything. The RIAA loses the money, not the artist. Besides there are some bands that I like but would never buy a CD from.

I wouldn't say that, but there's definitely a solid amount that got bigger because of downloading.

Yeah, if the day ever comes that I release anything, I would be happy just for people to hear it, not caring at all if I made money. I would consider offering hard copies, but not be upset if no one bought any.

all of my music is free!

hey i joined the Eliminator Jr. Fanclub.

where have you been jake

Doing the yayo and the x