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KKKKKocaine 04-24-2005 04:00 AM

[QUOTE=moaner][url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23784&item=7317277579&rd=1[/url]

how many Ls in "[B]illegal[/B]"?[/QUOTE]

Three.
And you can tell he's used a cd labeller on the cd as the label is slightly smaller than a commercially produced cd.

moaner 04-24-2005 07:21 AM

how effective would a battery condenser shotgun mic like the audio technica ATR25 be as an overhead, or for mic'ing an acoustic etc? Is it basically just a back electret that comes with adapters for minidisc and camcorders?

ATR25 SHOTGUN MIC

Audio-Technica ATR25 Stereo Microphone|. A unidirectional stereo condenser microphone complete with Mic Adaptor and battery. Comes with cables to let you connect to either Jack inputs (on a mixer) or Stereo mini jack (to connect to a soundcard, MiniDisk or Camcorder). Superb Audio-Technica quality.

airborne50caliber 04-24-2005 08:58 AM

shotgun for overhead?

moaner 04-24-2005 09:17 AM

[QUOTE=airborne50caliber]shotgun for overhead?[/QUOTE]

well, it could've worked.. :upset:

airborne50caliber 04-24-2005 11:18 AM

nono, ive just never seen it used like that..

moaner 04-24-2005 11:52 AM

well, it'd probably be too unidirectional.

airborne50caliber 04-24-2005 12:46 PM

maybe for close-miking cymbals

Aes820 04-25-2005 03:57 AM

I had my house warming party on friday night.
She was a wild night.
I've got photos of me getting around wearing this god-awful blonde wig.

moaner 04-25-2005 03:59 AM

[QUOTE=Aes820]I had my house warming party on friday night.
She was a wild night.
I've got photos of me getting around wearing this god-awful blonde wig.[/QUOTE]

this i [I]have [/I] to see.

gaslight 04-25-2005 04:01 AM

Then you find out that its not a wig, and you got hair implants.

:eek:

Then you trim it into a sensible mullet.

Aes820 04-25-2005 04:09 AM

[QUOTE=moaner]this i [I]have [/I] to see.[/QUOTE]
The photos are still on the camera, which I haven't got at the moment.
Maybe.. I'll post them. If you're lucky.

ElKapitan 04-25-2005 04:30 AM

ello
pretty new to this end of MX forums, i normally just stick to the bass forum but i though u lot might be able to help me out with recordings and the like
from what i've read of the threads so far, most of u know what ur talking about so hopefully i can find inspiration and what not
anywho, i was basically just saying hi

airborne50caliber 04-25-2005 08:21 AM

hi..!

moaner 04-25-2005 09:10 AM

hello.

you sound friendly.

Nightvision 04-25-2005 09:20 AM

To be honest, this is probably the best forum with regard to newbies - there's very little flaming goes on here. (or at least that I notice)

(wasn't calling Kapitan a n00b, simply praising this forum!)

moaner 04-25-2005 09:39 AM

[QUOTE=Jason101]To be honest, this is probably the best forum with regard to newbies - there's very little flaming goes on here. (or at least that I notice)

(wasn't calling Kapitan a n00b, simply praising this forum!)[/QUOTE]

I think thats do do with the fact that n00bs that come here encounter only helpful posting and friendly users, and reflect this in their attitude. they go into the pit, get flamed for talking, think they'll try it themselves, suck at it, and argue with everyone.

ElKapitan 04-25-2005 11:54 AM

i must admit, this does seem to be th friendliest of the forums. the bass one is too but i stear WELL clear of the guitar forum just cos they all seem so elitist. if u cant shred like a demon they don't wanna know

moaner 04-25-2005 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=ElKapitan]i must admit, this does seem to be th friendliest of the forums. the bass one is too but i stear WELL clear of the guitar forum just cos they all seem so elitist. if u cant shred like a demon they don't wanna know[/QUOTE]

too right. i used to be a very active GF user, but to be honest 95% of them are utter tosspots.

airborne50caliber 04-25-2005 12:53 PM

for your info, newb is someone new to something, a n00b is someone who thinks they know what they're doing but they don't. Two different meanings> :chug:

Aes820 04-25-2005 04:33 PM

When I first started coming to the Jam Session. It was very quiet. Not many regular posters. And even week old (or more) threads on the first page.
It seemed 'sterile'
Over the last year or so, there has definately been some life breathed into it.

cgecko1219 04-25-2005 04:50 PM

Probably because there have been a couple new regular posters who are really knowledgeable...such as Airborne (havent really seen him around much until a few months ago), acrowleftofthemurder and austin99

Aes820 04-25-2005 08:08 PM

So.. Does anyone have as much trouble counting tied-triplets as what i do..?
Trea... any help here, please?

airborne50caliber 04-25-2005 11:35 PM

I got bored of drums & percussion and came here. But I think I ask more questions than I answer anyway :lol:

Trigger_003 04-26-2005 12:27 AM

[QUOTE=Aes820]So.. Does anyone have as much trouble counting tied-triplets as what i do..?
Trea... any help here, please?[/QUOTE]
Do you understand how to count triplets and can you play them already (not tied, just simply as triplets)?
If so, all you have to do is count/play the tied triplets as if they were meant to be played seperately - at first that is. Once you've got the particular section you're having trouble with down by playing the triplets as seperated ones, gradually start to play them as tied ones. Remember to take it slowly and only speed it up once you've got the hang of it.

If you don't know much about triplets at all, have a look at (in case you haven't seen it already) [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318711[/url] - the last post on that first page. It's not that indepth but I'm hoping that'll clear some things up.

If that doesn't help, let me know :thumb:.

moaner 04-26-2005 03:11 PM

my overdrive pedal prject is now off to a fairly good start, except that some of the caps i bought were diesgned for PCBs.

i might just et away with it, but they have hella short legs.

ElKapitan 04-26-2005 03:14 PM

^how hard is it to wire pedals and the such?
i've seen guides and the such on the web and am quite tempted but i'm a little daunted by all the technical diagrams and talk of capacitors and different calculations
i'm really quite simple u see

moaner 04-26-2005 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=ElKapitan]^how hard is it to wire pedals and the such?
i've seen guides and the such on the web and am quite tempted but i'm a little daunted by all the technical diagrams and talk of capacitors and different calculations
i'm really quite simple u see[/QUOTE]

you can make things you see on the net without doing calculations.

its not a hobby for the impatient, and certaintly not something to do with the intention of saving money, but its as hard as you make it.

for an easy rpject, try a headphone amplifier, or mixer.

[url]http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Audio/6ipmix.htm[/url]


[url]http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/Audio/headphone.htm[/url]

ElKapitan 04-26-2005 03:45 PM

cheers, ill give it a go after all my exams and coursework's due

moaner 04-26-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=ElKapitan]cheers, ill give it a go after all my exams and coursework's due[/QUOTE]

/did it before :upset:

my courseworks all done tho.

ElKapitan 04-26-2005 03:55 PM

mine's due on Mon :(
and then i've got an exam on Renaissance literature the following monday :upset:
but then i'm finished for the year :D

Aes820 04-26-2005 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=Trigger_003]Do you understand how to count triplets and can you play them already (not tied, just simply as triplets)?
If so, all you have to do is count/play the tied triplets as if they were meant to be played seperately - at first that is. Once you've got the particular section you're having trouble with down by playing the triplets as seperated ones, gradually start to play them as tied ones. Remember to take it slowly and only speed it up once you've got the hang of it.

If you don't know much about triplets at all, have a look at (in case you haven't seen it already) [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318711[/url] - the last post on that first page. It's not that indepth but I'm hoping that'll clear some things up.

If that doesn't help, let me know :thumb:.[/QUOTE]

Alright. This is where I am at. Tell me what you think.
And correct me if im wrong on any spots.

My old guitar teacher used to give me those excersized, where'd you'd just play chromatics over the metronome click. Playing 4 beats of whole notes, then 4 of quarters, 4 of triplets, etc.
Just to practise changing in and out of differnt timings with accuracy.
I coped with triplets alright, as I would just count them and play them like:

[B]Tri[/B] - pel - it. [B]Tri[/B] - Pel - it.

With each metronome click falling on the bolded note.

As I knew it, It was like playing three notes in one metronome click.
Now, tied triplets mean playing three notes in two metronome clicks (right?). And I just had troubles trying to time it correctly.

So this is how I'm thinking they should be counted, now after reading your explaination:

[B][u]Tri[/u][/B] - pel - [u]it[/u] - [B]Tri[/B] - [u]pel[/u] - it

As the metronome click falls on the bolded word.
And as i play a note on the underlined word.

Does that sound right? Or have I just confused myself even more?

Trigger_003 04-27-2005 02:48 AM

[QUOTE=Aes820]As I knew it, It was like playing three notes in one metronome click.[/QUOTE]
Provided that you are playing quaver triplets, yep.

[QUOTE=Aes820]Now, tied triplets mean playing three notes in two metronome clicks (right?)...
So this is how I'm thinking they should be counted, now after reading your explaination:

[B][u]Tri[/u][/B] - pel - [u]it[/u] - [B]Tri[/B] - [u]pel[/u] - it

As the metronome click falls on the bolded word.
And as i play a note on the underlined word..[/QUOTE]
Sounds right to me (as long as there are only two triplets tied together each time). :thumb:

By the way, a pair of quavers tied together is equivalent to a crotchet. So instead of taking the approach of thinking of two sets of tied quaver triplets as, well, just that, you could think of them as one set of crotchet triplets (three notes played in the space of a minim).

i.e. you'd just have to say "[B]Tri[/B] - pel - it" across two clicks,
instead of "[B][u]Tri[/u][/B] - pel - [u]it[/u] - [B]Tri[/B] - [u]pel[/u] - it" in the same amount of time.

I thought I may as well have pointed that out in case it helps :).

moaner 04-27-2005 09:52 AM

/me singes hair whilst osldering

/me is followed around by a bad smell :upset:

Aes820 04-27-2005 04:50 PM

[QUOTE=Trigger_003]
By the way, a pair of quavers tied together is equivalent to a crotchet. So instead of taking the approach of thinking of two sets of tied quaver triplets as, well, just that, you could think of them as one set of crotchet triplets (three notes played in the space of a minim).[/QUOTE]
I don't know what that means. :upset: :)
[QUOTE]
i.e. you'd just have to say "[B]Tri[/B] - pel - it" across two clicks,
instead of "[B][u]Tri[/u][/B] - pel - [u]it[/u] - [B]Tri[/B] - [u]pel[/u] - it" in the same amount of time.

I thought I may as well have pointed that out in case it helps :).[/QUOTE]
Of course it helps.

I am aware that you have to say it just as: "[B]Tri[/B] - pel - it" across two clicks. But i just have real troubles timing it right. Hearing the click of the metronome would put me right off my counting.
That was the original problems I was having. As I would always fall back into playing them as half-notes.

If I think of it as the latter example, I can keep counting it as two lots of individual triplets, but I only play the note at the correct time.

I gave it a bit of a practise last night. And at least I'm a little bit closer to getting it than i was the day before. But I'm still having troubles.
I've been practising trying to clap it out. And I'll definately keep at it.
Thanks for your help.

the_uber_penguin 04-28-2005 01:39 PM

I learnt to count 1-trip-let 2-trip-let etc...it keeps the numbers in there.

I never got the knack of counting semiquaver triplets, though.

Nightvision 04-28-2005 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=moaner]/me singes hair whilst osldering

/me is followed around by a bad smell :upset:[/QUOTE]

that's why you shouldn't solder your glasses while they're still on your face... :lol:

moaner 04-28-2005 03:22 PM

[QUOTE=Jason101]that's why you shouldn't solder your glasses while they're still on your face... :lol:[/QUOTE]

no, thats because you'll end up soldering them to your face.

this is hwy i should tie my hair back.

I've resigned myself to the fact i'll have to use some single core wire :upset: i hate it because i always break it.

Trigger_003 04-29-2005 01:59 AM

Chris: Sorry about that not being a good explaination. It was just me saying why you can count the tied triplets as "Tri - pel - it" across two clicks instead of "Tri - pel - it - Tri - pel - it". But I can tell from what you said in your last post that you already know what I was trying to explain (regardless of whether or not you actually understood what I was saying), so I won't go into it.

The clapping is a good way to do it, but I think I've got something better. This is probably one of the best things I can think of to help you get these down:
If you have the program Powertab ([url]http://www.power-tab.net[/url] - or something similar to it), tab out a long set of tied triplets and play them along with the program. Have the bpm set to a slow tempo at first.

Gradually start adding some half-notes (minims), quarter-notes (crotchets), etc. in. Something like minim, tied triplets, crotchet, tied triplets, quaver, semiquaver, semiquaver, tied triplets... *shrug* whatever suits.

When you are a bit more confident with playing them in those two ways, start to vary the pitch of the notes.

Give it a go if that sounds good to you and let me know how it goes :).

Uber Penguin: If you want, you could try counting semiquaver triplets as something along the lines of 1-trip-let and-trip-let, 2-trip-let and-trip-let. That's a bit of a crazy pattern to try and say while you're going fast... but hey, it may help.

ElKapitan 04-29-2005 02:53 AM

what wire should you use for a new pickup? i'm going to install an EMG 60 in the neck (obviously) and I wanted to do it myself. is there anything specific i need? i've got a soldering iron, some conducting solder and wanted to know if theres anything i need to know before i start and possibly ruin a £90 p/u?

cheers :thumb:

gaslight 04-29-2005 03:56 AM

[QUOTE=moaner]/me singes hair whilst osldering

/me is followed around by a bad smell :upset:[/QUOTE]

Sometimes my hair goes in my cereal/meal.

Or I think I've got it clear to my mouth, then when I bite it, I bite hair too.

*Nods.*


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