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clown_phobia 10-10-2005 01:55 AM

I think they just put random bits of tape together. it sorta soudns like "never to be any other one" or something

blue3 10-10-2005 04:19 PM

I don't know if there's a backwards message.. but it's an awesome song.

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx 10-10-2005 06:53 PM

Well, I've missed a lot, but I'm trying to catch up.

First, Happy Birthday to John yesterday!

This weekend, this Beatles cover band called American English came around. They played at a festival, so I went to see them. They were awesome! They played three different sections. First, they wore the black suits and played some early stuff. Next, they changed into the Seargent Pepper suits and "George" even had the MMT awesome psychadelic Fender. Last they changed into Abbey Road outfits and played later stuff. They played 31 songs altogether. To get into the festival was only $10. "John" was amazingly cool. He even sounded like Lennon, I couldn't believe it at first. So, check them out if they come around your area. (They are from Chicago.)

I am a chick and I wear Beatles shirts. Around here, it's a lot less likely that you find a guy that likes the Beatles. Actually, it's hard to find anyone under the age of 50 that is a Beatles fan. :(

Math is cool.

magicbus 10-10-2005 07:06 PM

Wasn't somebody looking for a picture of George playing a jazz bass a long time ago? Because I found one.

MBS 10-10-2005 07:11 PM

I read that the weird part before Paul's part was actually a 42 piece orchestra playing every note they could on their instrument from lowest to highest. Of course, they all played the same notes, so they all entered and left at different times.

Edit: in A Day in the Life

Krabsworth 10-10-2005 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]Does anyone know if there's any backward message in that last little part of A Day in the Life? It's such a bizzarre little piece that you'd think there'd be something in there.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, I played it backwards in audacity, and it was the same thing!

Leper 10-10-2005 10:36 PM

[QUOTE=The Krabsman]I don't think so, I played it backwards in audacity, and it was the same thing![/QUOTE]

Seriously?? That's crazy..

Ulysses 10-10-2005 11:17 PM

[QUOTE=blue3]Happy birthday John. I'm listening to Jealous Guy :)[/QUOTE]

Roxy Music do a great cover of that track, seems to have a bit more punch in it but of course the downside is that it is not really personal and that aspect is lost in cover versions. John's depth and vulnerability is put into that song and the feelings evoked are so strong. I wish John Lennon a late happy birthday :cool:

Seafroggys 10-10-2005 11:19 PM

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]I read that the weird part before Paul's part was actually a 42 piece orchestra playing every note they could on their instrument from lowest to highest. Of course, they all played the same notes, so they all entered and left at different times.

Edit: in A Day in the Life[/QUOTE]

Yes I've known that for a good 5 years now :thumb:

blue3 10-10-2005 11:26 PM

[QUOTE=Ulysses]Roxy Music do a great cover of that track, seems to have a bit more punch in it but of course the downside is that it is not really personal and that aspect is lost in cover versions. John's depth and vulnerability is put into that song and the feelings evoked are so strong. I wish John Lennon a late happy birthday :cool:[/QUOTE]I'll have to listen to that cover..

ed3r 10-11-2005 12:27 AM

i used to think the beatles were just some lame pop band who played lame music.
a friend of mine sent me "while my guitar gently weeps". changed my perception, theres some very nice guitar playing there. good job beatles.
excuse me for being ignorant once.

Illmatic 10-11-2005 12:34 AM

What's wrong with the poppier stuff?

Seafroggys 10-11-2005 11:11 AM

Yeah I love their later stuff, but man I do go on some Please Please Me or Twist and Shout binges often.

superjoe 10-11-2005 11:29 AM

I finnaly got Revolver, its amazing...

El_Goodo 10-11-2005 05:04 PM

Has anyone heard the news about Yoko Ono "dissing" McCartney at the Q Awards, she said John used to wake up in the middle of the night feeling insecure that everyone was covering Paul's song, and worrying about his own Songwriting and Influence on other singers.

And Yoko would tell him that he was a great songwriter and that he didnt write June-spoon-moon songs like Paul (commenting on how simple Paul's songs were).

I dont see what's so shocking about that. I already knew John was insecure about that, as I read it in the anthology book.

And its true, John's songs were more complex than Paul's. Just look at I Am The Walrus, Across The Universe, compared to Yesterday and Hey Jude. John had more substance in his lyrics, but I dont think it really matters. I dislike when lyrics get to complex, and a strong melody is much more important than intellegent lyrics.

My point is, people are idiots, it's not very shocking because it's true. "Would you care to sit with me, for a cup of english tea, very twee, very me." "Words are flowing out like endless rain into a papercup, they slither wildly as they slip away across the universe"

Jacaranda 10-11-2005 05:09 PM

Yoko isn't my favorite person in the world... I can't stand how she sorta used John to try to have a singing career, which failed although I do like that dance song she made with Basement Jaxxx awhile back.

blue3 10-11-2005 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=Med57]I think it's terrible, but then again that pretty much sums up how I feel about Roxy Music.[/QUOTE]I just listened to Roxy Music's cover.. didn't like it much.

And yeah, Revovler is an amazing album.

DeusExMachina 10-11-2005 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]Has anyone heard the news about Yoko Ono "dissing" McCartney at the Q Awards, she said John used to wake up in the middle of the night feeling insecure that everyone was covering Paul's song, and worrying about his own Songwriting and Influence on other singers.

And Yoko would tell him that he was a great songwriter and that he didnt write June-spoon-moon songs like Paul (commenting on how simple Paul's songs were).

I dont see what's so shocking about that. I already knew John was insecure about that, as I read it in the anthology book.

And its true, John's songs were more complex than Paul's. Just look at I Am The Walrus, Across The Universe, compared to Yesterday and Hey Jude. John had more substance in his lyrics, but I dont think it really matters. I dislike when lyrics get to complex, and a strong melody is much more important than intellegent lyrics.

My point is, people are idiots, it's not very shocking because it's true. "Would you care to sit with me, for a cup of english tea, very twee, very me." "Words are flowing out like endless rain into a papercup, they slither wildly as they slip away across the universe"[/QUOTE]
"Well don't you know that it's a fool who plays it cool by making his world a little colder."
"Well I been Meat City to see for myself, been Meat City been Meat City, just got to give me some rock 'n roll."
Of those two excerpts, one is poetic. I'll give you a hint: it's not the one that John Lennon wrote.

As for complex songs. Yeah, Imagine, that's really complex. Paul McCartney was far more musically knowledgable, hands down. Only one of the two was able to successfully incorporate classical instrumentation into their songwriting. Hint: it wasn't Lennon.

As for good lyrics, you can look to songs like Golden Slumbers, Yesterday, Blackbird, and Eleanor Rigby.

You can say that McCartney only wrote poppy songs, but that's a real value judgment. I would say that his music is quite powerful, both lyrically and musically. And even if you do argue it's poppy, it's clear that people love the music.

Also, strong melodies. Personally, most of the best melodies were written by Paul. Something, She's Leaving Home, Golden Slumbers, Hey Jude, and more.

Also, John waking up at night and being worried about Paul being more popular? That shows real vanity on his part.

And how are people idiots? I didn't get the point of that.

MBS 10-11-2005 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Yes I've known that for a good 5 years now :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Way to bring a brother down. :(

robo2448 10-11-2005 05:33 PM

I think John was the more creative songwriter, and that inspired Paul to be more creative. John and Paul were very competitive and mimicked each other a lot. I think that Paul was inspired to write more creative songs later in the Beatles career because of John. They had an amazing partnership/ competition.

I think that in his solo career, from what I've heard, Paul got away from a lot of creative writing and wrote some simpler, poppy, love songs because he didn't have John to challenge him anymore. There's nothing wrong with simple love songs though, I don't think anybody could write simple love songs as well as Paul could. I think Illmatic said Paul had the best ear for melody a few days ago, and I think that Paul is the more melodic writer, while John is the more creative one.

El_Goodo 10-11-2005 05:58 PM

I totally agree Paul's melodies are freakin incredible (I Will, Hey Jude). But don't cout John out on melodies (Julia, Hide Your Love Away), and I also think John has a more emotional feel to his songs (Julia, Dear Prudence).

magicbus 10-11-2005 08:02 PM

I hate Yoko Ono.

robo2448 10-11-2005 08:12 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]I hate Yoko Ono.[/QUOTE]

Hehe. Me too. I don't believe that she broke up the Beatles, but she certainly didn't help them stay together longer. She made John happy, but she ruined a bunch of John's live performances that could have been awesome if she didn't sing.

El_Goodo 10-11-2005 08:35 PM

I hate yoko haters! Can't you people be happy for John! Love is all you need!

Jacaranda 10-11-2005 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]I hate yoko haters! Can't you people be happy for John! Love is all you need![/QUOTE]
Ya, but what about my needs? Screw what John wants I don't want Yoko.

Does anyone have the Macca album?

AMP 10-11-2005 08:44 PM

It's to say which one is better because both of them are equally qualified.
John has created masterpieces such as Strawberry Fields Forever, A Day in The Life, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, and Imagine. They show his creativeness and his songs almost put you in a dreamlike trance because they are beautifully written. His unmistakable voice also set the tone for his songs.
Paul, meanwhile, stays to the regular rock standard, creating songs such as Hey Jude, Sgt. Pepper..., Helter Skelter, etc.
Personally though, I've always developed a better liking toward John's songs because they are more melodious, more moving than Paul's "hard-hitting" songs.

El_Goodo 10-11-2005 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]Ya, but what about my needs? Screw what John wants I don't want Yoko.

Does anyone have the Macca album?[/QUOTE]

...Yoko should have took the bullet for John.

And I have the new McCartney album if thats the one your talking about. I reviewed it on Sputnik Music. It's an excellent CD!

Illmatic 10-11-2005 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]I hate yoko haters! Can't you people be happy for John! Love is all you need![/QUOTE]

It's hard to be happy for John when he, you know, ditched his wife and kid to be with Yoko. Helluva man, that John Lennon.

El_Goodo 10-11-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]It's hard to be happy for John when he, you know, ditched his wife and kid to be with Yoko. Helluva man, that John Lennon.[/QUOTE]

He sure is. Cynthia even said John wasnt here type at all. Not that it justify's that. And John wasnt really there for his wife and kid in the beginning anyway due to the beatles popularity. It's not John's fault he fell in love with Yoko. And he still remained friends with Cynthia, and he spent time with Sean.

I think it's good that John found his soul-mate and was more in love than most people ever will be. Cynthia was probably better off finding another man anyways.

Illmatic 10-11-2005 09:53 PM

Why then was Cynthia "devestated" (her own words) after John left?

El_Goodo 10-11-2005 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Why then was Cynthia "devestated" (her own words) after John left?[/QUOTE]

Of course she was devestated...although when she caught them in there bathrobes at her house the first thing she did was invite them to go out for dinner.

jimmybowles 10-11-2005 09:57 PM

I've been listening to the "Red and "Blue" best of albums lately.

BigTrav415 10-11-2005 10:39 PM

Here Comes The Sun (Doo Doo Doo Doo)



Sorry, I've been obsessing over that song lately. It's just so... mellow, and what a great guitar riff. I have to learn that.

blue3 10-11-2005 10:48 PM

It's a great song.. I lost my 'red' Beatles album.

Seafroggys 10-11-2005 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]...Yoko should have took the bullet for John.
[/QUOTE]

And you call yourself a Lennon fan.

You disgust me.

No one should ever.....EVER....wish that upon anybody. John Lennon sure as hell wouldn't have, and he spent over a decade preaching that! And 25 years later, the world still hasn't changed.

You are a disgrace to humanity. Neg rep.

Illmatic 10-11-2005 11:11 PM

I think he was kidding, Seafroggys.

Violent_Bill 10-11-2005 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=AMP]It's to say which one is better because both of them are equally qualified.
John has created masterpieces such as Strawberry Fields Forever, A Day in The Life, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, and Imagine. They show his creativeness and his songs almost put you in a dreamlike trance because they are beautifully written. His unmistakable voice also set the tone for his songs.
Paul, meanwhile, stays to the regular rock standard, creating songs such as Hey Jude, Sgt. Pepper..., Helter Skelter, etc.
Personally though, I've always developed a better liking toward John's songs because they are more melodious, more moving than Paul's "hard-hitting" songs.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that's neccesarily true, I find songs such as Let It Be and Eleanor Rigby very moving.

Illmatic 10-11-2005 11:39 PM

123...you'd be hard-pressed to convince me that Let It Be, Blackbird, Hey Jude, and Eleanor Rigby aren't moving songs.

Seafroggys 10-12-2005 12:44 AM

Let it Be live is a whole nother experience. Same with Maybe I'm Amazed.

Leper 10-12-2005 01:07 AM

IMO Eleanor Rigby is a masterpiece.

...Why has Jacaranda stolen my identity?


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