That's kind of my point. People make such a huge deal about a band signing to a major, when those people themselves (a generalization though this may be) take no real measures to avoid corporate allegiance or no real steps towards true "independence". You can't draw such a hypocritical line and vehemently accuse a band of "selling out", but then not apply those same ethics to the very life you lead, which is exactly what so many naysayers are doing.

(The "you's" in that paragraph are [i]not[/i] referring to anyone in particular, so don't no one get all pissy).

I see your point, but I just don't think that people should stop the hating on major labels just because there are even worse companys out there.

Of course, as long as our society runs like it does today, there are alot of (evil) corporations that we are kind of forced to support eg. gasoline. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't avoid supporting them when we get the chance.
Personally I don't shop too much in the huge supermarkets (which I'm assuming that Wal-mart is, never been there), and I try not to buy products from coca-cola mcdonalds and stuff like that.
I'm still a consumer and I definitely support bad things, but I try my best to keep it low.

I have a forum for AM! fans, so join if you want :)

[url]http://againstmeforum.com/[/url]

I'm seeing them in april supporting Dropkick Murphys. yay!

They're touring withe the Foo Fighters AND Serj Tankian now?

I'm even more disappointed now.

im seeing them in two weeks, (not with foo or serj). they are playing regular shows in between the huge venues.

also, im "art" for against me is posted on there website =)

I saw that someone uploaded Tom's first demo over the summer, but the file's expired. Can anyone re-upload that for me?

I can do that when I sit at the right computer. Just remind me again if I forget it.

I have a 1st Pressing of RAR on the way to my house at this very moment :cool:

That is amazing. You must have paid like 100. for that, haha. I can only imagine that it's only going to get more valuable.

does anyone know what cymbals warren uses, i know he uses gretch drums.

Zildjian cymbals. That was me who posted the demo tape in the summer, I can do it again if Henrik forgets. And I'd kill for a first pressing RAR!

Anyone see the newest AP? I bought it because Against Me! is on the cover and there's an awesome interview with them. First time I've heard Tom talk about the Tallahassee thing other than that video on Google.

Yeah, I saw that magazine last Saturday when I was at the store. I wasn't that interested, ha.

Against Me! at Bonnaroo. Right along side of Metallica, Led Zeppelin, Pearl Jam, and Willie Nelson.

The only one of those that excites me are Willie Nelson.




Am I healthy?

[QUOTE=Cliche;15947261]Zildjian cymbals. That was me who posted the demo tape in the summer, I can do it again if Henrik forgets. And I'd kill for a first pressing RAR!

Anyone see the newest AP? I bought it because Against Me! is on the cover and there's an awesome interview with them. First time I've heard Tom talk about the Tallahassee thing other than that video on Google.[/QUOTE]

What did he say, and what else did they talk about?

[QUOTE=Henrik;15952340]What did he say, and what else did they talk about?[/QUOTE]

He said that no one got their head smashed into a counter, all that happened was that a drink got knocked over. And then he went on to make a joke about how they were pissed off at him, meanwhile they're a bunch of anarchists who "ran to the cops at the first sign of trouble"

They also talked about how Andrew said he was going to beat the **** out of the guy who said he got his head smashed at the coffee shop. I don't know about you, but I would not want to **** with Andrew.

They mention some stories about how they all met each other, and how they all wound up in Gainesville and such. Line up changes and having to record RAR a full second time. There's also an interview with Matt Flood (of BtMI!'s Asbestos Records) about his extensive Against Me! vinyl collection.

Sounds nice. Is the interview available anywhere on the internet?

[QUOTE=Henrik;15955078]Sounds nice. Is the interview available anywhere on the internet?[/QUOTE]

Not that I know of. If you don't get Alternative Press over there, I can always just scan some pages for you.

Yeah, Cliche, do you think you could upload it?

Thanks, man.

I don't have a scanner at home, but I do at work, which I'm going to in about 30 minutes. So I can post it later tonight for you guys.

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That's all of them!

Oh, I was actually referring to Tom's first demo.

But thanks a lot for the magazine as well!

[QUOTE=fuzzurin;15958058]Oh, I was actually referring to Tom's first demo.

But thanks a lot for the magazine as well![/QUOTE]

Oh, well how about that. I'll upload it now.

edit:

Tom's first demo tape.

[url]http://www.sendspace.com/file/t4p2qj[/url]

While people are uploading stuff, does anyone have a version of Live at CORE where it doesn't cut to the studio version of We Did It All For Don? That annoys me.

I don't think it exists. But if it does, I want it pretty badly.

[QUOTE=Scuba_Steve;15947637]The only one of those that excites me are Willie Nelson.




Am I healthy?[/QUOTE]

I saw Willie Nelson a few autumns ago. It was great.

[QUOTE=Cliche;15959088]I don't think it exists. But if it does, I want it pretty badly.[/QUOTE]

Seconded. I bet the dude taping it just ran out of tape. And was the only person there taping it.

and

ITT: I wear the same shoes as Tom Gabel, evidently.
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Oh well. Also, Tom should leave the facial hair to Warren and Andrew.

im in a hardcore punk band but after everyshow we always play sink florida sink! just cause everybody knows it and its fun to sing along to