I thought Adam kept which pickups he uses a secret?

i know he uses seymour duncans i'm just not sure what kind

Why is it that Tool/Tool fans are resented by many on these boards?

[QUOTE=Kage]Let's not get too carried away here. This is all speculation and heresay. I hope they don't try too hard to be complex and have long songs, becuase that's just lame. If it just comes out, that's one thing, but to be all excited about it as if it's better to have long songs than short ones is stupid. I mean, I love long songs and Tool's longer songs (Lateralus, Third Eye, Reflection) are some of my all time favorites, but I just hope there wasn't the pre-concieved idea that it would be cool to write long songs, so let's do it.[/QUOTE]
I like long songs, like the mostly instrumental ones, i think theyre great because its stuff like that that you can just chill out to, ive been looking for stuff like that lately... cant really find anything....
But i also get what your saying, that they shouldnt try to force a way of writing because if they did they it might not flow as good.
well thats the way i see it atleast.

I heard Tool did a cover of Comfertably Numb, do any of you guys know if its any good?

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Never heard that.. but their cover of No Quarter is fuc[b][i][/b][/i]king amazing. I think it's a lot better than the original by Led Zeppelin.[/QUOTE]

Yea sombody said that to me about No Quarter by them, and I said there is no way its better then Zeppelin's, then they played it for me, I've never felt more owned in an argument.

[QUOTE]Yea sombody said that to me about No Quarter by them, and I said there is no way its better then Zeppelin's, then they played it for me, I've never felt more owned in an argument.[/QUOTE]

i have no fuking idea what you guys are talking about, i mean tool is a great band, but zeppelin is zeppelin, no one can ever play zeppelin like they ever could.

[QUOTE=True_Faith]i have no fuking idea what you guys are talking about, i mean tool is a great band, but zeppelin is zeppelin, no one can ever play zeppelin like they ever could.[/QUOTE]

Well Zeppelin is the better band for writing the song, but I don't know Tool's cover is VERY impressive. Its like the cover of Paranoid on the Randy Rhoads Tribute album. Its better then the original, but Black Sabbath is a better band because they wrote it.

I'd like to see the Led Zeppelin write something like Lateralus! :)

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Close this one, and link to any good/relevant posts.

I can see Joz's opinion about this being the swing vote, everyone else is probably going to be torn.[/QUOTE]

I heard my name.

Sup? :p

[QUOTE]I'd like to see the Led Zeppelin write something like Lateralus! [/QUOTE]

oh come on man, without zeppelin there wouldnt even be tool, besides in the 70's the equipment used to make lateralus wasnt even around....wtf?

It was a joke.. Believe me, I'm a big fan of Zep.. But if somebody is saying that Tool can't play a Zeppelin song as good as them because they wrote it, that's backwards. They may need a new guitarist, but they can play Zep songs as good or better than them, I'm sure of it..

[QUOTE=True_Faith]oh come on man, without zeppelin there wouldnt even be tool, besides in the 70's the equipment used to make lateralus wasnt even around....wtf?[/QUOTE]
Zeppelin didnt like MAKE rock music, so there could still be a Tool.
and yeah you do need to calm down :)

why are we comparing tool to zeppelin anyways? lets talk about tool since this is their thread

i heard someone say that justins basslines were goin to be little more complex. Man can't wait to hear how thats goin to be, just another reason to buy their album hopefully soon. and does anyone know where to find a Digitech Bass Whammy, if so i would be pretty happy.

Zeppelin Sucks
 

Led Zeppelin sucks, and they DID NOT create rock music. Screw that. The Who was before them, what about their credit, better yet Cream.

Tool owns Zeppelin

According to the australian kerrang, tool's new album might be released in autumn. Over here thats in the next 3 months. Somehow I think thats a little too good to be true but we'll see. The music is definitely heavier and influences include Mike Patton (Fantomas) and Dave Lombardo (slayer). Going to have less quirky time changes and more brute force but there are still going to be some quirky parts thrown in. Well thats what danny said basically. from the start of feb they had 10 new songs musically completed. Not sure about the lyrics.

[QUOTE=Radiohead235]Led Zeppelin sucks, and they DID NOT create rock music. Screw that. The Who was before them, what about their credit, better yet Cream.

Tool owns Zeppelin[/QUOTE]

that wasnt necessary

[QUOTE=TrainTakeMeHome]Why is it that Tool/Tool fans are resented by many on these boards?[/QUOTE]

In my opinion it is because its rare to get an 'average' Tool fan. People who are Tool fans are REALLY into Tool. Probably because they feel it is so much more than just music. Therefore you get lots of people going around defending and supporting Tool 100%. Lots of people get called Tool 'fanboys' who are the people who will not listen to someone criticise Tool. They will probably start ranting about how perfect Tool are and how nothing else was ever as good, and nothing else will ever be as good. However, I would say that these people are in the minority as people who listen and understand Tool are intelligent and mature enough to keep clear of the 'fanboy' culture. Although im sure we've all made the odd 'fanboy' posts before, sometimes i just cant help it. ;)

I recall Danny saying that the new album is heavier and less complex then Lateralus, so how can he also say that it's the most complex stuff he's played on? CONSPIRACY, that's what!

Tool hardcores, as Danny Carey is GOD (**** STRAIGHT) said, are in a state of illusion that because they are heavily into the spiritual aspects and everything they are automatically deemed top of the mountain. They're my favourite band, but I don't think I'm like that.

They don't understand that seeing mystical beings whilst on shrooms listening to Tool doesn't make them better people. Probably makes em more stupid.

I have now learnt to shed all previous inhibitions about the album, wait it out, and embrace the random. Opiate was immature and youthful, and it was awesome, so even IF they turn death/speed prog, it would still probably rock.

Jeezus, I'm looking forward to this album more then I was Halo2... can't be good (I hated Halo2). meh.

[QUOTE=Otherside]
This speculation is pointless, just wait for the album.
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[QUOTE=Werny]I recall Danny saying that the new album is heavier and less complex then Lateralus, so how can he also say that it's the most complex stuff he's played on? CONSPIRACY, that's what!

Tool hardcores, as Danny Carey is GOD (**** STRAIGHT) said, are in a state of illusion that because they are heavily into the spiritual aspects and everything they are automatically deemed top of the mountain. They're my favourite band, but I don't think I'm like that.

They don't understand that seeing mystical beings whilst on shrooms listening to Tool doesn't make them better people. Probably makes em more stupid.

I have now learnt to shed all previous inhibitions about the album, wait it out, and embrace the random. Opiate was immature and youthful, and it was awesome, so even IF they turn death/speed prog, it would still probably rock.

Jeezus, I'm looking forward to this album more then I was Halo2... can't be good (I hated Halo2). meh.[/QUOTE]


Danny's srumming will be even more tchnical, because he discovered a great influence in Tomas Haake (drummer for meshuggah)
I think they are just telling us all sorts of things to keep us in stress, and so that we don't have a clue what to exspect.

but we all know, Tool won't disappoint us ;)

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I'm gonna wait it out!

-the patient

listening to tool whilst on shrooms, peyote, or lsd will shatter the known.

i might not consider myself better than you, because i dont compare me to you.
but my soul has definately grown and my understanding of existence and non-existence has been penetrated beyond some of it's most vunerable holes.

i recommend tool with X. that is, to glimpse the unconditional love, life and death.

"dont knock it till you try it" you, yourself have to make the wager, and the next step to experience and then you may claim it as knowledge.

just a note,

there is a downloadable version of comfortably numb, which may be by tool...
i cant say for sure if it is.

*there is no prescence of danny on drums
*the vocals are not clear

do a search for it and listen for yourself. you might like it regardless...

[QUOTE=Otherside]123[/QUOTE]

Double 123.

Everyone stop coming in here talking about how this album is going to be heavier and more complex or less complex or whatever you've heard. We've all heard it as well, there's no point in re-hashing it over and over and trying to find the deeper meaning in Justin's more complex basslines. Jesus Christ, give it a rest.


EDIT: By all means this post is not meant to promote no discussion of the new album, but really we all know about the more complex basslines, heavier feel etc. People are making too many assumptions based on brief statements given by the band or a represenative. If you hear/read something about the new album, by all means share it here and feel free to discuss it, but enough jumping to conclusions already.

i would actually like to here more odd time tribal tendencies on the new album

Kage...wtf? that is basically what we are here for, to discuss what we want and what we think we'll get.

As for the fanboy thing, alot of tool fans are very arrogant about tool's music. And have very closed minds about what people should listen to, kind of ironic huh? But yeah that's why they are so resented.

And the new thread, I s'pose we should vote on it. Just link to this thread then when the search comes back people can trawl through for stuff like the quabla etc. Jsst need to decide on...

-A title
-Content
-Who gets first post

[QUOTE=clearvision]Kage...wtf? that is basically what we are here for, to discuss what we want and what we think we'll get.

As for the fanboy thing, alot of tool fans are very arrogant about tool's music. And have very closed minds about what people should listen to, kind of ironic huh? But yeah that's why they are so resented.

And the new thread, I s'pose we should vote on it. Just link to this thread then when the search comes back people can trawl through for stuff like the quabla etc. Jsst need to decide on...

-A title
-Content
-Who gets first post[/QUOTE]

Yes, but there is a difference between asking somebody why he/she does not like the band and flaming that person. If I recall correctly, you rep- me because I called the person into question.

My feeling is that if somebody flames a band, they should explain themselves.

he said it pretty well. i only flame people if they are just being assholes

I'm sorry but...

"Superpeer, I take it you aren't a prog rock fan and you aren't patient."

...Is a needless comment, people don't have to like tool. They are not the be all and end all of prog. That fully deserved neg rep because it was an ignorant post.