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Knuckleheadz 06-11-2006 10:00 PM

[QUOTE=kaseytheawesome]this was a few pages back but whatever

plants make their proteins through photosynthesis. since plant proteins are less complex than animal proteins, they have fewer amino acids. when you eat plants, your body cuts the protein chains into individual amino acids, then forms it's own proteins. your body needs every amino acid to form all the proteins you need to survive, so if you only eat plants, you become protein deficient, and unhealthy unless you take protein supplements.

I don't know what bs science route 1 said about it, but if he said that, he was right.[/QUOTE]
He just said you need certain amino acids, he didn't elaborate. Prepare for an arguement though.

kaseytheawesome 06-11-2006 10:03 PM

an arguement from who?

_Tyler 06-11-2006 10:06 PM

Can't you compensate for the deficiencies of one plant by eating a different plant that has the amino acids the other one lacks? I know you can't get all the essential aminos from eating just beans, but you can get them all from eating beans and rice can you not?

bottlerocket 06-11-2006 10:14 PM

Plants don't have certain amino acids...just like humans don't have certain proteins plants have. It's just their biochemical make up.

-Gav

kaseytheawesome 06-11-2006 10:17 PM

no, different plants have different amino acids, but there are some (I don't know if it's just a few or whatever) that are only found in animals. humans need all 20 amino acids to produce the proteins to survive. you can get all of the essential amino acids by eating a combination like that, but your body is not able to create enough of the non essential ones (which is ironic) to sustain a vegeterian diet without taking supplements.

eating most meats actually will provide you with all 20 amino acids, but that isn't to say you can sustain yourself on just meat.

40 oz 2 freedom 06-11-2006 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=kaseytheawesome]no, different plants have different amino acids, but there are some (I don't know if it's just a few or whatever) that are only found in animals. humans need all 20 amino acids to produce the proteins to survive. you can get all of the essential amino acids by eating a combination like that, but your body is not able to create enough of the non essential ones (which is ironic) to sustain a vegeterian diet without taking supplements.

eating most meats actually will provide you with all 20 amino acids, but that isn't to say you can sustain yourself on just meat.[/QUOTE]

Are you saying there is no other possible way to obtain all the necessary amino acids without eating meat? If not, your argument is pointless.

kaseytheawesome 06-11-2006 10:24 PM

you probably could, tyler

did you even read my post, pat? you can get all amino acids by taking supplements, you just can't be stupid about it.

_Tyler 06-11-2006 10:26 PM

oh s[size=2]h[/size]it.

Lazybassplr56 06-11-2006 10:57 PM

I had a Crunchwrap Supreme for dinner. It was wonderful.

Special Brew 06-11-2006 10:58 PM

I had one bad crunchwrap a couple of weeks ago, and now I can't stand them. Before then, I couldn't get enough of them and got one at every opportunity.

BuddyBigsby 06-11-2006 11:04 PM

The Crunchwrap is an art often not perfected by the lesser employees of the TB. It is indeed too good for fast food.

BuddyBigsby 06-11-2006 11:05 PM

Same with that new bowl at KFC. Oh man.

40 oz 2 freedom 06-11-2006 11:08 PM

[QUOTE=kaseytheawesome]you probably could, tyler

did you even read my post, pat? you can get all amino acids by taking supplements, you just can't be stupid about it.[/QUOTE]


haha, well I thought I read it a couple of times but I guess I skipped that last sentence.

Feel The Darkness 06-11-2006 11:28 PM

No one's ever died from a protein deficiency, and most people don't have to take supplements as items such as soy milk and other veg items already contain such stuff as to keep one healthy, but either way, that arguement does not make veganism pointless as route1 used to say, but yes, if one does not know the basics of nutrition and tries to run on a s[COLOR="White"]h[/COLOR]itty diet, you can and most probably will become ill. There's still no need to bring that up when talking about veganism as most, not even thinking about it, live a vegan lifestyle and have no problems by just being logical.

40 oz 2 freedom 06-11-2006 11:42 PM

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Dawgnuts/team2.jpg[/url]

CONNER_NWHC 06-11-2006 11:44 PM

hey niko, sup? wanna sleep over?

Knuckleheadz 06-11-2006 11:50 PM

[QUOTE=CONNER_NWHC]hey niko, sup? wanna sleep over?[/QUOTE]
Only if I get top bunk. And a beej from your hot a[FONT="Verdana"]s[/FONT]s sister.

CONNER_NWHC 06-11-2006 11:53 PM

Sure i suppose thats fine

BuddyBigsby 06-11-2006 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=Knuckleheadz]Only if I get top bunk. And a beej from your hot a[FONT="Verdana"]s[/FONT]s sister.[/QUOTE]

pics.

CONNER_NWHC 06-11-2006 11:54 PM

Not happening i dont want ur spic a$$ wankin to them scott

BuddyBigsby 06-11-2006 11:55 PM

Let me put some beef in her taco.

Knuckleheadz 06-11-2006 11:55 PM

Conner, get on AIM d00d. I have an idea.

CONNER_NWHC 06-11-2006 11:56 PM

dont have it on this comp man, get msn or give me a link to DL AIM



[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9706604&postcount=1[/url]

Knuckleheadz 06-11-2006 11:59 PM

[url]www.aim.com/get_aim/express[/url]

You aint even gotta download it.

CONNER_NWHC 06-12-2006 12:02 AM

You have successfully logged into Aim Express. However, we are unable to launch your Buddy List because you have Popup blocking enabled. Please disable the Popup blocker or add the [url]http://aimexpress.aim.com[/url] domain to the allowed white list.

Knuckleheadz 06-12-2006 12:03 AM

You suck.

RetiredAt21 06-12-2006 12:58 AM

You guys should check out mly Clancy Six thread.

Special Brew 06-12-2006 03:49 AM

What band is considered the "first" hardcore band, or creators of the genre?

TakeWarning 06-12-2006 05:44 AM

Black Fag.

whiteminority 06-12-2006 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=Damien Rhodes]What band is considered the "first" hardcore band, or creators of the genre?[/QUOTE]
Bad Brains

RetiredAt21 06-12-2006 02:45 PM

Norma Jean. ROFLOFOFOFOFOFL

Lazybassplr56 06-12-2006 04:08 PM

Hahaha, this never gets old.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgjiw1sACwc[/url]

Special Brew 06-12-2006 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=TakeWarning]Black Fag.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=whiteminority]Bad Brains[/QUOTE]
i knew it would be one of these two. bad brains is a little older than minor threat though.

whiteminority 06-12-2006 10:30 PM

Bad Brains is a few older than MT for sure they were around before the Teen Idles were even around.

chips88 06-12-2006 10:43 PM

I know this has probably been mentioned, so dont try and be a harda'ss and say we already said that dudeee, but the new Have Heart is so badass

Lazybassplr56 06-12-2006 10:48 PM

Oh yah it's been mentioned. The song rips.

Feel The Darkness 06-12-2006 10:53 PM

Joel, you coming for the Have Heart show here?

Iron Bug 06-13-2006 07:08 AM

When are they taking pre-orders for that?

Tjebby 06-13-2006 11:25 AM

First week of July. Well, thats what Chris from B9 said.

The Glamour 06-13-2006 11:59 AM

can anyone name some bands like Bane and comeback kid


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