[QUOTE=Med57]I saw The Mars Volta live 2 years ago, supporting the Chili Peppers, and I was really disappointed. [/QUOTE]

Took me a while to listen to any of their songs, as when i heard their first 'single', the time sig seemed all out, and it was a bit weird to listen to. But after hearing other snippets and televators, I was convinced there was something there to get into.

And i missed the chance to see them at Rock City. Almost every band who i've seen there have blown me away, so maybe it was fate.....

I really think they are brilliant. I actually have no income and find it difficult to buy cd's i find it annoying. If i had the money or time to get a job i would buy cd's regularly i just don't have the money atm. The UK version is out according to amazon...I got the Japanese version, i didn't touch the leak :)

Anyways i really like De-loused, Inertiac, circatraz and roulette dares are amazing songs.

The vocals are very strong the rest of the band fit around them. I think the guitar is very strange, very chromatic with lots of dischords. But it's cool.

what kinda set does the drummer for tool play?

Sonor

/awaits SFK to return and give the run down on danny's kit

Oh, and i asked one of my female friends if she had an epilady. I still have the hand mark on my face...

:confused: females aye? Another thing to add to the list of conversation no go's...shaving

that list is getting pretty weighty now.

No shaving talk.
No PMT accusing
No musical taste questioning.
No cheesy chat ups
NO MENTION OF WEIGHT

To the guys who thought they found Adam Jones/Tom Morello's Electric Sheep cd, their wrong. Me and my friend researched this a few months ago and found out that theres a band, who did release a cd, in Japan or something that goes by the the name Electric Sheep.

Unrelated to what people are talking about. I was just listening to some older Tool stuff that I havn't put on for a while and I was just thinking how cool it is to see Maynard progress through his music. I'm sure you all know what I mean.

When we first hear Maynard, back in 92' or whatever his songs are full of anger and dark feelings and seem to be a way for him to vent and take chunks out of organised religion. Undertow had the same dark feel to it, of venting off emotions of the past, catharsis if you will. Then as he progresses to understanding his emotions and releasing he choses to grow rather than to hold onto them, in Ænima and around that time, even reflected in his music by having more softer parts. With Lateralus being the latest, and he seems much more calculating and more devoid of emotion, and more spiritual, as well as being more analytical. Which was very interesting. Which makes me wonder what direction he's going to take with the next album in regards to feel and style?

In APC he's obviously taken a direct opposite approach to Lateralus, and gone with feeling and emotion over cold analysing. The emotions seeming more diverse than his Tool work though (possibly).

Personally, I think he'll keep his insightful analysing, yet go back to his more emotional roots, realising that in order to go to the next level, so to speak, you have to "realise" that you are only human. I'm personally hoping for more melody and intensity from him, as well as his usual awesome rhythm. Thoughts?

I love The Mars Volta. De-loused was simply an amazing album. As for Frances the Mute, my opinion has yet to solidify.

[QUOTE=(LOKI)]I just wanted to come hear to show off my nice new avatar:D[/QUOTE]

very pretty :thumb:

ok i have some questions. Anyone know about the new album and when it comes out? i heard about 5 months ago it was supposed to come out in early january -_- i was stoked until early january came and i hadn't heard anything new about their new album. i have heard a bit about it on tool forums and such but nothing on dates or eastimated times or themes of it so anyone know?

Check out Toolband.com theres some stuff there. And we all seem to believe it will come out July or spring.

as soon as someone knows for sure, it will be all over the place in here

new album is gunna be some slick stuff.

going back to what Shadius said I completely agree.

I did the same thing after reading that post and Opiate is loaded with hatred and "f*** you all" type of music. Undertow lightens up just a little bit, as demonstrated in Sober, even though Disgustipated annoys me to know end. Aenema is my favorite, Eulogy has got to be one of their best songs. Then we get to Lateralus. The only really known Tool cd. Schism is a little over-rated in my opinion. I do say though it is an extremely good song, a little tough on bass but im also a beginner. Reflection is becoming my favorite song of all time. Its the fact that Maynard can change so dramatically from say Opiate - Hush to something so open minded and outgoing. I think Reflection has to do with Maynard changing his attitude towards life and moving forward from Opiate and Undertow.

Just my thought :D

All I know is that they better play The Grudge, I know I'm probably overrating it, but that song is like sex.

[QUOTE=clearvision]Sonor[/QUOTE]

Sonor, Mapex, Paiste, and a couple of all-electronic kits.

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Has anybody in here ever seen Tool live? I heard they own, please share the it wih us.[/QUOTE]

Twice. And APC twice.

Words cant describe it.

[QUOTE=willis2441]what kinda set does the drummer for tool play?[/QUOTE]
[B]Sonor Designer Series(bubinga wood)[/B]
8x14 snare(bronze)
8x8 tom
10x10 tom
16x14 tom
18x16 floor tom
18x24 bass drum(2)

[B]Cymbals:[/B] Paiste
14" Sound Edge Dry crisp hi-hats
6" signature bell over 8" signature bell
10" signature splash
24" 2002 China
18" signature Full crash
#3 cup chime over #1 cup chime
18" signature power crash
12" signature Micro-hats
22" signature Dry Heavy ride
22" signature Thin china
20" signature Power crash

[B]Electronics:[/B]Simmons SDX, Korg, Roland MC-505, Oberheim TVS

[B]Pedals:[/B] Simmons hi-hat
Korg control pedal
Simmons bass drum

[B]Hardware:[/B] Sonor stands, Sonot, Axis, or Pro-mark hi-hat stand, Axis or Pearl bass drum pedals with Sonor or Pearl beaters(loose spring tension,but with long throw)

[B]Heads:[/B] Evans Power Center on snare batter(medium-high tuning, no muffling) G2's on tom batters with G1's underneath(medium tuning with bottom head tuned higher than top) EQ3 bass drum batter and EQ3 Resonant on front(meduim tuning, with EQ Pad touching front and back heads)

[B]Sticks: [/B] Trueline Danny Carey model(wood tip)

I think the changes in Tool's emotion is pretty obvious
Opiate - anger, cynicism. Most obvious in Hush and Jerk-Off.

Undertow - still angry, but slightly more mature. More expressive than just 'fark you'

Ænima - More reflective. Seems to think about the problems - Stinkfist, Jimmy, Push[i]i[/i]t are the most obvious examples where the source of problem is actually discussed. Some slightly more deep tracks - Third Eye and 46 and 2 being the more obivously philosophical tracks.

Lateralus - a very existential type album. The Grudge and Ticks and Leeches have some of their old anger, but The Grudge expresses it in a much more meaningful way, incorporating some deeper themes. Parabol/Parabola, Lateralus and Disposition/Reflection/Triad are all quite deep, dealing with experience, thoughtfulness and reflection in obvious ways. The cynicism is less overbearing, and the music expresses a more philosophical or hopeful outlook than the earlier albums.

Who knows where the new album will lead?

[QUOTE=conciousuniverse]


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Werny,

It's good to hear from you again! I'm glad you are well :) and enjoying Salival.

[/QUOTE]

I am enjoying it! Pu**** is amazing, Aloke is pure genius.

I think the next album will be experimental. On DannyCarey.Org he says they're developing new drums for the next album *gets a tingle down spine* and one toolband.com it tells us that they are working to meet their deadline so much that they worked Valentines Day! It can't be THAT far away!!!

Have HOPE!

IT WILL BE THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME!

That drum development notice has been there for a long time. I think he's probably already encorportated it in the past. But no suprise if he does spring some new sort of technology

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]That drum development notice has been there for a long time. I think he's probably already encorportated it in the past. But no suprise if he does spring some new sort of technology[/QUOTE]
Yes, that has been on the site forever. I would be suprised if he changes his kit very much, but maybe there will be a small change. His drums are amazing enough allready.

I don't know how many people check the Tool website these days to read through Blair Blakes incredible experiments with writing, but, this got posted recently, and it says what the message is in "No Quarter" on Salival. Can you work it out?

[I]22 Feb 05

MESSAGE IN "NO QUARTER" ON TOOL'S SALIVAL
"Dear Blair, I I'll try not to babble or run on, I realize you have a lot of these to read, so here goes. I have discovered a subliminal message in the song No Quarter on the Salival CD/DVD, I have had several friends listen to it, so I know I'm not just hearing things, or wishing I were. However, we all share one thing in common: none of us can discern what it is that Maynard is saying. I was wondering if you would do me a considerable kindness and either a. Tell me what it says, or b. tell me where I can find out and how."

THE REPLY:

Just in case there's somebody living in a cave who doesn't know about this, lots of people have attempted to isolate the so-called subliminal message (whispered by MJK while in the recording studio and not in his well-stocked wine celler) via high tech audio equipment, and some have posted their findings on the internet. Although I've yet to read a single posting that contains the correct answer, there's always a chance that someone has discerned the actual message, and that I've missed his/her posting. However, since I have received hundreds of emails over the years asking about the message, I am happy to address this issue. First of all, my advice to anyone interested or obsessing over this matter is that I wouldn't waste too much time trying to figure it out. That's because the message is NOW totally irrelevant. Secondly, in my reply here, I have given the answer as to what is being said, albeit somewhat cryptically - but it's all right here in these very words. But, like I said, it's now irrelevant, so let's move on, shall we. [/I]

And i thought i over-complicated things...:confused:

They saw that the new album is supposed to come out sometime in April-July so I hope it comes out really soon.

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Twice. And APC twice.

Words cant describe it.[/QUOTE]

Ive seen them once in cincinatti ( ohio ). They are very awesome espically the lights. Maynard does these freaky movement things other then that the vibe is awesome.

I don't have the time to read all the page's, so I'm not sure if anyone has metioned this already, but I think that the band is anti religious because of alot of their songs.
For example, in the song eulogy, maynard's lyrics read,

Get off your ****ing cross,
we need the ****ing space
to nail the next fool martyr

(A martyr is someone who dies for what they strongly believe in, for people who don't know) I think this song IS about jesus, he calls jesus a fool so that is one reason why I think tool are anti religious.
There are alot more songs with anti religious. If you have watched the parabola video you would notice that at the end that the weird dude (i dont really understand any of all there videos) gets a third eye, which is a sign as if to say he doesnt need god to help him see the truth. In the song third eye, at the end it states:

''Prying open my thrid eye"

over and over. I do really like their songs, but their lyrics im a bit touchy on...(because i am a christian)
Maynard is very smart I must admit.
All in all, tool is a very good band, but their videos take some getting use to.

I dont think there anti christian but more anti thinking like the rest. They probably see religion (all orginized religion) as a form of control. To keep us from thinking too much for our selves.

Anyone know the band Dead Soul Tribe? They also make some kind of prog metal/rock music.

I doubt tools anti-religious themes. Eulogy is a bit blunt, but besides the...

we need the f**cking space
to nail the next fool martyr!

it is a truthful song, example are the lyrics directly after...

to ascend you must die
you must be crucified
for our sins and our lies
goodbye!

I know this may sound corny, but that is true and what happened. And Third Eye isnt just about being opened to god (the beginning is a bit...different lol) I think it resembles Reflection, being awakened to the outside world and not just living in a bubble. Someone had to "pry open" his eyes to see the truth.

[QUOTE=LunaticCalm]I think it resembles Reflection, being awakened to the outside world and not just living in a bubble. Someone had to "pry open" his eyes to see the truth.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the exact same thing. It's almost a cry of rebellion (it isn't, but almost) at the end of Third Eye. It's like someone has been hiding the truth from him and he needs to pry open his extra eye to see the truth.