[QUOTE=Flynn][B]''Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict''[/B][/QUOTE]

That is a great song, very weird, but cool.

Cool avatar too.

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]I think they are Art Rock.[/QUOTE]

Art rock is just another word for progressive rock, really...

Sub genres are good for when your trying to be as specific when talking about a band as possible for like when you want to get techencal, but when it comes down to it, rock is rock. Does it really matter if Pink Floyd was Prog rock, art rock, or any other thing they could be classified as? Does it change their sound if we lable them a certain way?

pigonthewing, your right, but let the conversation go - its really all this threads holding on by :)

And art rock isnt a 'true' genre...but gives prog rock a nice definition, especially for floyd. Then again, almost all music is a form of art - an expression of emotion

Progressive rock is very hard to define though, because it must move, or progress, through diffrent movements. Look at Yes, they are no doubt prog masters, yet they had songs that might not fall under the category of prog, but since they had many others that were progressive, it was still prog rock. I think art rock is more used for prog-style music, that doesn't quite follow or progress like most prog. That's just me though.

[QUOTE=Distant Echoes]pigonthewing, your right, but let the conversation go - its really all this threads holding on by :)

And art rock isnt a 'true' genre...but gives prog rock a nice definition, especially for floyd. Then again, almost all music is a form of art - an expression of emotion[/QUOTE]

Yeah thats a good point, since thats the case I'll throw my two cents in.

I think that art rock is defenetly a sub genre of rock, and many Pink Floyd songs are examples of why its a sub genre. A lot of what Pink Floyd does is art for the sake of art, whitch is what my defenition is of art rock. Examples of this are Careful With That Axe Eugene, a lot of the stuff Syd did, and the more "out there" parts of the Wall.

Other art rock bands are bands like the Beatles because of things like Revolution 9, or Jimi Hendrix because of the Star Spangled Banner (pure art in my opinion)

Talking about art rock yet no mention of King Crimson. I don't know much about them, but I think they like invented art/prog rock.

[b]Progressive Metal[/b]

You may have heard of this as “Intelligent Music For Intelligent People”. Whether you agree of disagree, most prog metal is made by intelligent people, although it’s fanbase may vary in IQ.

This genre is probably the most often falsely attributed genre. However, it is also very difficult to define “prog”. Basically, the rule-of-thumb is that the music progresses. Riffs are generally used a few times, then discarded, in favour of another melody (except for when a main riff is brought back to keep the song cohesive). Drumming tends to be extremely varied and technical, and the music is played at varying tempos and time signatures. This genre features more keyboard and synth then any other Metal genre. Strange instruments also make appearances here. The vocals span a wide range of styles, however the lyrics almost always tell some kind of story, often being expanded into a concept album. Songs are also invariably around 8 mins and over, and feature several solos by every band member. Technicality of musicianship is a hallmark, but not exclusive to this genre.

[u]Please note[/u]: A concept album does not a prog band make.

Sort similar to Rock. I'm writing the proper definition for prog rock right now, actually.

Riva, if you got a message from me on msn before i left DONT CLICK IT. Its a virus, and now my msn is bust. Sorry for the spam.

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]Riva, if you got a message from me on msn before i left DONT CLICK IT. Its a virus, and now my msn is bust. Sorry for the spam.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha... I just caught a nasty virus from it. Haha, well, at least I can rejoice in having caught it. Just close any background programs, then make sure you delete run.exe found in the System32 folder in Windows.

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva][b]Progressive Metal[/b]

You may have heard of this as “Intelligent Music For Intelligent People”. Whether you agree of disagree, most prog metal is made by intelligent people, although it’s fanbase may vary in IQ.

This genre is probably the most often falsely attributed genre. However, it is also very difficult to define “prog”. Basically, the rule-of-thumb is that the music progresses. Riffs are generally used a few times, then discarded, in favour of another melody (except for when a main riff is brought back to keep the song cohesive). Drumming tends to be extremely varied and technical, and the music is played at varying tempos and time signatures. This genre features more keyboard and synth then any other Metal genre. Strange instruments also make appearances here. The vocals span a wide range of styles, however the lyrics almost always tell some kind of story, often being expanded into a concept album. Songs are also invariably around 8 mins and over, and feature several solos by every band member. Technicality of musicianship is a hallmark, but not exclusive to this genre.

[u]Please note[/u]: A concept album does not a prog band make.

Sort similar to Rock. [U] [I][B]I'm writing the proper definition for prog rock right now, actually.[/QUOTE][/B][/I][/U]




Since you put it that way...every Band I listen to is Progressive. :confused:

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Hahaha... I just caught a nasty virus from it. Haha, well, at least I can rejoice in having caught it. Just close any background programs, then make sure you delete run.exe found in the System32 folder in Windows.[/QUOTE]

I did too, had to system restore. :(

Oh well, i hope the interview was alright.

Progressive music can differ greatly. I think of it as people pushing the boundaries of music. Many prog bands dont sound the same, but are the same in the fact that they push the boundaries of music.

I just bought "Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live: 1980 - 1981"
I love it :D

[QUOTE=Gilmour]Progressive music can differ greatly. I think of it as people pushing the boundaries of music. Many prog bands dont sound the same, but are the same in the fact that they push the boundaries of music.

I just bought "Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live: 1980 - 1981"
I love it :D[/QUOTE]

I love the "Last Few Bricks" jam at the end, thought for a Floyd live album I expected more jamming, but when they did it live it was more of a stage production then anything.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Go out and buy the CD.[/QUOTE]

I did, I had literally NEVER heard one of their songs and had no idea what they sounded like, so I typed Pink Floyd in the box and the first song that came up was Dark Side of the Moon, aka Brain Damage. I wasn't going to buy a CD forma band I literally knew nothing about.

BTW, if you go back two pages, you'll see I have bought it along with WYWH, The Wall, and Animals.

What do you guys think of Mother off of In The Flesh Live? I thought it was an interesting take on the song.

[QUOTE=Flynn][/B][/I][/U]




Since you put it that way...every Band I listen to is Progressive. :confused:[/QUOTE]

List the bands you listen to, and I'll see what errors are in my writing.

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]What do you guys think of Mother off of In The Flesh Live? I thought it was an interesting take on the song.[/QUOTE]

Ill have to check that out when I get home. I think he does a good job with Welcome to the Machine on that album.

For the whole not calling floyd prog thing, the reason I said they werent is because Ive always thought that they were a genre in thier own. Also their style varied, for instance the meddle album was mainly very bluesy but still had that awesome song echoes. That is an example of variation on the one album.

[QUOTE=Gilmour]Ill have to check that out when I get home. I think he does a good job with Welcome to the Machine on that album.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I like a lot of the takes the guitarist does on the songs on the album. I always felt the sign of a good guitarist was not only to write good songs, but how they improv on others.

And again as for the whole "what genre is Floyd" don't try to find one, because at some point or another they have preformed almost every genre, to lable them a certian genre is like calling the Beatles a pop band.

waters lyrics were eccelent but gilmours voice is much better

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Yeah I like a lot of the takes the guitarist does on the songs on the album. I always felt the sign of a good guitarist was not only to write good songs, but how they improv on others.

And again as for the whole "what genre is Floyd" don't try to find one, because at some point or another they have preformed almost every genre, to lable them a certian genre is like calling the Beatles a pop band.[/QUOTE]

Well the guitarist really doesnt do much for me. What I really liked about soem of the stuff he did was adding in the back up singers. They give "Welcome to the Machine" a whole different feel.

[QUOTE=Gilmour]Well the guitarist really doesnt do much for me. What I really liked about soem of the stuff he did was adding in the back up singers. They give "Welcome to the Machine" a whole different feel.[/QUOTE]

Well I feel that he did a good enough job at recapturing Gilmour's sound, with out sounding like a Gilmour imitation. I do miss Gilmour don't get me wrong, Comfortably Numb off Pulse is a god compared to Comfortably Numb on In The Flesh. I would have been really dissopointed with the album if it had been just like the stuido, or just like another live album from Pink Floyd.

Live albums is how i judge my bands...Rush wouldve easily been my favorite band if there concerts werent the same as there studio, but I really need to get Pulse. I hear nothing but good about it...though I might get Ummagumma next.

How do you pronounce Ummagumma anyway? I feel embarressed saying it all the time...

[QUOTE=Distant Echoes]Live albums is how i judge my bands...Rush wouldve easily been my favorite band if there concerts werent the same as there studio, but I really need to get Pulse. I hear nothing but good about it...though I might get Ummagumma next.

How do you pronounce Ummagumma anyway? I feel embarressed saying it all the time...[/QUOTE]

ooo ma goo ma :thumb:

And yes thats how I judge bands too, usually I just find a good live album and hardly ever listen to the stuido of the song son the live album ever again. I can't remember the last time I listend to Dark Side of the Moon or the Wall, in its studio recording, its always been Pulse and Is There Anybody Out There

Thanks Pig...you da man :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

I just played DSOTM about an hour ago...but just the hard songs. I was thinking of gettin an SG with the money i got, but i can live with my guitar and its terrible feedback when attempting gilmours tone. My Compressor pedal alone is worth more then my guitar. Disgust.

Yeah, i might buy ummagumma offline. Are their any sites similar to amazon, but will let me use paypal? I cant withdraw money from there for a month :upset:

Yea that's how you pronounce it, and I highly recommend getting the album.

I was having a listen to pulse. Has anyone noticed the similarities between Gilmours and Waters voices.

[QUOTE=rippa32]I was having a listen to pulse. Has anyone noticed the similarities between Gilmours and Waters voices.[/QUOTE]

I used to think they were pretty similar too back in the day, but now I can easily tell the difference.


Also some DSotM songs that Roger sang on, also had David singing the harmony(which may confuse some people when matching the voice to the person).

Actually I was listening to those songs to try tell the difference so there you go, that was my problem. I suppose I would definatly notice if Gilmour sang San Tropez or something.

Yeah I really missed Gilmour's vocals on Wish You Were Here on In The Flesh

I think they sound very similiar on the Wall as well. I can usually tell who it is but they sound alike. No complaining though because both Roger and David have good voices. (IMO) THey fit the songs well.

Rogers usually has a few different "voices" he can do. Gilmour has a more constant singing voice. Sometime's Rogers has like a desperate sounding yell, sometimes more of a talk/whisper, or sometimes just his 'normal' singing voice.

[QUOTE=Gilmour]I used to think they were pretty similar too back in the day, but now I can easily tell the difference.


Also some DSotM songs that Roger sang on, also had David singing the harmony(which may confuse some people when matching the voice to the person).[/QUOTE]

I had a ton of trouble figuring out who sang Echoes at first, until I realized it was Wright and Gilmour doing harmony.

Good morning everybody. Finished two of the AP's, so looks like I'm back for now.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]I had a ton of trouble figuring out who sang Echoes at first, until I realized it was Wright and Gilmour doing harmony.

Good morning everybody. Finished two of the AP's, so looks like I'm back for now.[/QUOTE]

Good luck with the rest. :thumb:

I still have my AP Stat and AP History tests to take.

/is avoiding studying to listen to Saucerful of Secrets

What can be really confusing about Echoes is that Dave and Rick switch parts (Rick sings the hig octaves sometimes, sometimes Gilmour does)

Hey fav song and album?

Favourite Song: In The Flesh

Favourite Album: Tie Between DSOTM and Animals

I'm officially convinced that Time has one of the most kick as[color=white]s[/color] solos ever. Just the way the "ooooh aaaah's" match the solo is amazing.

Album - Tie between A Saucerful of Secrets and Meddle
Song - Echoes.