[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]That would make sence, I think that when "I am the Walrus" came out before Abbey Road, if you played the bridge which just sounds like jibberish backwards on a turntable it says "Paul is Dead" I need to get a new belt for my turntable to try it out though :upset:[/QUOTE]

Yea there tons of clues in songs. There's a whole book about it. There was a good website about it but I don't remember it. Maybe someone in this thread does though. The Beatle Anthology mentioned it a bunch of times though. At the end of Revolution 9, it says "Turn me on dead man." I think it says "Paul is dead" in Strawberry Fields. There's something in I'm So Tired too. And then there's tons of stuff in Sgt. Pepper's particularly A Day in the Life, which I don't feel like getting into because I'm lazy.

The Book of John Paul George & Ringo (The Beatles)

I find the whole "Paul is Dead" thing extemely irritating

"Paul's dead!" is played out...I think it's been hashed over by anyone with a remote interest in the Beatles.

That being said, I actually prefer Paul's post-Beatles career to John's :eek:

I'm not all that crazy about Plastic Ono Band...other than "Working Class Hero" it ranges from boring to borderline unlistenable :-\

and speaking of Abbey Road (it was discussed a few posts ago...) for a thread name, what about "Here Comes the Thread" or "Maxwell's Silver Thread"? I dunno.

I've never heard anything from John's solo career except for "Imagine". The whole "having Yoko in the band name" thing turns me off.

There was discussion a couple pages back about birthdays. My birthday is on friday! I'm excited.

This thread has never been officialized. I think it's actually the largest thread in R&M that isn't linked in the official links thread. My understanding was only official threads got the fancy name make-over? Perhaps not. Althought it would be cool to get this thing (finally) linked in the links thread. That being said, if the name is going to be changed, my vote among the already listed possibilities goes to Magical Mystery Thread.

I don't actually have very much of John's solo stuff. But what I've heard is pretty good.

[QUOTE=BassMasterMike88]That would make sence, I think that when "I am the Walrus" came out before Abbey Road, if you played the bridge which just sounds like jibberish backwards on a turntable it says "Paul is Dead" I need to get a new belt for my turntable to try it out though :upset:[/QUOTE]

If you look at how the Abbey Road cover is set up, it's designed to resemble a funeral procession. The clothes they're wearing give this away. John's the priest or minister, Ringo is the paul bearer, Paul is the corpse (hence no shoes, and different foot forward from others) and George is the Undertaker. Oh, and to that other post, at the end of Strawberry Fields, if you listen closely, it sounds like "I buried Paul." That one's easier to find because it's not backwards or anything.

John's actually saying "Cranberry Sauce" at the end of Strawberry Fields Forever. But yea, people mistook it for "I Buried Paul".

[QUOTE=magicbus]John's actually saying "Cranberry Sauce" at the end of Strawberry Fields Forever. But yea, people mistook it for "I Buried Paul".[/QUOTE]

Ya I've heard that too, it sound so much more like I buried Paul though.

In the Making of Sgt. Pepper's book by George Martin, he talks about how he walked into the studio and there were a bunch of people just banging on drums and stuff (I think The Beatles and some friends), and then John started yelling "Cranberry sauce". This part can be heard on the end of Strawberry Fields forever after the fade out. The song and the random part weren't in the same time signature, and they wouldn't match up, that's why they did the fade out in between.

/Strawberry Fields info

I have a version of the song from Anthology 2 where you can hear it much better. I can send you guys it if you want.

My favorites in order:
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Thread
Happieness is a Warm Thread
Magical Mystery Thread

[QUOTE=magicbus]I've never heard anything from John's solo career except for "Imagine". The whole "having Yoko in the band name" thing turns me off.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry, Yoko only does her "singing" (read unlistenable wailing) on Lennon's last 2 albums and in live performances. All she does on POB is write the song Do the Oz and on Imagine she cowrites Oh My Love. So yea, she doesn't really have much of a role in either album.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]"Paul's dead!" is played out...I think it's been hashed over by anyone with a remote interest in the Beatles.

That being said, I actually prefer Paul's post-Beatles career to John's :eek:

I'm not all that crazy about Plastic Ono Band...other than "Working Class Hero" it ranges from boring to borderline unlistenable :-\

and speaking of Abbey Road (it was discussed a few posts ago...) for a thread name, what about "Here Comes the Thread" or "Maxwell's Silver Thread"? I dunno.[/QUOTE]
John's post-Beatles stuff is more artsy while Paul's is more pop/rock.

George > All other solo.

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]George > All other solo.[/QUOTE]
I would say: John> George> Paul> Ringo. That's basically how I see their songs in the Beatles too. I found John and George's songs to be interesting but Paul seemed to write a lot of bland love songs.

I don't think once we covered Ringo's solo career.

So here's my two discussion points. I think It DOn't Come Easy is a great song, and is probably Ringo's best song of all time, both from a writer's standpoint and as a singer's standpoint. His singing in that is actually quite great. I love his voice anyway, but as for technicality and power this song puts it over the edge.

THe other one is has anybody seen the RIngo All Starrs! I have, in '01. They had Sheila E and Greg Lake, as well as a bunch of people I didn't know. I'd much rather gone to the one in '97 when they had Jack Bruce and Peter Frampton, but I wasn't into music back then which is why I didn't go with my parents.

But didn't he do It Don't Come Easy with John?

[QUOTE]That's basically how I see their songs in the Beatles too. I found John and George's songs to be interesting but Paul seemed to write a lot of bland love songs.[/QUOTE]

I love Paul's work with the Beatles...out of all the Beatles, he had the best ear for a hook.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I love Paul's work with the Beatles...out of all the Beatles, he had the best ear for a hook.[/QUOTE]

Paul was the master of pop hooks. There's no doubting that. But in The Beatles, I feel that his competition with John forced him to be more creative and come up with more unique and creative song structures. Once he left the Beatles, he relied on "standard fun pop songs" way too much. That's just my opinion.

For me: George = John > Paul > Ringo

I suppose...I still find it more listenable than Lennon's solo material, though.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I suppose...I still find it more listenable than Lennon's solo material, though.[/QUOTE]

Lennon's solo material probably isn't that easy for some people to listen to. I've always loved it, but most people here who have heard it either love it or hate it. I listened to Lennon's Acoustic album today in school. What a great album. Lennon is good on acoustic.

I really havent heard any Ringo solo stuff, acctually I heard one song and it was pretty good. I read on his new CD that Eric Clapton and David Gilmour play on it. So for me it might go.

George>Paul>John>Ringo???

[QUOTE=Livewired]I really havent heard any Ringo solo stuff, acctually I heard one song and it was pretty good. I read on his new CD that Eric Clapton and David Gilmour play on it. So for me it might go.

George>Paul>John>Ringo???[/QUOTE]

I heard Robert Randolph played on it too. That makes me want to check it out.

Hmm, interesting.

[QUOTE]Yea there tons of clues in songs. There's a whole book about it. There was a good website about it but I don't remember it. Maybe someone in this thread does though. The Beatle Anthology mentioned it a bunch of times though. At the end of Revolution 9, it says "Turn me on dead man." I think it says "Paul is dead" in Strawberry Fields. There's something in I'm So Tired too. And then there's tons of stuff in Sgt. Pepper's particularly A Day in the Life, which I don't feel like getting into because I'm lazy.[/QUOTE]

Revolution 9 - Play the "number 9"'s backwards, "Turn me on Deadman"

Strawberry Fields - At the end, either "I buried Paul" or "Cranberry Sauce". Lennon egged on everyone and stood behind both of them in numerous interviews. (meaning he always said it was one or the other)

I'm So Tired - The gibberish at the end, play it backwards "Paul is a dead man, miss him , miss him, miss him"

A Day in the Life - The song is interpreted to be about the day that Paul supposably "died". He "blew his mind out in a car".

What does "he blew his mind out in a car" mean? Did he shoot himself in his car or something?

[QUOTE=Illmatic]What does "he blew his mind out in a car" mean? Did he shoot himself in his car or something?[/QUOTE]

The people who believed Paul died believed he died in a car crash, so John Lennon wrote that part so more people would buy into the hoax.

Ohhh, I see.

Actually, I read that it was about a guy (I'm pretty sure it was a popular politician) who was high in his car and got caught by the media or something. Kinda like he "blew his mind out" with drugs. If I remember correctly, this was also from that Making of Sgt. Peppers book.

On the other hand, my rockology teacher claims it was about their friend who was the heir to Guinness beer who got in a car accident and died. I don't really believe him on this one though.

[QUOTE=magicbus]Actually, I read that it was about a guy (I'm pretty sure it was a popular politician) who was high in his car and got caught by the media or something. Kinda like he "blew his mind out" with drugs. If I remember correctly, this was also from that Making of Sgt. Peppers book.

On the other hand, my rockology teacher claims it was about their friend who was the heir to Guinness beer who got in a car accident and died. I don't really believe him on this one though.[/QUOTE]

Tim Leary maybe? Not sure.

John said that he wrote it after just reading the newspaper headlines, but it also applies to the "Paul is dead" hoax.

[QUOTE=robo2448]Tim Leary maybe? Not sure.

John said that he wrote it after just reading the newspaper headlines, but it also applies to the "Paul is dead" hoax.[/QUOTE]

Yea, he read about the guy in the paper, so that makes sense.

Im pretty sure "he blew his mind out in a car," refers to a man who was in a car accident. I dont know if he was the heir to guiness beer. But it's definetley not about the "Paul is dead" hoax, and they didnt find out about the rumors until Abbey Road. So they couldnt have made all those hints on purpose. Or at least it says they found out about it around Abbey Road in their Anthology.

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]Im pretty sure "he blew his mind out in a car," refers to a man who was in a car accident. I dont know if he was the heir to guiness beer. But it's definetley not about the "Paul is dead" hoax, and they didnt find out about the rumors until Abbey Road. So they couldnt have made all those hints on purpose. Or at least it says they found out about it around Abbey Road in their Anthology.[/QUOTE]

I think they found out about it around The White Album. I'm not sure though, I haven't read the Anthology in a while and can't remember every little fact from it, since it's so detailed and long ;)

It's a great read though :thumb:

[QUOTE]I think they found out about it around The White Album. I'm not sure though, I haven't read the Anthology in a while and can't remember every little fact from it, since it's so detailed and long [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]In 1969 Russell Gibb, a radio Disc Jockey in Detroit, announced that Paul McCartney was dead. His proof: evidence strewn throughout the Beatles' songs, movies, and album artwork. Newspaper and television reporters picked up the story and the news quickly spread across America.[/QUOTE]

1969 was when America was informed about it.

A Day in the Life was written about a friend of the Stones/Beatles who got killed in an accident.

Or was this established already?

[url]http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2003/01/27/album-covers.html[/url]

^^ this cant be serious!!!!

[QUOTE=clown_phobia][url]http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2003/01/27/album-covers.html[/url]

^^ this cant be serious!!!![/QUOTE]

WTF :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

That cover's like the Holy Grail. How could they touch that :angry: :angry:

It was perfect. I'm glad I already own it.

That article is from 2003...and I've never seen the cover like that..but anyways, yes they found out in 1969 after they recorded Abbey Road.

The article was a joke- [url]http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/information/complaining.html[/url]

:lol: That's a relief.

Replacing the Sex Pistols with Celine Dion? It was pretty obviously a fake.

I am almost positive it's about the Guinness heir, who's name was Tara Browne.