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Tim 03-25-2006 12:51 PM

[QUOTE=lilphilw]ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.[/QUOTE]

youll grow out of it. lawl. then get back into it.

HeLLmO 03-25-2006 05:47 PM

[QUOTE=lilphilw]ok thanks a lot. I only want a zildjian crash because the rest of my set is zildjan.[/QUOTE]


brand whoring will only limit the sounds u can get out of ur set. i.e, say u like the Paiste Flanger Bell, but ur a zildjian brand whore, so u don't buy the bell, and u miss out. i would definatly go for the PST5

Drum Phil 03-25-2006 05:51 PM

Ah Mega cup chimes are awesome.

Now for my turn.

Paiste Rude 17" Thin crash(£109) Vs. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash.

Either way both of these cymbals will end up on my setup. Which first?

Im thinkin the Rude as i dont need the FX crash just yet. I could do with beefing up my main crashes.

HeLLmO 03-25-2006 06:23 PM

yea, if u don't need FX imediatly i would go for the rude, even though the 20'' crash of doom would be nice to have

spirit 03-25-2006 06:34 PM

Personally Phil, I'd just hit that Crash of Doom, but that's the way my taste is running right now, so don't ask me. :lol:

EDIT: Going by the Zildjian site, it doesn't even sound that trashy.

straycat101 03-25-2006 11:21 PM

Alright, i got some money, i'm wondering if i should get either A: a new (probably A/A Custom) crash. or a B: Wuhan splash pack or splash/china pack im not sure if i should get effects, but i dont see the problem really. what do you guys think?

FockerTheLopper 03-25-2006 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]Ah Mega cup chimes are awesome.

Now for my turn.

Paiste Rude 17" Thin crash(£109) Vs. Zildjian 20" Oriental Crash.

Either way both of these cymbals will end up on my setup. Which first?

Im thinkin the Rude as i dont need the FX crash just yet. I could do with beefing up my main crashes.[/QUOTE]
Well I remember seeing your set and seeing a couple of low level cymbals, I suggest replacing them with the crashes you get. Ge tthe Oriental crash, it can never do you wrong.

steve_o_69 03-26-2006 04:53 AM

i would would like to get a chine preferable 18" to 20" with a pure roar and powerfull sound

Tim 03-26-2006 04:59 AM

ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.

Drum Phil 03-26-2006 05:35 AM

[quote=steve_o_69]i would would like to get a chine preferable 18" to 20" with a pure roar and powerfull sound[/quote]

Ufip Tigar china

CasB 03-26-2006 05:47 AM

Wuhan or Stagg china :)

Drum Phil 03-26-2006 05:49 AM

I reckon ima go rude baby :cool:

Cocaberry 03-26-2006 06:30 AM

[QUOTE=Tim]ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.[/QUOTE]

Stage Ride!!!!!

That AA Raw bell dry ride would be better though if you want more ping.

HeLLmO 03-26-2006 09:14 AM

[QUOTE=straycat101]Alright, i got some money, i'm wondering if i should get either A: a new (probably A/A Custom) crash. or a B: Wuhan splash pack or splash/china pack im not sure if i should get effects, but i dont see the problem really. what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]


well i depends, if u have no crash, then i would suggest getting one, or if u have a low end crash, maybe replace it. if u have 1 or 2 good crashes, and feel that is enough, i would go with the effects, because effects are nice. but in my eyes, one should make sure they have good ride/hats/crash before looking into effects

We_Love_Lime 03-26-2006 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]I reckon ima go rude baby :cool:[/QUOTE]

You dissapoint me, 17 Rude Crash as apposed to 20 Oriental Crash......;(

HeLLmO 03-26-2006 10:27 AM

i think he said he's gonna end up with both

We_Love_Lime 03-26-2006 10:27 AM

Tight.alrght I see it now, at the top; of the page, thanks Hellmo

straycat101 03-26-2006 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=HeLLmO]well i depends, if u have no crash, then i would suggest getting one, or if u have a low end crash, maybe replace it. if u have 1 or 2 good crashes, and feel that is enough, i would go with the effects, because effects are nice. but in my eyes, one should make sure they have good ride/hats/crash before looking into effects[/QUOTE]


well i have a nice ride, a nice crash and a lowend crash/hi-hat. but hats are too expensive for me right now

Drum Phil 03-26-2006 12:35 PM

[quote=We_Love_Lime]You dissapoint me, 17 Rude Crash as apposed to 20 Oriental Crash......;([/quote]

It makes sense to get the cheaper one first

full collapse 03-26-2006 06:01 PM

[QUOTE=Tim]ok i need some help on this one. I need a ride cymbal and I need something good for live setting in miced and unmiced settings. Progressive/experimental band. Im thinking of getting something thats medium or medium heavy. nothing really above that medium heavy range. Im thinkin the AA raw bell dry ride. Would that be good in a miced and unmiced situation as well? Its medium heavy in weight. Im open to other suggestions too. Preferrably Sabian because they are the cheapest here but will also look into zildjian too. Not paiste...too bloody damn expensive here. ITs a scam i tell ya.[/QUOTE]

21" AA Dry Ride

It's an awesome ride.

Corkofski 03-28-2006 10:00 AM

hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound

Tim 03-28-2006 10:03 AM

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound[/QUOTE]

old cymbals sound great. as do most cymbals with age. any idea how old they are?

Seafroggys 03-28-2006 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound[/QUOTE]

*jizzes*

okay, now thats over with

If its older, its better. If its New Beats, its the best.

So you got something thats better then best! Then again, they're only 13" :(

Corkofski 03-28-2006 02:36 PM

no idea on the age

i havent heard them yet, but i absolutely love the sound of these 15" 70s vintage zildjians (no idea on series) that i play on at my percussion ensemble

i really want them, but they are owned by the east sussex music service, which is owned by the council, and if youve ever tried getting anything off the council...

Ethan. 03-28-2006 08:26 PM

[QUOTE]Will someone please tell me the sound characterisics of a wuhan traditional ride[/QUOTE]
It's been a week and nobody's answered my question. Do you guys hate me or something?

We_Love_Lime 03-28-2006 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=Drum Phil]It makes sense to get the cheaper one first[/QUOTE]

I guess.. I wouldn't know.

Cocaberry 03-28-2006 08:38 PM

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]It's been a week and nobody's answered my question. Do you guys hate me or something?[/QUOTE]

If nobody has answered then nobody knows the answer to your question. If it's hand hammered it's probably going to be dark. Thats all I know. You should probably go try it out yourself.

styler 03-29-2006 12:23 AM

do some research if it matters that much.

DruMMeR_BoY14 03-29-2006 05:20 AM

[QUOTE=Corkofski]hmm

i might be able to get some old 13" new beats off my drum teacher.

anyone got any idea what theyd sound like

asking cos if the "old" maybe affecting the sound[/QUOTE]

Tight, atriculate chick. Wash will be a bit higher pitched than a 14" model but you'll still be able to get some very nice sounds outta them, they just may not be suited to grunge-styled music as well a larger hat would be. I kinda wish I got them instead of the 14's.

Older the cymbal = better the sound, so dont worry about it affecting them in any negitive way (provided they arent cracked, keyholed etc...)

Ethan. 03-29-2006 05:44 PM

[QUOTE]If nobody has answered then nobody knows the answer to your question.[/QUOTE]
Well it just seems like some people would know... There are so many Wuhan recomendations on this forum.


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